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Old 04-09-2009, 05:38 PM   #1
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Cutler is gone. Hoodie Jr. is calling the shots.

Here is my question for the team. A number of outlets are speculating that the Broncos want Sanchez.

This doesn't make sense to me from a couple of perspectives. First, the Patriots way is to trade down, not up. Second, if the outcome of this entire fiasco is to turn Cutler into a rookie QB - that seems like a bad idea for the continued employment of said Hoodie Jr.

Finally, the defense remains the prime problem here.

So - does anyone really think Sanchez is an option? If so, how does that make sense?
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:41 PM   #2
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I say you go with the guy you traded Cutler away for, and we see how he does if he wins the job in the first place. If he isn't the reincarnation of Drew Brees, you go quarterback next year, where the class is suppose to be better.
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Cutler is gone. Hoodie Jr. is calling the shots.

Here is my question for the team. A number of outlets are speculating that the Broncos want Sanchez.

This doesn't make sense to me from a couple of perspectives. First, the Patriots way is to trade down, not up. Second, if the outcome of this entire fiasco is to turn Cutler into a rookie QB - that seems like a bad idea for the continued employment of said Hoodie Jr.

Finally, the defense remains the prime problem here.

So - does anyone really think Sanchez is an option? If so, how does that make sense?
Pats can trade down and still find players. Can we? Nobody knows.

Sanchez does nothing for me.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:56 PM   #4
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I just don't see it. Maybe if Sanchez is hanging around at 9 they make a slight move, but even then. Why not just see how this year plays out with Orton/Simms? Worst case Denver gets a top 8 pick next year if the team sucks, and best case they get a top 10 for the Bears pick if Chicago implodes (although that seems pretty unlikely). Either way, chances are good that with multiple 1st rounders 2010, there will be a better QB prospect they could get.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:57 PM   #5
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I say you go with the guy you traded Cutler away for, and we see how he does if he wins the job in the first place. If he isn't the reincarnation of Drew Brees, you go quarterback next year, where the class is suppose to be better.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:06 PM   #6
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actually, the pats dont necessarily trade down, they pick a guy they want and who can fit there system and dont care if they reach to take him. like meyo. picked him like 10 overall when he wasnt projected to go til late 1st.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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I think you draft him and let him sit and learn for a year.
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We gave up a trade with Washington which was their pick #13 a 2nd rd and a 3rd rd this year and their 1st in 2010 (Likely higher than Bears) to get Orton so no qb this year most likely. I hope!
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:14 PM   #9
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Pats can trade down and still find players. Can we? Nobody knows.

Sanchez does nothing for me.
Can they really? This is a serious question. These are the players that I can think of, drafted after the 2nd round since 2003, that have made any difference at all for the Pats. An average of less than one decent/good player per year.


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P.S. I do NOT want the Broncos to draft Sanchez or any other early-round QB this year.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:15 PM   #10
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I just don't see it. Maybe if Sanchez is hanging around at 9 they make a slight move, but even then. Why not just see how this year plays out with Orton/Simms? Worst case Denver gets a top 8 pick next year if the team sucks, and best case they get a top 10 for the Bears pick if Chicago implodes (although that seems pretty unlikely). Either way, chances are good that with multiple 1st rounders 2010, there will be a better QB prospect they could get.
I wouldn't take him at 12.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:23 PM   #11
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actually, the pats dont necessarily trade down, they pick a guy they want and who can fit there system and dont care if they reach to take him. like meyo. picked him like 10 overall when he wasnt projected to go til late 1st.
They traded down from 7 to 10 to pick Mayo... just saying.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:31 PM   #12
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If you take a QB in the first round then you've basically traded Cutler for 2 1st rounders...

IMO that make a crappy trade just that much worse.

According to most people this kid is a QB guru who can make talentless hacks like Cassel into studs... Let see what he can do with Orton/Simms before we grab another QB.
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Great, Now that Cutler is gone, We are going to have daily Sanchez threads.
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Like every year I hope we get a team panicked to have our 12 spot a lower 1 and a second.
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Like every year I hope we get a team panicked to have our 12 spot a lower 1 and a second.
The thing is that we don't need a stockpile of picks, if anything we have too many as is. The team is young, they just need talent as some positions.
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:28 PM   #16
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I say you go with the guy you traded Cutler away for, and we see how he does if he wins the job in the first place. If he isn't the reincarnation of Drew Brees, you go quarterback next year, where the class is suppose to be better.
This is the most logical choice. I still haven't read any remotely logical reason for why we'd be interested in Sanchez. We didn't attend the USC pro-day at all (which I love because of how many busts they have), McDaniels took a lower draft pick because he liked Orton more than the other offers and there is no history whereby you can assume we would take Sanchez. The closest thing I've read is on a mock draft blog there was a comment that "McDaniels likes USC quarterbacks," presumably because he worked with Cassel. Fallacious.

