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Old 03-23-2009, 02:07 PM   #1
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Default Will Jay hold out if he's not traded?

will he use the nuclear option to get out of Denver?
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will he use the nuclear option to get out of Denver?

I don't know he won't respond to my text messages.
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I keep trying to reach his anonymous sources. Wouldn't you know it? Unlisted.
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with three years left on his deal?

good luck with that
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I don't know he won't respond to my text messages.
maybe Shanahan taught him how to text?
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:15 PM   #6
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with three years left on his deal?

good luck with that
hasn;t he already received the majority of the money from his contract? at this point, it wouldn't be a financial hardship for him to hold out and try to force a trade. the Broncos would almost have to acquiesce.
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with three years left on his deal?

good luck with that

Yep. How much s a QB that hasn't played in 3 seasons worth?
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Old 03-23-2009, 02:17 PM   #8
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Yep. How much s a QB that hasn't played in 3 seasons worth?
except the Broncos couldn't afford to keep him while his trade value dwindles to nothing. they would have to do a trade, right?
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I think he could hold out til Shanny gets a job.
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maybe Shanahan taught him how to text?
Maybe he can't get text messages in TN.
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except the Broncos couldn't afford to keep him while his trade value dwindles to nothing. they would have to do a trade, right?
Nope. They don't have to do anything. Plus, while he holds out his teammates are out there playing. I think he can hold out as long as week 10 before the year doesn't count on his contract. How much sway would he have after holding out 10 weeks with his own teammates? Not much. He's literally got just about zero leverage in this situation. Further more, there aren't many teams out there that could begin to offer what he's worth.
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I think Jay's too competitive to hold out and he has zero leverage. He'll play
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Yep. How much s a QB that hasn't played in 3 seasons worth?
Ask Matt Cassel
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I'm not so sure McDaniels system won't make Jay a better QB. I just hope JayBus has a sliver of an opening remaining in their minds to realize that.
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But he did play
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Ask Matt Cassel
He actually played though, so your comparison is off base.

If he doesn't play for two years, then plays the third, he would have some value. Like Cassel. See?
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Prior to this season, Cassel didn't start a game since high school....so he had more than 3 years off. The comparison is valid.
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Prior to this season, Cassel didn't start a game since high school....so he had more than 3 years off. The comparison is valid.
Its not valid because Cassel's trade value isnt based on the previous years, only last year.
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Maybe he can't get text messages in TN.
oh yeah...those guys are kind of slow down there

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Prior to this season, Cassel didn't start a game since high school....so he had more than 3 years off. The comparison is valid.
If he'd been traded prior to this season, the comparison would have been valid. He played this season, and played well. Without that on his resume, he wouldn't be worth as much as he was worth.

Not sure how to explain that in a clearer manner...

If Jay sits for the next three years, he will be basically an unknown quantity.
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Its not valid because Cassel's trade value isnt based on the previous years, only last year.
I wasn't talking about his trade value. I was talking about his value to the Pats THIS PAST season.....after sitting for over 5 years.

Regardless, this is indisputable: the "3 year holdout" situation is simply not going to happen. The Broncos are not going to simply pay him over $20 million to sit around and listen to his Ipod on the bench for the next 3 years. It's not going to happen.
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If Jay sits for the next three years, he will be basically an unknown quantity.
I would disagree with that one.

Regardless, it's not going to happen. See my post above.
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I would disagree with that one.

Regardless, it's not going to happen. See my post above.
It's not going to happen because he's going to sack up and play.
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Maybe he can't get text messages in TN.
perhaps morse code would work.
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with three years left on his deal?

good luck with that
Bowlen has said publicly that if Jay doesn't want to be a Bronco....why have an unhappy camper in training camp for the next 3 years.

Point is, forcing Cutler to stay a Bronco is like pouring alcohol on an open wound. I don't think McD nor Bowlen wants to face the scenario of Cutler riding the bench or on team suspension. Can't say that scenario won't happen.
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