In a mock draft.... - The Orange Mane

crosswatt · 03-26-2009, 02:07 PM

on Saintsreport.com, and I have the Broncos again this year. So far, the draft has been a bit unpredictable. Who would be a better fit out of the players listed at 12?

here is how the picks have gone so far....

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First round

Pk # Team

1 1 Detroit- --->Jason Smith OT Baylor

2 2 St. Louis---->Eugene Monroe OT Virginia

3 3 Kansas City--->Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forrest

4 4 Seattle---->Brian Orakpo DE Texas

5 5 Cleveland---->Matthew Stafford QB Georgia

6 6 Cincinnati---->Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

7 7 Green Bay (fromOakland)---->BJ Raji DT Boston College

socalorado · 03-26-2009, 02:12 PM

Obviously.

Lex and OhioBronco endorse this post.
(Oh, i'm gonna get hell for this!)

crosswatt · 03-26-2009, 02:17 PM

Maclin just went to Jacksonville......

SouthStndJunkie · 03-26-2009, 02:32 PM

I say draft Tyson Jackson for Denver.

socalorado · 03-26-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

I say draft Tyson Jackson for Denver.

Shhhhh!!

montrose · 03-26-2009, 02:56 PM

Brown is an intriguing value because he can rush the passer while Jenkins might be the best overall value on the board. With that, I'd be torn between Jackson and Cushing who both appear to be safe picks who could help at positions of need right away. I'd probably go with Cushing and cross my fingers Marks falls to our pick in round 2.

Rohirrim · 03-26-2009, 03:15 PM

I would have to go with Cushing because he brings so much more to the table. Because of Cushing's knowledge of the position and understanding of game planning and his experience as Carroll's field general, he's not just going to be a guy who plays a position. He's going to play his position, coach his fellow players, call the plays, encourage those around him, plus be a strong influence in the lockeroom. The guy is a film junkie as well as a nutrition and fitness fanatic (remember Romanowski?). While I think those other guys will be good at their positions, Cushing gives you a lot more bang for the buck.

Liquid Courage · 03-26-2009, 04:03 PM

did i see this correctly that the "GM" for CLE took a QB!!?? Uh, are they aware that only 1 QB plays at a time unless their name ends with Ward, Stewart or even Wallace??

crosswatt · 03-26-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid Courage

did i see this correctly that the "GM" for CLE took a QB!!?? Uh, are they aware that only 1 QB plays at a time unless their name ends with Ward, Stewart or even Wallace??

Yes. It was a "Best Player Available" type deal. His comments...

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Wait? Stafford is still on the board? I doubt that happens in the real draft and the Browns dont really need a qb, but they cannot pass on Stafford.

Hearing no offers the Browns will select Matthew Stafford. Someone will want to give us a big time veteran for him. If not, we will keep him and trade Quinn, probably in a three way deal where Quinn goes to Denver.

If Orapko had been on the board, that was our pick.

Liquid Courage · 03-26-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by crosswatt

Yes. It was a "Best Player Available" type deal. His comments...

well at least there was some rationale. thanks, i feel much better!

elsid13 · 03-26-2009, 04:50 PM

I know it to might be consider to high, but I think Gilbert might be the choice. The other candidate should be Jenkins.

BroncoMan4ever · 03-26-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Shhhhh!!

i agree, but we need DL help i am more on the Jackson bandwagon and hoping we can swing a deal to get back into the 1st and get either Cushing or Mathews.

Kaylore · 03-26-2009, 04:52 PM

Brown
Davis
Jackson

crosswatt · 04-10-2009, 07:04 AM

Just a quick update on how things are going:

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12) Brian Cushing OLB USC
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559359
53) Ron Brace DT Boston College
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/502309
79) Louis Murphy WR Florida
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/564165
114) Keenan Lewis CB Oregon State
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/504720
140) Nic Harris OLB Oklahoma
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563872
141) Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1116692
149) Corvey Irvin DT Georgia
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1244692

A few FYI's:
I think Irvin will be a better defensive end in the pros. Especially in a 3-4.

Picked up a third 5th round pick to move down a few slots in the 3rd...

Taking a QB in the 6th or 7th, and thinking Nathan Brown from Central Arkansas.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1278598
Other pick will be best player available, which has been my main strategy anyway.

Paladin · 04-10-2009, 07:17 AM

2 CBs? You suffering from trauma due to Bly?

socalorado · 04-10-2009, 08:09 AM

How about a DE?!?!?!?!? JEEZ!!

Heres a guy who you may consider, see if hes been taken yet.

Orion Martin, Virginia Tech
Height: 6-2. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Combine 40 Time: 4.88.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.70.
Benchx225: 24. Vertical: 31.
Projected Round (2009): 5-6.
1/9/09: Orion Martin finished strong, collecting 13 TFL, 7.5 sacks and four passes broken up.

5/7/08: Probably a right end in the 3-4 at the next level. Orion Martin notched 78 tackles and 4.5 sacks last season.

High motor guy!!!

Also, as for a QB,

Mike Reilly, Central Washington
Height: 6-3. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
Combine 40 Time: 4.92.
Hand Size: 10.
Projected Round (2009): 5-6.
12/20/08: Will play in the Texas vs. the Nation All-Star Game. He compiled 3,706 yards, 37 touchdowns and only six picks as a senior.
OR

Curtis Painter, Purdue
Height: 6-3. Weight: 225.
Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
Combine 40 Time: 4.92.
Hand Size: 9 1/4.
Projected Round (2009): 7-FA.
12/20/08: Curtis Painter had 13 touchdowns and 11 picks, and a pedestrian YPA of 6.3. I blame Joe Tiller, who can't coach his way out of a paper bag.

crosswatt · 04-10-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

How about a DE?!?!?!?!? JEEZ!!

