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Old 04-17-2009, 04:43 PM   #1
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Default Boss Bailey's position in the 3-4

I've read in some corners that Boss Bailey is projected as a starting inside linebacker -- alongside Andra Davis -- in the new 3-4 defense.

My question is Boss has played OLB throughout his NFL career, and for those 3-4 experts out there, how does he fit into the 3-4 as a ILB, given he's at that position and not at OLB.
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Whatever position is closest to the bench...
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:50 PM   #4
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I think he will probably play Untradeable Contract.
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I doubt there's a single 220-pound OLB in a 3-4 anywhere in the NFL.

Or 230 pounds for that matter.
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i dont believe he's as good as his Big Bro by no means other than they both seem to have a tendency to be injured alot...
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I doubt there's a single 220-pound OLB in a 3-4 anywhere in the NFL.

Or 230 pounds for that matter.
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i dont believe he's as good as his Big Bro by no means other than they both seem to have a tendency to be injured alot...
Champ has missed like 12 games in his entire career. he is far from injury prone.
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Champ has missed like 12 games in his entire career. he is far from injury prone.
sry i missed worded it. i meant to put it in there stay at the same team
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Old 04-17-2009, 09:42 PM   #18
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No 2 ways about neither Boss Bailey or Woodyard project well to a 3-4 in terms of the size you look for at LB.

Bailey just not near physical enough to play inside in a 3-4. DJ Williams not really either.

If Broncos are going 3-4 they will drafting some bigger more physical inside guys.
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How long have you been watching football man?



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Woodyard is bigger than people think ... same height and just 10 pounds lighter than Al Wilson (230 vs. 240).

I compare him to Wilson because he honestly does remind me of him ... great speed, great lateral pursuit, with a single-minded tunnel vision for tackling the ball-carrier. We gotta get him on the field somehow.
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Woodyard is bigger than people think ... same height and just 10 pounds lighter than Al Wilson (230 vs. 240).

I compare him to Wilson because he honestly does remind me of him ... great speed, great lateral pursuit, with a single-minded tunnel vision for tackling the ball-carrier. We gotta get him on the field somehow.
IMO though Al Wilson was best in a 4-3 defense. Honestly 230 isn't big by linebacker standards, for 3-4 it almost doesn't happen, but sometimes a guy just plays bigger then his size.

Maybe Woodyard can do it but no way he can play outside in a 3-4 at the jack spot. How does a 230 pounder take on OT?

I think Broncos will use woodyard in the 4-3 looks, and in short yrdage in the 3-4 as a fs in the box.
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Cut is right.

3-4 LBs by nature need to be big, hard-hitting mother****ers. Just the polar opposite of Boss Bailey. He's absolutely in no way suited for our scheme. I have no idea what we'll do with him. Cutting him outright would cost too much and potentially cause bad blood. But, he's got no business in a 3-4. He plays small, isn't a great tackler and is about as non-physical as you'll find in an OLB.

This was one of Shanahan's bigger recent ****-ups.
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Woodyard is bigger than people think ... same height and just 10 pounds lighter than Al Wilson (230 vs. 240).

I compare him to Wilson because he honestly does remind me of him ... great speed, great lateral pursuit, with a single-minded tunnel vision for tackling the ball-carrier. We gotta get him on the field somehow.
I do imagine we'll see SOME 4-3 alignments from time to time. A hybrid defense has been hinted around at by the staff.

I agree. Woodyard is 100% football player.

He, Larson and Hillis are absolutely guys you have to get out there on the field, somehow.
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Cut is right.

3-4 LBs by nature need to be big, hard-hitting mother****ers. Just the polar opposite of Boss Bailey. He's absolutely in no way suited for our scheme. I have no idea what we'll do with him. Cutting him outright would cost too much and potentially cause bad blood. But, he's got no business in a 3-4. He plays small, isn't a great tackler and is about as non-physical as you'll find in an OLB.

This was one of Shanahan's bigger recent ****-ups.
exactly which is why I say maybe Woodyard will play bigger then his size and find a role in a 3-4. Boss Bailey IMO lacks the size or style needed for any spot in a 3-4. DJ Williams IMO would have a better shot at making that transition.

Larsen has the size maybe, but is he a good enough football player?

Woodyard, Larsen? Maybe we will see. Boss Bailey, wow I don't see it.

IMO we won't be playing a base 3-4, it will be 4-3 with 3-4 looks on passing downs. Maybe when it goes 3-4 its not the classic 3-4 people thinking.

Broncos may move towards that who knows.

That Gilbert from San Jose State at Dend would be nice for a 3-4 at end. Until we have bigger ends how do we play a 3-4? Until we have bigger inside backers how do we play a 3-4?
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