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Jay Cutler 52 61.90%
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:51 AM   #1
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Default Who will have the better year between Cutler and Orton?

I am not asking who is the better player.
I am asking statistically who do you think will have the better year between the two.

Obviously McDaniels sees something in Orton, and Orton is in a much better situation to succeed than Cutler. Orton has the superior Oline, recievers, and the running game is prolly around the same.

I expect Cutler to throw for more yards, but I think Orton will have the better TD/INT ratio.

I expect Cutler to win, but I am just curious how wide the margin is
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Statistically, I'm guessing Cutler will. More flat-out natural talent. But how that will translate when he doesn't have the time he had here to throw... I don't know.

I think Orton will definitely have fewer picks.
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Cutler will probably have higher numbers of everything. Especially picks (15-20). All I want to see out of Orton is a solid campaign like Plummer put up in 05.
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Orton will throw more Td's and less pics .......Chicago's offense is very conservative
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Jake Plummer was talked as a potential MVP candidate in 05

It happens.....
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Cutler should have the better year, but with the McDaniels offense, maybe Orton will have better numbers. Whos to say that Orton will even be on the team?
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I could see it working out where Cutler has fewer TDs. Chicago might decide it's better to just give Forte the ball 3 times at the 20.
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It will be interesting. Orton only threw the ball 465 times last year to Cutler's 600+.. And he still had 12 picks.. wait a minute..
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Cutler should have the better year, but with the McDaniels offense, maybe Orton will have better numbers. Whos to say that Orton will even be on the team?
I would tend to agree with your highlighted point except that Peter King's article stated that the selling point for McD was Orton. So, I think that he will probably be on the team, but I still am not sure that he can beat out Chris Simms.
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This type of reasoning should prove to whoever posted it that they are, in fact, prone to deluding themselves into believing anything they want.

Our QB's suck. Get used to it.
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Jake Plummer was talked as a potential MVP candidate in 05

It happens.....
Jake Plummer is thrice the QB that either of our scrubs are.

McD thinks that he's the Shanahan of QB's...that he can develop anyone. We'll see how that goes.
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This type of reasoning should prove to whoever posted it that they are, in fact, prone to deluding themselves into believing anything they want.

Our QB's suck. Get used to it.
you ?? what happened in your last prediction with Basketball ? yeah thought so
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It will be interesting. Orton only threw the ball 465 times last year to Cutler's 600+.. And he still had 12 picks.. wait a minute..
Hey, if you add two picks that would be Cutler in 2007. 467 att. 14 picks. Then we upgraded the offensive line, WR's, and opened up the scheme. Wonder if that will help Orton also...

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Jake Plummer is thrice the QB that either of our scrubs are.

McD thinks that he's the Shanahan of QB's...that he can develop anyone. We'll see how that goes.
And we were laughed at nationally for signing Plummer.

Perhaps you should withhold judgement until one of them takes a snap.
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I never offered my opinion on who I picked McDouche, I am just asking a question


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It will be interesting. Orton only threw the ball 465 times last year to Cutler's 600+.. And he still had 12 picks.. wait a minute..
Okay, checked some numbers...

Cutler in 2008: 616 attempts, 18 interceptions
Orton in 2008: 465 attempts, 12 interceptions
Plummer in 2005: 521 attempts, 20 interceptions
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Hey, if you add two picks that would be Cutler in 2007. 467 att. 14 picks. Then we upgraded the offensive line, WR's, and opened up the scheme. Wonder if that will help Orton also...
Orton simply can't make the throws that Jay can. Running game will suffer. Wonder if that will help Orton.
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Orton simply can't make the throws that Jay can. Running game will suffer. Wonder if that will help Orton.
Judging from the consistently high number of turnovers Jay generates, Jay shouldn't make the throws he does either.
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And we were laughed at nationally for signing Plummer.

Perhaps you should withhold judgement until one of them takes a snap.
We were laughed at for signing Plummer? Were you even alive then?

We outbid several teams for Plummer, the foremost of which was the Bears!

Kind of ironic, eh? We sign Plummer who becomes the 2nd best Denver Broncos QB in franchise history, we undercut him by drafting a QB to develop behind him, then he retires, then our golden boy draftee jumps ship and goes to where Plummer was within a nats butt of signing...and we're left with a Bubby Brister (Orton) and a Greise (Simms) to run the team.

Aw, swell!
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We were laughed at for signing Plummer? Were you even alive then?

We outbid several teams for Plummer, the foremost of which was the Bears!

Kind of ironic, eh? We sign Plummer who becomes the 2nd best Denver Broncos QB in franchise history, we undercut him by drafting a QB to develop behind him, then he retires, then our golden boy draftee jumps ship and goes to where Plummer was within a nats butt of signing...and we're left with a Bubby Brister (Orton) and a Greise (Simms) to run the team.

Aw, swell!
Sure was alive then! I was born in '79, so... yes.

Several teams? One other team. The Bears.

And yes. Laughed at. Nationally. People could not understand why we'd get a guy who threw a ton of interceptions and never really showed anything resembling greatness in the desert.

The reaction was a lot like the Orton pickup, minus the anger about dismissing a bratty starter.
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Judging from the consistently high number of turnovers Jay generates, Jay shouldn't make the throws he does either.
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The reaction was a lot like the Orton pickup, minus the anger about dismissing a bratty starter.

No, it was nothing like the Orton "pick-up". Nothing at all.

Most Broncos fans were excited to get Plummer, who was an upgrade in talent and in competitiveness at the position. Also because Plummer reminded Broncos fans a little of Elway in his never-say-die attitude.

The "Orton pick-up" more like when the Mavericks decided to let go of Steve Nash because he didnt fit the cap, and because his salary could then be used on Erick Dampier instead.

In other words, a serious downgrade.
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And it's still comparing apples to oranges. One was a FA signing. The other brought three picks including two first rounders to town. Addition by subtraction. Yes we lose a key player, but we have an opportunity to improve the entire team.

And yeah, Bronco fans were excited about Plummer while we were ripped in the national media for the move.
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