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Old 04-16-2009, 12:01 AM   #1
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Mayock: Broncos need to select USC's Sanchez

NFL draft guru Mike Mayock is convinced the Broncos have only one choice in the first round of the April 25-26 draft.

"If they don't try to get Mark Sanchez, I think they're crazy," Mayock said Wednesday in a national conference call with reporters. "The bottom line to me is if their head coach goes 4-12 with Kyle Orton, he probably gets fired this year. If he goes 4-12 with Mark Sanchez, he's rebuilding."

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Old 04-16-2009, 12:02 AM   #2
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I posted this in the draft forum a bit ago....you can delete it if you want.

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Old 04-16-2009, 12:04 AM   #3
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If Sanchez fell into our laps, I would think Denver would have to consider drafting him....but I don't want to trade up to take him.

I don't think he makes it past SF at 10.

I can't believe we are looking for a franchise QB again....a few months ago, I thought we were set for the next 12 years.
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I would be really disappointed if we packaged our picks to move up to select a quarterback after this whole ordeal. It seems like such a desperate thing to do after we traded Jay to Chicago, taking a lesser deal because Orton was tied to it.

I suppose at this point, nothing would suprise me.
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I think Orton's a better QB than Mayock thinks.
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Who needs Sanchez? We have Kyle Orton, the next Tom Brady...
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I wouldn't rule out the possibility of McD doing a move up for him. Is Orton in last year of his contract?
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I think Orton's a better QB than Mayock thinks.
I think a lot of people have bought into the Kyle Orton propaganda.
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I think a lot of people have bought into the Kyle Orton propaganda.
He wasn't bad last year. They watched the Falcons game and saw he made some clutch throws with no wideouts, a very poor line and an unimaginative offensive coordinator. I'm not going to declare him god's gift to the NFL, but he's better than the people whining about Cutler care to acknowledge.
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I agree with Mayock. Sanchez is a hell of a young QB, fits the system, and from all indications does not appear to be a mopey primadonna pansy.

If the price is #12 and a 3rd rounder... do it. Plenty of other picks to help the D. I'm just not sold on Orton being the long-term answer.
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I think a lot of people have bought into the Kyle Orton propaganda.

I have mixed feelings about Orton. I see Orton as, well... what he is: Griese's disciple. I think that he's the type who will be as good as the rest of your offense is. For that matter, I think we have a pretty good offense, which is the source of my mixed feelings on Orton.

But even if Orton is a solution, we are minus a runningback threat who can go the distance on any given play. I think Orton is going to give us the same sort of offense that Griese gave us: one that defenses love to throw pressure at and force us to beat them with the quarterback. Like Griese, I don't think Orton has the juice to make a defense pay for testing him, and I'm not convinced that our running game has the personnel there to take the heat off of Orton and open up the passing lanes.

I think we need a home run threat at runningback out of this draft.
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There is no way we trade up for Sanchez. At that point all you're doing is essentially trading Cutler for Sanchez, and McD is smarter than that...at least I hope he is.

I've been a McD supporter in this whole fiasco, but if he drafts Sanchez, even at #12, I'm done.

If we're all about the 'Patriot way' these days, than McD trades back from #12 and we get more depth in this year's draft and then potentially another first rounder for next years draft. I'm all about that.
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Yes, Orton is a FA in 10...


I'll bet anyone that denver won't win more than 6 next year.
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There is no way we trade up for Sanchez. At that point all you're doing is essentially trading Cutler for Sanchez, and McD is smarter than that...at least I hope he is.

I've been a McD supporter in this whole fiasco, but if he drafts Sanchez, even at #12, I'm done.

If we're all about the 'Patriot way' these days, than McD trades back from #12 and we get more depth in this year's draft and then potentially another first rounder for next years draft. I'm all about that.
If Sanchez is at 12 Denver would have to consider it. If they take him at 12 it really isn't part of the Cutler trade. Having said, that I'd prefer trading down and stockpile more day 1 picks and bolster all areas of D.
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I agree with Mayock. Sanchez is a hell of a young QB, fits the system, and from all indications does not appear to be a mopey primadonna pansy.