The one thing I do know is that we've worked out a number of quarterbacks this year and none of them were named Sanchez or Stafford. I think next year will be a much better draft for quarterbacks and probably be better overall in a lot of other areas.
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:47 PM   #17
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The thing is that we don't need a stockpile of picks, if anything we have too many as is. The team is young, they just need talent as some positions.
The old saying goes you can never have too many picks. But you would prefer to have picks spread over a few years, just like the Broncos did. If we say traded #12 and moved down to #16 then I would expect the Broncos would take a 2nd rounder for that in 2009 or they could get a 2nd rounder and 3rd rounder in 2010. To me, that's more logical. Yes, we are piling up the picks but it's never a bad thing to start acquiring more picks for the following year.
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Old 04-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #18
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Mark Sanchez in the first round would be the heighth of irresponsibility for the stewards of this roster. Our defense reeks to the stars above, and we're still missing important pieces of the 3-4 depth chart puzzle.

I can't believe we're even discussing such a silly thing.


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If Sanchez is there at 12 you take him.

What you don't do...is trade the 12 & 18 to go get him.

You could trade a 3rd to go up and get him...but not #18...at least in that scenario you would get Sanchez, Orton, and a 1 in 2010 for cutler and a 5th. You could easily negate the 5th for Orton and then it would be Sanchez and a #1 in 2010 for Cutler. At least that sounds somewhat sensible.

I really think they need to get either get Rajii or Jackson with #12 and Cushing/malaluga with 18 for this to be a success for our Broncos. Take the guys who are sure bets on Defense and you might just make this work out. Take any reaches and you are done...as in crispy critter!

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We gave up a trade with Washington which was their pick #13 a 2nd rd and a 3rd rd this year and their 1st in 2010 (Likely higher than Bears) to get Orton so no qb this year most likely. I hope!
where was the link for such a proposal ? can you send me the link. And washington did not have a 2nd and there was no team lined up for campbell.. so can you shed light on your statement
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Like every year I hope we get a team panicked to have our 12 spot a lower 1 and a second.
Haven't the broncos been that team that panicked and moved up in the last 3-4 yrs. For Cutler we did and so did we for Moss. One was a boom and other one was a bust. So you say as though some other team does it.. when it is we who were one of the team who did that stupidity.
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Hamrob - "If Sanchez is there at 12 you take him."


Agree.

If both Raji and Sanchez were still on the boards at 12, I'd take Raji and thank the draft gods he slipped that far, but if Raji is gone, which is far more likely, Sanchez is an honest option. He's going to need a lot of seasoning anyway, so the depth chart will remain with Orton and Simms at 1-2.
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Old 04-09-2009, 09:27 PM   #24
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Cutler is gone. Hoodie Jr. is calling the shots.

Here is my question for the team. A number of outlets are speculating that the Broncos want Sanchez.

This doesn't make sense to me from a couple of perspectives. First, the Patriots way is to trade down, not up. Second, if the outcome of this entire fiasco is to turn Cutler into a rookie QB - that seems like a bad idea for the continued employment of said Hoodie Jr.

Finally, the defense remains the prime problem here.

So - does anyone really think Sanchez is an option? If so, how does that make sense?
if he falls to 12 i could see McDaniels pulling the trigger on him, but i seriously doubt we would move up to get him. although this entire offseason has been crazy so who knows?
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If Sanchez is there at 12 you take him.

What you don't do...is trade the 12 & 18 to go get him.

You could trade a 3rd to go up and get him...but not #18...at least in that scenario you would get Sanchez, Orton, and a 1 in 2010 for cutler and a 5th. You could easily negate the 5th for Orton and then it would be Sanchez and a #1 in 2010 for Cutler. At least that sounds somewhat sensible.

I really think they need to get either get Rajii or Jackson with #12 and Cushing/malaluga with 18 for this to be a success for our Broncos. Take the guys who are sure bets on Defense and you might just make this work out. Take any reaches and you are done...as in crispy critter!
Why do you take him? Is he suddenly some cant miss prospect? If we have a QB we like, explain to me why you even think about taking him or TRADING UP to take him.
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