We will see a vastly more competitive team than we have seen in several seasons. - The Orange Mane

baja · 04-09-2009, 10:20 AM

A shake up was needed, to this most now agree.

Where we differ ( 44% to 56% ) is how we feel about the cutler issue but we do have a season coming up.

What does that team show on the field?

I say we will become know for our Intensity, defensive aggressiveness and good Special Teams play.

Traveler · 04-09-2009, 10:22 AM

My hope is that they learn how to tackle too.

BroncoBuff · 04-09-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Traveler

My hope is that they learn how to tackle too.

Yeah ... but I did notice Vernon Fox is still on the roster

broncofan7 · 04-09-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

A shake up was needed, to this most now agree.

Where we differ ( 44% to 56% ) is how we feel about the cutler issue but we do have a season coming up.

What does that team show on the field?

I say we will become know for our Intensity, defensive aggressiveness and good Special Teams play.

Not this next season we won't. We will be known for being one of the 3 AFC west punching bags for the NFC East and AFC north-5-11. Book it.

TheDave · 04-09-2009, 10:33 AM

too many changes to expect much of anything... I'm hoping for the best but I sticking with an over/under of 5 wins.

DHallblows · 04-09-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

I say we will become know for our Intensity, defensive aggressiveness and good Special Teams play.

That translates to a ****ty team: "At least they're trying hard! Hardy har har!"

Hercules Rockefeller · 04-09-2009, 10:37 AM

This team is going to be very bad unless they can pull a "Clady" on the defensive side of the ball with one of their picks.

baja · 04-09-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DHallblows

That translates to a ****ty team: "At least they're trying hard! Hardy har har!"

No it's a team that is learning to play together within a new system on both sides of the ball and is an eager team that plays with intensity.

A team that will lose games while bring it together.

I'm thinking we will see a much stronger team at the end of the season unlike previous years.

SpiritGuy · 04-09-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

they can pull a "Clady" on the defensive side of the ball with one of their picks.

Hopefully it's a Clady and Royal, with the rest having the intensity and desire of WW, Larsen, and Hillis!

Doggcow · 04-09-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Yeah ... but I did notice Vernon Fox is still on the roster

Or Lowry! It's insane how improved that position will be this year. Is Harana-Daze starting with Dawkins? (I think thats our best pair)

Doggcow · 04-09-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SpiritGuy

Hopefully it's a Clady and Royal, with the rest having the intensity and desire of WW, Larsen, and Hillis!

God damn I love our 2008 draft class, I really do.

Hotrod · 04-09-2009, 11:00 AM

One of my concerns is the team needs to find its own identity. I dont think we really have one right now.

God I miss Al Wilson, Atwater, Easy Ed etc.....

baja · 04-09-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dortoh

One of my concerns is the team needs to find its own identity. I dont think we really have one right now.

God I miss Al Wilson, Atwater, Easy Ed etc.....

great point HR, who in the draft can be our next Al Wilson type leader?

gyldenlove · 04-09-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

No it's a team that is learning to play together within a new system on both sides of the ball and is an eager team that plays with intensity.

A team that will lose games while bring it together.

I'm thinking we will see a much stronger team at the end of the season unlike previous years.

A team that loses games is not a competitive team. Losing is for losers.

baja · 04-09-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

A team that loses games is not a competitive team. Losing is for losers.

No losers are the guys on the field the last three games of last season.

You can compete and still lose.

Think the Celtcs and the Lakers when they were playing all those 7 game series.

LonghornBronco · 04-09-2009, 11:14 AM

We've gotten older, slower, and significantly worse at QB, not to mention very green in the FO and coach = 4-12 bank it!

Hulamau · 04-09-2009, 11:16 AM

And I think Carlton Powell is going to be a big factor on the D Line next to the nose. The guy can penetrate and stop the run.

He had all last year to learn the pro life and get recovered from that Achilles which at least happened early in Camp so he is pretty much good to go now and should by 100% before training camp. I like his attitude and he's got a non-stop motor. Add two more good DE/OLB's and a solid Nose to rotate with Fields and we are going to be much improved on D.

Not to mention Nolan calling the shots with Nunnelly coaching up the D-line.

Time to put away the Cun*ler Violins and start getting fired up around here!
if we hit on 5 or 6 solid picks out of the 10 this year and another 5 next year along with the past two years guys coming on, plus the solid vets we have, well be in fine shape.

Could see six or seven picks on D this year and possibly 3 or 4 on O with a QB, RB, WR and Center (maybe) to develop taken this year.

baja · 04-09-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornBronco

We've gotten older, slower, and significantly worse at QB, not to mention very green in the FO and coach = 4-12 bank it!

We needed some veteran leadership. The team had gotten dysfunctional and robotic.

baja · 04-09-2009, 11:20 AM

Beginning with the loss of Al Wilson and jake Plummer we have become very much a team playing without any passion. I do blame Cutler for some of that because he is the QB and his mopyness did matter. The effort last season in the last three games is inexcusable IMO.

Rohirrim · 04-09-2009, 11:23 AM

I'm going to wait until after the draft to get a feel for next season. Right now, my prediction hasn't changed from when Shanahan was still here: 4-12.