If the price is #12 and a 3rd rounder... do it. Plenty of other picks to help the D. I'm just not sold on Orton being the long-term answer.
Dirty Sanchez and stafford have bust all over them.

Colt and Bradford are real, but Mcdummy won't draft either.

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Yes, Orton is a FA in 10...


I'll bet anyone that denver won't win more than 6 next year.
I'm expecting 6-10 unless our D magically gets alot better overnight.
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If Sanchez is at 12 Denver would have to consider it. If they take him at 12 it really isn't part of the Cutler trade. Having said, that I'd prefer trading down and stockpile more day 1 picks and bolster all areas of D.
WTF?

You ditch the QB, HOPE that Sanchez is there, BTW, he is a 1 year starter,

If you do that, your left with an unproven rookie and a low second rounder, which is the value of a low 1st in a lockout uncapped year.

Denver ****ed itself.
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Wow ... Mike Mayock said that?

He's the #1 expert in my book, he's almost always right. He was right that the Cutler trade was foolish. I've been totally against Sanchez, but I'd have to defer to Mayock ... he is correct that Sanchez would likely buy Josh more time to field a winner, but Sanchez is a junior, and the Matt Leinart result scares me.

I'm still against it, our defense sucks too much. But Mayock's opinion deserves great deference.
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And the binge drinking continues... great birthday bender there Mock
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Buff...a Junior with one full year as a starter in the Pac-10. He's a project.
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Sanchez is to risky. He doesn't have big time measurables. He's a USC guy who was surrounded by talent, so he might be a system QB. If we have a chance to get Bradford by stockpiling picks we ought to do it that way.
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Can't help myself ... the #1 pre-eminent NFL commentator says:

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Mayock was critical of the Broncos' decision to trade Cutler last month ... "The way I look at this is there's only six or seven franchise quarterbacks in this league," Mayock said. "Getting rid of one of them, I don't understand the whole thing."
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I have mixed feelings about Orton. I see Orton as, well... what he is: Griese's disciple. I think that he's the type who will be as good as the rest of your offense is. For that matter, I think we have a pretty good offense, which is the source of my mixed feelings on Orton.

But even if Orton is a solution, we are minus a runningback threat who can go the distance on any given play. I think Orton is going to give us the same sort of offense that Griese gave us: one that defenses love to throw pressure at and force us to beat them with the quarterback. Like Griese, I don't think Orton has the juice to make a defense pay for testing him, and I'm not convinced that our running game has the personnel there to take the heat off of Orton and open up the passing lanes.

I think we need a home run threat at runningback out of this draft.
One thing few people in here understand is that Jay Cutler's arm and mobility was huge in helping our running game generate production with 7 nobodies. Teams feared his big play capability so they sacrificed stopping the run to deal with him. Anybody who thinks Orton will get that respect is nuts. Even if we go heavy on defense, rookies rarely contribute that much, so this D will suck eggs once again. Cutler had a shot at keeping up with the pinball game...Orton...won't. Even if we do have a better defense, if we can't consistently move the ball and keep other teams offensive units off the field it won't matter. Unless we have a a very dominant running game...I don't see this team hitting going better than 6-8.
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"The bottom line to me is if their head coach goes 4-12 with Kyle Orton, he probably gets fired this year.
Does anyone really think Bowlen is going to have potentially three HCs on the payroll?

Shanny at millions per year, McDaniels at a couple mill, the next HC...I don't. Even if McDaniels goes 2-14 with Orton, I don't see him getting fired.
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If we take Sanchez (or any QB in the first at all) that essentially means that we traded Cutler for Sanchez. No thanks. And if theyre going to take Sanchez, that was wasted swap value since Orton was one of the things the trade hinged on (it was reported McDaniels liked Orton more than, say, Campbell).
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