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Old 03-23-2009, 12:40 PM   #1
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From the same guy who had Mike Shanahan heading to Kansas City to coach the Chiefs and the Broncos chasing the Patriots with the #12 pick desperate for Matt Cassel! Chris Mortensen with a few nuggets on ESPNEWS:

* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.

* Unless a team presents a deal with Tom Brady or Matt Cassel heading to Denver, the Broncos don't have any intentions of trading Cutler - even if he doesn't show for mandatory functions. Said the only QB's McDaniels would value over Cutler were Brady and Cassel because of their knowledge of the offense, though he joked he doubts they'd hang up the phone on Indianapolis for a Peyton Manning deal.

* Said the Jets and Titans would likely be the teams most interested in Cutler but neither has much to offer the Broncos that's inciting.

* Officials from the Packers have reached out to the Broncos for advice in dealing with Cutler's agent Bus Cook.

* The Browns are being speculated quite a bit because of Brady Quinn, but from what Mort understands - the Broncos aren't interested in Quinn and the Browns have little interest in Cutler.

* Finished up saying the saga is likely to drag on but the Broncos are optimistic they can get Cutler to sit down one-on-one with Josh McDaniels if he reports for the mandatory mini-camp and they can move on to repair the relationship. He noted that McDaniels appears genuinely disappointed that the situation had gotten to this point and remains a bit confused as to how the two sides are coming away with such different impressions from the events.
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that tells me all I need to know right there, Denver will sit and let Jay cut his own throat or play for us next year
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From the same guy who had Mike Shanahan heading to Kansas City to coach the Chiefs and the Broncos chasing the Patriots with the #12 pick desperate for Matt Cassel! Chris Mortensen with a few nuggets on ESPNEWS:

* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.

* Unless a team presents a deal with Tom Brady or Matt Cassel heading to Denver, the Broncos don't have any intentions of trading Cutler - even if he doesn't show for mandatory functions. Said the only QB's McDaniels would value over Cutler were Brady and Cassel because of their knowledge of the offense, though he joked he doubts they'd hang up the phone on Indianapolis for a Peyton Manning deal.

* Said the Jets and Titans would likely be the teams most interested in Cutler but neither has much to offer the Broncos that's inciting.

* Officials from the Packers have reached out to the Broncos for advice in dealing with Cutler's agent Bus Cook.

* The Browns are being speculated quite a bit because of Brady Quinn, but from what Mort understands - the Broncos aren't interested in Quinn and the Browns have little interest in Cutler.

* Finished up saying the saga is likely to drag on but the Broncos are optimistic they can get Cutler to sit down one-on-one with Josh McDaniels if he reports for the mandatory mini-camp and they can move on to repair the relationship. He noted that McDaniels appears genuinely disappointed that the situation had gotten to this point and remains a bit confused as to how the two sides are coming away with such different impressions from the events.


I knew I liked Green Bay for some reason...that just strikes me as completely funny.


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Old 03-23-2009, 12:47 PM   #4
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:47 PM   #5
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* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.
There seems to be confusion about who the player they are negotiating with is. Some say it is Jason Smith, but lets see.
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* Finished up saying the saga is likely to drag on but the Broncos are optimistic they can get Cutler to sit down one-on-one with Josh McDaniels if he reports for the mandatory mini-camp and they can move on to repair the relationship. He noted that McDaniels appears genuinely disappointed that the situation had gotten to this point and remains a bit confused as to how the two sides are coming away with such different impressions from the events.
Jay and Josh really just need to go play some beer pong together.
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So this means he will be traded . Mort is never right.
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Jay and Josh really just need to go play some beer pong together.
But then they will catch Herpes.....
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But then they will catch Herpes.....
Nooooo, Jay will get Aids from the Cobra that attacked Josh
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I knew I liked Green Bay for some reason...that just strikes me as completely funny.



what's their advice? send him hunting with Dick Cheney
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So we are getting Tom Brady + a 1st for Jay.
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that tells me all I need to know right there, Denver will sit and let Jay cut his own throat or play for us next year
Why would the Packers even bother to do this? There is nothing in it for them at all.
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Everything Mort says here is reasonable and believable. And it also further leads to the conclusion that this whole thing was much ado about almost nothing and all the drama queens need to relax and give McDaniels a chance. Other than treating Jay like an adult he really didn't do anything "wrong" so let's dispense with the cute nicknames already!
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If one looks at this objectively, the Broncos know there is no trade that will be that enticing for Cutler. Teams needing a QB simply do not have much the Broncos would want and they do not plan to just give him away either. Nothing has happened to this point at least where the Broncos are desperate to make a deal and get anything. Of course, that's been the case all along, but the "fire McDaniels" crowd couldn't see or understand that.
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what's their advice? send him hunting with Dick Cheney

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Why would the Packers even bother to do this? There is nothing in it for them at all.
It has been reported, if I remember correctly, than Tennessee did the same for Green Bay when the pack was dealing with the Favre/Cook mess.
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Why would the Packers even bother to do this? There is nothing in it for them at all.
I equate this to a guy dogging some chick

she will warn every other woman in the universe that will listen, and even go out of her way to do so in order to get the guy back
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From the same guy who had Mike Shanahan heading to Kansas City to coach the Chiefs and the Broncos chasing the Patriots with the #12 pick desperate for Matt Cassel! Chris Mortensen with a few nuggets on ESPNEWS:

* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.

