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Old 04-13-2009, 12:54 PM   #1
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Until McD has coached a real game and completed an entire season as Head Coach he’s fair game to be second guessed, especially when it comes to the Cutler trade. I love the homers who just want to go bury this thing and go on blindly supporting him like the guy has earned it. He hasn’t.

Granted, he did come from a successful team (As an “Assistant Coach” not as a Head Coach) that had a nice 2 year run but to say on that basis alone he automatically should have a free pass to act like a King Koach without questioning his first big move is ridiculous and stupid.

Cassel had nothing, absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain when Brady went down last year. From a psychological point of view Cassel knew that it was just going to be a temp job and not a life time honorarium. He also knew that expectations would be low to lower than low so the pressure he felt was almost zero not to mention playing in a division (AFC East) that was crap to crappier last year IMO.

Given that and the fact that he had a talented team around him with maybe the best defensive mind at Head Coach as back ups I just don’t see the Cassel/McD duo as some awe inspiring reason to believe he could repeat that success with a far less talented team in Denver.

Cassel will go down in flames early in KC; he has no more or no less talent than Orton or even Simms. That’s the point here; talented QB’s don’t grow on trees. Since having any success at QB in the NFL is rare, even if you’re a scrub QB in a temp job, you can count on becoming the new flavor of the month come free agent signing time. Cassel’s laughing all the way to the bank and the Chiefs fans will soon be crying because Cassel will get put through a meat grinder in KC and be done sooner rather than later.

For my money even with Cutler’s problems and for the reasons I just explained it’s insane to think we’ll be better off without him. Sure Orton is on the train, what the hell choice does he have, he’s a bum who maybe one season removed from the NFL. Of course he’s on board for God’s sakes he’s going to get another paycheck to either play or not play QB is year.

Until McD has a winning season and at least one playoff win I’ll never believe he was a better choice for Head Coach over Steve Spagnola or another defensive coach. We needed a defensive coach not a wet behind the ears punk that thinks he can act like his mentor and kiss off the most valuable player on the team.

I know some of you will say, “Let it go it’s over, move on” whatever but until McD puts up some wins and has some success it’s perfectly acceptable to be skeptical and cynical about his chances until he does. I’m still furious about this thing and as a Diehard Fan I have every right to talk about this until Kingdom Come if I want too. If he can’t take the heat let him go coach a Pop Warner team in Iowa.

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Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

is it okay if I go take a leak now? Figured I'd better ask your opinion before I do anything.
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Old 04-13-2009, 12:57 PM   #4
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Wow enlightening. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I had to pull myself away from a best of craigslist post.
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That's what I was thinking...mojoke is two weeks late to the party.

I don't like what McDaniels has done lately, but we've already discussed this to death. Let's see what they do for the draft and then move on to TC.
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Posters who's ego is so huge they think we give a crap about their little essays when it has been discussed to death should be shot.
What's wrong with expressing myself on this even if it has been discussed to death?
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Nothing-We are just expressing ourselves about your self expression. This deserves it's own emiticon.
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no, coaches should be second guessed after we see the results they put on the field. not before. now go home.
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Old 04-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #11
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This should be discussed to death, it's the biggest story of the offseason. The Broncos are in the dumpster right now and until they play a game, win a game, have .500 plus season and best of all a playoff win McD deserves to be kicked in the ass until he does or gets fired.
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This is the obsessive guy that is probably still stalking Popps, no?
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Listen. The reason Mcdaniels gets more respect from people in football, then from you, is because those people know football, and all you know it results.

As fans we say hey that dude got 10 sacks, he's a good player, but people who play football, coach football, may know well he doesn't beat people one on one, he gets 10 sacks because the defense is good. While in another city a player has 3 sacks and we as fans say that is not good. But football players and coaches may say that dude can beat you one on one, hes a good player, but he gets no sacks because the rest of the dline stinks and he gets doubled all day.

Every player and coach, that talks to Mcdaniels says same thing about him. This young man really knows a lot about football, is innovative, and is a really good play caller.

As fans we will wait for results, but IMO it's obvious that the people who know more about football then we do seem to think Mcdaniels is a pretty smart man. I watched pats football last 3 yrs and the play calling was crisp, smart, and deadly.

He's our coach, i like him, I'm behind him, and I have no doubt really that he will do well in Denver. Superbowls? well those are hard to win but we will see. A lot of good coaches coach for a lot of yrs before they win a Superbowl but I think Mcdaniles will have Broncos winning more then they lose within 2 seasons, and be in playoffs winning games within 3.

Who knows maybe even sooner.
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Yeah that's him.

We made fun of Mojoke a year or so ago...it was epically funny.
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Listen. The reason Mcdaniels gets more respect from people in football, then from you, is because those people know football, and all you know it results.

As fans we say hey that dude got 10 sacks, he's a good player, but people who play football, coach football, may know well he doesn't beat people one on one, he gets 10 sacks because the defense is good. While in another city a player has 3 sacks and we as fans say that is not good. But football players and coaches may say that dude can beat you one on one, hes a good player, but he gets no sacks because the rest of the dline stinks and he gets doubled all day.

Every player and coach, that talks to Mcdaniels says same thing about him. This young man really knows a lot about football, is innovative, and is a really good play caller.

As fans we will wait for results, but IMO it's obvious that the people who know more about football then we do seem to think Mcdaniels is a pretty smart man. I watched pats football last 3 yrs and the play calling was crisp, smart, and deadly.

He's our coach, i like him, I'm behind him, and I have no doubt really that he will do well in Denver. Superbowls? well those are hard to win but we will see. A lot of good coaches coach for a lot of yrs before they win a Superbowl but I think Mcdaniles will have Broncos winning more then they lose within 2 seasons, and be in playoffs winning games within 3.

Who knows maybe even sooner.
I guess I am to results oriented, on the surface as a Coach what he has done in his short career seems constructive and measurable. Still, I question at least for now his experience in handling player personnel, that should be in question and so should his honesty.

He may be the next big thing but without that, without the respect of the team and the fans how can we really believe him? I like any fan want him to succeed but hes off to horrible start and this Cutler thing wasnt a way to inspire any confidence that he knows what hes doing as a head coach.
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This is the kind of post I needed to show me the light and how to think towards my team. Now go jump off a bridge.
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We made fun of Mojoke a year or so ago...it was epically funny.
This place needs some Mojoe. You know it.
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I guess I am to results oriented, on the surface as a Coach what he has done in his short career seems constructive and measurable. Still, I question at least for now his experience in handling player personnel, that should be in question and so should his honesty.

He may be the next big thing but without that, without the respect of the team and the fans how can we really believe him? I like any fan want him to succeed but hes off to horrible start and this Cutler thing wasnt a way to inspire any confidence that he knows what hes doing as a head coach.
What results are you talking about with Jay Cutler then His ZERO playoff appearances, His sub .500 winning percentage? His maturity issues?
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As fans we will wait for results, but IMO it's obvious that the people who know more about football then we do seem to think Mcdaniels is a pretty smart man. I watched pats football last 3 yrs and the play calling was crisp, smart, and deadly.
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Until he got to the SB and was outcoached.
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Thanks Man, this time around, I'm gonna do my best to ignore all the haters. I love the Broncos as much as anyone here, so hate me or love me I don't care. I know I'll get attacked everytime I say something by the same haters whether it's good or bad I just have to deal with it better.
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