Irvins will be one at the next level. I have been targeting ends throughout the process, but, without reaching, I was not in position to get one. In a 3-4, "tweener" DE's become OLB's, and "tweener" DT's become DE's.

crosswatt · 04-10-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

2 CBs? You suffering from trauma due to Bly?

BPA. Munnerlyn is a good returner and special teams guy.....And Champ can't play forever.

crosswatt · 04-10-2009, 08:22 AM

I also was looking at safeties, but none have matched the draft position I was at.

socalorado · 04-10-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crosswatt

Irvins will be one at the next level. I have been targeting ends throughout the process, but, without reaching, I was not in position to get one. In a 3-4, "tweener" DE's become OLB's, and "tweener" DT's become DE's.

OK. I didnt even really look at him on your list, my bad. That fits.
I still would get another one though.
Finish strong on in the trenches man.

socalorado · 04-10-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crosswatt

I also was looking at safeties, but none have matched the draft position I was at.

Maybe Nate Ness ARI in the 7th? Could be a sleeper guy.

crosswatt · 04-10-2009, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Maybe Nate Ness ARI in the 7th? Could be a sleeper guy.

David Veikune from Hawaii is also an option, if he stays on the board till the 6th....

crosswatt · 04-22-2009, 09:26 AM

I've finished...

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The Bronco’s are in a similar position to the Saints,(well, they were until the Cutler trade) with a powerful offense and a very suspect defense. With a new scheme (3-4), new players were needed. I think I did much better in the later rounds, as Irvin, Potter, and Egboh all could contribute very early to a need position. Brace I think starts from day one, and Munnerlyn forms a killer return tandem with Eddie Royal.

Here's to a great draft for you guys. I wish nothing but the best towards the Broncos and you fans.

View Poll Results: Assuming they are still there, who would you take?
Everette Brown	13	28.89%
Vontae Davis	0	0%
Jeremy Maclin	1	2.22%
Malcom Jenkins	5	11.11%
Brian Cushing	9	20.00%
Tyson Jackson	13	28.89%
Other (please explain)	4	8.89%
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03-26-2009, 02:12 PM	#2
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,209	Obviously. Lex and OhioBronco endorse this post. (Oh, i'm gonna get hell for this!)

03-26-2009, 02:17 PM	#3
crosswatt Just Drafted Visiting Saints fan... Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 46 Adopt-a-Bronco: Boss and Champ	Maclin just went to Jacksonville......

03-26-2009, 02:32 PM	#4
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,251	I say draft Tyson Jackson for Denver.

03-26-2009, 02:56 PM	#6
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Brown is an intriguing value because he can rush the passer while Jenkins might be the best overall value on the board. With that, I'd be torn between Jackson and Cushing who both appear to be safe picks who could help at positions of need right away. I'd probably go with Cushing and cross my fingers Marks falls to our pick in round 2.

03-26-2009, 03:15 PM	#7
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,814	I would have to go with Cushing because he brings so much more to the table. Because of Cushing's knowledge of the position and understanding of game planning and his experience as Carroll's field general, he's not just going to be a guy who plays a position. He's going to play his position, coach his fellow players, call the plays, encourage those around him, plus be a strong influence in the lockeroom. The guy is a film junkie as well as a nutrition and fitness fanatic (remember Romanowski?). While I think those other guys will be good at their positions, Cushing gives you a lot more bang for the buck.

03-26-2009, 04:03 PM	#8
Liquid Courage The 4th Amigo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, OR (deported from God's Country) Posts: 383	did i see this correctly that the "GM" for CLE took a QB!!?? Uh, are they aware that only 1 QB plays at a time unless their name ends with Ward, Stewart or even Wallace??

03-26-2009, 04:50 PM	#11
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,080	I know it to might be consider to high, but I think Gilbert might be the choice. The other candidate should be Jenkins.

03-26-2009, 04:52 PM	#13
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,019 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Brown Davis Jackson

04-10-2009, 07:17 AM	#15
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	2 CBs? You suffering from trauma due to Bly?

04-10-2009, 08:09 AM	#16
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,209	How about a DE?!?!?!?!? JEEZ!! Heres a guy who you may consider, see if hes been taken yet. Orion Martin, Virginia Tech Height: 6-2. Weight: 260. Projected 40 Time: 4.70. Combine 40 Time: 4.88. Pro Day 40 Time: 4.70. Benchx225: 24. Vertical: 31. Projected Round (2009): 5-6. 1/9/09: Orion Martin finished strong, collecting 13 TFL, 7.5 sacks and four passes broken up. 5/7/08: Probably a right end in the 3-4 at the next level. Orion Martin notched 78 tackles and 4.5 sacks last season. High motor guy!!! Also, as for a QB, Mike Reilly, Central Washington Height: 6-3. Weight: 214. Projected 40 Time: 4.80. Combine 40 Time: 4.92. Hand Size: 10. Projected Round (2009): 5-6. 12/20/08: Will play in the Texas vs. the Nation All-Star Game. He compiled 3,706 yards, 37 touchdowns and only six picks as a senior. OR Curtis Painter, Purdue Height: 6-3. Weight: 225. Projected 40 Time: 4.85. Combine 40 Time: 4.92. Hand Size: 9 1/4. Projected Round (2009): 7-FA. 12/20/08: Curtis Painter had 13 touchdowns and 11 picks, and a pedestrian YPA of 6.3. I blame Joe Tiller, who can't coach his way out of a paper bag.

04-10-2009, 08:22 AM	#19
crosswatt Just Drafted Visiting Saints fan... Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 46 Adopt-a-Bronco: Boss and Champ	I also was looking at safeties, but none have matched the draft position I was at.