* Unless a team presents a deal with Tom Brady or Matt Cassel heading to Denver, the Broncos don't have any intentions of trading Cutler - even if he doesn't show for mandatory functions. Said the only QB's McDaniels would value over Cutler were Brady and Cassel because of their knowledge of the offense, though he joked he doubts they'd hang up the phone on Indianapolis for a Peyton Manning deal.

* Said the Jets and Titans would likely be the teams most interested in Cutler but neither has much to offer the Broncos that's inciting.

* Officials from the Packers have reached out to the Broncos for advice in dealing with Cutler's agent Bus Cook.

* The Browns are being speculated quite a bit because of Brady Quinn, but from what Mort understands - the Broncos aren't interested in Quinn and the Browns have little interest in Cutler.

* Finished up saying the saga is likely to drag on but the Broncos are optimistic they can get Cutler to sit down one-on-one with Josh McDaniels if he reports for the mandatory mini-camp and they can move on to repair the relationship. He noted that McDaniels appears genuinely disappointed that the situation had gotten to this point and remains a bit confused as to how the two sides are coming away with such different impressions from the events.
That's the reason why the Lions will never be a good organization. They would rather have an unproven rookie as opposed to a proven pro-bowl Qb. Hahaha.
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From the same guy who had Mike Shanahan heading to Kansas City to coach the Chiefs and the Broncos chasing the Patriots with the #12 pick desperate for Matt Cassel! Chris Mortensen with a few nuggets on ESPNEWS:

* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.

* Unless a team presents a deal with Tom Brady or Matt Cassel heading to Denver, the Broncos don't have any intentions of trading Cutler - even if he doesn't show for mandatory functions. Said the only QB's McDaniels would value over Cutler were Brady and Cassel because of their knowledge of the offense, though he joked he doubts they'd hang up the phone on Indianapolis for a Peyton Manning deal.

* Said the Jets and Titans would likely be the teams most interested in Cutler but neither has much to offer the Broncos that's inciting.

* Officials from the Packers have reached out to the Broncos for advice in dealing with Cutler's agent Bus Cook.


* The Browns are being speculated quite a bit because of Brady Quinn, but from what Mort understands - the Broncos aren't interested in Quinn and the Browns have little interest in Cutler.

* Finished up saying the saga is likely to drag on but the Broncos are optimistic they can get Cutler to sit down one-on-one with Josh McDaniels if he reports for the mandatory mini-camp and they can move on to repair the relationship. He noted that McDaniels appears genuinely disappointed that the situation had gotten to this point and remains a bit confused as to how the two sides are coming away with such different impressions from the events.
Seems like everyone is noticing that snippet. Should this be true, I would like to give Green Bay a big TY. Seriously **** Bus Cook. He's just a Grima Wormtongue.
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It has been reported, if I remember correctly, than Tennessee did the same for Green Bay when the pack was dealing with the Favre/Cook mess.
That's correct. Teams, especially across conference, like to develop good rapport with others. It can be beneficial down the line for any number of situations. Under the Shanahan regime, I remember reading we had really good relationships with the 49ers, Packers and Redskins.
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That's the reason why the Lions will never be a good organization. They would rather have an unproven rookie as opposed to a proven pro-bowl Qb. Hahaha.


Or the probowl QB is not available.


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...but the "fire McDaniels" crowd couldn't see or understand that.
The Shanahanistas latched onto this story like pit bulls on a meaty bone. They were looking for any excuse to crucify the guy who dared to replace their coaching idol. If not this then it would have been something else, and after this they'll find something else to beeatch about. They won't give McD a break until the day he hoists the Lombardi, and if he does it soon they'll say he did it with Shanny's players...
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* It's believed the Lions have begun negotiations with Matthew Stafford to be the #1 pick in the draft. Said they were lukewarm on Jay Cutler and speculated they prefer Stafford.
With the bust rate of top 10 QBs being enormously high--particularly when you break it down to junior QBs, where the success rate is pretty much nil in the last decade--I have a hard time believing this. I have been as critical of Cutler as anyone during this fiasco that he's caused, but he's at least proven to be a 2nd tier level QB, with the potential to take it up a step or two up. Stafford is nothing but potential at this point, at a position where the investment usually does not pan out at even a respectable level.
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With the bust rate of top 10 QBs being enormously high--particularly when you break it down to junior QBs, where the success rate is pretty much nil in the last decade--I have a hard time believing this. I have been as critical of Cutler as anyone during this fiasco that he's caused, but he's at least proven to be a 2nd tier level QB, with the potential to take it up a step or two up. Stafford is nothing but potential at this point, at a position where the investment usually does not pan out at even a respectable level.
It's total insanity when you factor in the contract, too. Of course, it is the Lions...
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