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Old 04-10-2009, 04:20 AM   #1
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After some long hard reflection, I get the feeling that QB Josh Freeman is going to be the pick at #12, for the following reasons:

1) Before the Jay Cutler trade, we all would have placed Kyle Orton somewhere between #20 - #30 in NFL quarterback rankings (even lower if you consider that there are several backups around the league that are better than him). Even Chicago kept trying to replace him with other QBs on the roster, before finally packaging him as a throw-in with two #1s and a #3 pick. He's not a franchise QB, and never will be -- as much as I wish it could be possible.

2) Also, Orton will be a free agent at the end of the 2009 season.

3) On the other hand, Orton does look like a nice, safe caretaker QB who can protect the ball and win 8-10 games while you develop your real #1.

4) The Broncos are picking at #12 -- when you're picking that high, and you need a QB, you usually take one. In addition, the #12 looks like a great position to pick either Sanchez (if he falls to this slot) or Freeman (who will almost definitely be there).

5) However, Sanchez is projected to go to either Seattle at #4, Jacksonville at #8, or San Francisco at #10. Odds are he'll be gone by our pick.

6) At the USC pro day, 30 teams were in attendance. The only two that weren't? Denver and Houston. The only reason we wouldn't have sent a representative (especially in light of all the DEFENSIVE talent at USC) would be to set up a ruse -- i.e., we're very interested in Sanchez, and therefore not attending this huge pro day to throw people off our trail.

7) However, this ruse seems a bit too obvious, doesn't it? Seems to me that the Broncos are trying to make it seem like we're taking Sanchez, so that another team will trade in front of us to take him -- meaning that Freeman will be there when we finally pick.

8) In fact, I think that many teams around the league are higher on Freeman than we realize -- the lack of "buzz" is curious for someone who comes from a large program, has prototypical physical attributes, and great stats.

9. Finally, the drop-off in talent from Freeman to the next QB is amazing -- the next one is projected to go in the 4th round. If we don't get Freeman, there really is no one left on the board.

Whaddaya think? Anyone else want to join me on the Freeman bandwagon?
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:28 AM   #2
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:31 AM   #3
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Old 04-10-2009, 04:33 AM   #4
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McDaniels could have taken a higher draft pick from Washington. He obviously thought highly of Kyle Orton.

We won't take a QB no earlier than the 3rd round.

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Old 04-10-2009, 04:42 AM   #5
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I could see using 18 pick on freeman but not the 12 pick. Freeman needs a couple of years to learn how to play Qb . Freeman has all the physical tools but needs to work on mental part of the game. The money at 18 spot would be also better for someone to hold a clip board for 2 years.
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I could see using 18 pick on freeman but not the 12 pick. Freeman needs a couple of years to learn how to play Qb . Freeman has all the physical tools but needs to work on mental part of the game. The money at 18 spot would be also better for someone to hold a clip board for 2 years.
Kyle Orton is going to be our QB in 2009, like it or not. McDaniels thinks he can win with him and will not draft a QB in the higher rounds. My guess is a DT and a LB with the first 2 picks. A Cornerback will not surprise me. What will surprise me is taking an offensive player within the first 2 rounds.

Look for Denver to trade down further in the first round. I can see Denver trading 12 and/or 18 to gather more draft picks.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:22 AM   #7
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All I have to say is....No freakin way! If the Broncos take Freeman at 12, I will videotape myself eating a homeless man's underwear and YouTube it for the world to see.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:33 AM   #8
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:34 AM   #9
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Wonderful - #30 defense in the league last year, and with our first pick we will take a QB.

I opt for not.
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:39 AM   #10
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We won't get a qb till the third or fourth in that case i hope it is Grahm Harrel

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Old 04-10-2009, 05:40 AM   #11
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All I have to say is....No freakin way! If the Broncos take Freeman at 12, I will videotape myself eating a homeless man's underwear and YouTube it for the world to see.
I'm going to hold you to that, mon frere....
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Old 04-10-2009, 05:59 AM   #13
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Wonderful - #30 defense in the league last year, and with our first pick we will take a QB.

I opt for not.
I think everyone's missing the point here.

It's not what I think the Broncos SHOULD do.

It's what I think the Broncos WILL do.

Big difference.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:09 AM   #14
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I think everyone's missing the point here.

It's not what I think the Broncos SHOULD do.

It's what I think the Broncos WILL do.

Big difference.
so you have a titanic sized hole on defense and trade away your QB to get more picks to fill said hole. Now you expect them to fill those holes by drafting an overrated QB?
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:12 AM   #15
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The Broncos will not take a quarterback in the first round.

I'm gonna go ahead and call it.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:20 AM   #16
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We have an "above average" QB right now. He's bought in 100%. He's won a division title. His former teammates really liked him. Scratch that, we have two of those QB's. Let McD show his "genius" with these two guys.

Fix the defense.

Fix the defense.

Fix the defense.

If you are going to do anything with a first round player on offense, let it be Jeremy Maclin or pick your favorite RB (Moreno or Wells). Those guys could help our "above average" Qb's look pretty good. Otherwise, fix the defense. Pack the D full of top notch competition.
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:25 AM   #17
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There is a likely chance that Josh Freeman gets drafted somewhere around #12 to #18... and I would love it if it were at #12 or #18 b/c it would mean we made a nice trade to move down for an extra pick!!! No way he'll be drafted by Denver!
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Old 04-10-2009, 06:25 AM   #18
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I think everyone's missing the point here.

It's not what I think the Broncos SHOULD do.

It's what I think the Broncos WILL do.

Big difference.
This is where you are missing the boat.

Here is what we know:
  1. Washington, who had a higher first round pick, was in heavy pursuit of Cutler.
  2. It was also reported that Orton was a big factor in the trade.
  3. McD seems very loyal to what he knows, and every QB he has worked with were not high round picks
  4. McD also seems to like the system QBs, which Freeman does no seem to be
  5. We need defense bad, and McD did not address many of these needs in FA


Given the above and much more, I say there is ZERO chance of drafting a QB day one.
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I just don't see the Broncos taking a QB in the 1st round. Maybe for Stafford they'd really consider it, but I just don't see it for anyone else.

Just because people think you need a QB doesn't mean you just take one.
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:01 AM   #20
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:01 AM   #21
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:02 AM   #22
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I'm gonna go ahead and call it there will be more I'm gonna go ahead and call it threads before the draft
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:03 AM   #23
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[QUOTE=ExpatFan;2377023]I think everyone's missing the point here.

It's not what I think the Broncos SHOULD do.

It's what I think the Broncos WILL do.

Big difference.[/QUOTE]

Right. Like a busted crystal ball.
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:07 AM   #24
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No F'in way...

It is more likely McDaniels drafts Rhett Bomar with 3b
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Old 04-10-2009, 07:08 AM   #25
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I could see us taking Sanchez if he falls to 12 or I could see us trading a 3rd to move up to get Sanchez...the only other thing I think could happen involving a QB to Denver...would be our 2 to Cleveland for Quinn.
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