BroncoBuff · 04-09-2009, 11:24 AM

There's always the Atlanta and Arizona factor to give us optimism ... but realistically, we're a 6 or 7 win team this year. Too many changes - changes all across the board.

Plus we play the NFC East ... that's 3 maybe 4 losses right there, those are all good teams, save maybe Washington.

cmhargrove · 04-09-2009, 11:27 AM

Our defense minus Slowik was a vast improvement.

Using Elvis properly could be huge.
Using Guys like Peterson, Thomas, and Powell properly on the outside could be much better against the run. But, we need another NT.

Our defense should look better, and keep their helmets properly attached to their heads...

baja · 04-09-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

There's always the Atlanta and Arizona factor to give us optimism ... but realistically, we're a 6 or 7 win team this year. Too many changes - changes all across the board. Plus we play the NFC East ... that's 3, maybe even 4 losses there, tghose are all good teams, save maybe Washington.

This thread is not about wins or loses, it's about fielding a team that loves to play football and it shows. That is what we have let slip away here in Denver IMO. and I really believe McD will bring that back, 05 was the last time we had any of that.

Hotrod · 04-09-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Beginning with the loss of Al Wilson and jake Plummer we have become very much a team playing without any passion. I do blame Cutler for some of that because he is the QB and his mopyness did matter. The effort last season in the last three games is inexcusable IMO.

QFT

Jay is not a leader period.

cmhargrove · 04-09-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dortoh

One of my concerns is the team needs to find its own identity. I dont think we really have one right now.

God I miss Al Wilson, Atwater, Easy Ed etc.....

I wish Woodyard could be 20 lbs heavier. With guys like Woodyard, Dawkins, and maybe a Delmas or Chung - we could have an attitude in a hurry. The D-line is still the big question to me. Where will they stick all our d-tackles? How many convert to End, and how many try to bulk up for NT? That's what I am wondering right now.

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04-09-2009, 10:20 AM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,748 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	We will see a vastly more competitive team than we have seen in several seasons. A shake up was needed, to this most now agree. Where we differ ( 44% to 56% ) is how we feel about the cutler issue but we do have a season coming up. What does that team show on the field? I say we will become know for our Intensity, defensive aggressiveness and good Special Teams play.

04-09-2009, 11:16 AM	#17
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,030 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	And I think Carlton Powell is going to be a big factor on the D Line next to the nose. The guy can penetrate and stop the run. He had all last year to learn the pro life and get recovered from that Achilles which at least happened early in Camp so he is pretty much good to go now and should by 100% before training camp. I like his attitude and he's got a non-stop motor. Add two more good DE/OLB's and a solid Nose to rotate with Fields and we are going to be much improved on D. Not to mention Nolan calling the shots with Nunnelly coaching up the D-line. Time to put away the Cunler Violins and start getting fired up around here! if we hit on 5 or 6 solid picks out of the 10 this year and another 5 next year along with the past two years guys coming on, plus the solid vets we have, well be in fine shape. Could see six or seven picks on D this year and possibly 3 or 4 on O with a QB, RB, WR and Center (maybe) to develop taken this year. Last edited by Hulamau; 04-09-2009 at 11:25 AM..*

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04-09-2009, 10:22 AM	#2
Traveler Traveling Man! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,408 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	My hope is that they learn how to tackle too.

04-09-2009, 10:33 AM	#5
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	too many changes to expect much of anything... I'm hoping for the best but I sticking with an over/under of 5 wins.

04-09-2009, 10:37 AM	#7
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	This team is going to be very bad unless they can pull a "Clady" on the defensive side of the ball with one of their picks.

04-09-2009, 11:00 AM	#12
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	One of my concerns is the team needs to find its own identity. I dont think we really have one right now. God I miss Al Wilson, Atwater, Easy Ed etc.....

04-09-2009, 11:14 AM	#16
LonghornBronco Ring of Famer Hook'em Horns Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin Posts: 1,356 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	We've gotten older, slower, and significantly worse at QB, not to mention very green in the FO and coach = 4-12 bank it!

04-09-2009, 11:20 AM	#19
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,748 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Beginning with the loss of Al Wilson and jake Plummer we have become very much a team playing without any passion. I do blame Cutler for some of that because he is the QB and his mopyness did matter. The effort last season in the last three games is inexcusable IMO.

04-09-2009, 11:23 AM	#20
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	I'm going to wait until after the draft to get a feel for next season. Right now, my prediction hasn't changed from when Shanahan was still here: 4-12.

04-09-2009, 11:24 AM	#21
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,432 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	There's always the Atlanta and Arizona factor to give us optimism ... but realistically, we're a 6 or 7 win team this year. Too many changes - changes all across the board. Plus we play the NFC East ... that's 3 maybe 4 losses right there, those are all good teams, save maybe Washington.

04-09-2009, 11:27 AM	#22
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,396 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Our defense minus Slowik was a vast improvement. Using Elvis properly could be huge. Using Guys like Peterson, Thomas, and Powell properly on the outside could be much better against the run. But, we need another NT. Our defense should look better, and keep their helmets properly attached to their heads...