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View Poll Results: Why does Glenfiddich Bowlen say he doesnt remember making assurances to Jay?
He didnt actually make assurances. 19 20.00%
He cant remember because he was drunk. 26 27.37%
He is trying to save face by not admitting he knowingly lied. 50 52.63%
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:49 AM   #1
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:51 AM   #2
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these polls are so stupid its unbelievable. yes, we all know enough about that specific situation to have ANY input on why he said it. dumbass.
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D. Because Cutler and Cook are full of ****, and a meeting never actually took place.

I'll choose D.
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Is Bowlen actually an alcoholic?
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D. Because Cutler and Cook are full of ****, and a meeting never actually took place.

I'll choose D.


That would be choice A, knucklehead.
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these polls are so stupid its unbelievable. yes, we all know enough about that specific situation to have ANY input on why he said it. dumbass.
damn ...... I agree with this take ........ something is ****ed up...... maybe you are sober
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Bowlen said Wednesday afternoon that he did not recall meeting with Cutler during the coaching search. Cutler left Denver the day before Mike Shanahan was fired and did not return until February.
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D. Because Cutler and Cook are full of ****, and a meeting never actually took place.

I'll choose D.
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ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen
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Unfortunately Pat himself said that they did meet. It's pat versus Pat everyone.
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Couple of possibilities. 1. Maybe he didnt. 2. You remember every little thing you say?


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ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen


Phone conversation not a sitdown as stated by Bus/Cutler.

Cutler left Denver the day before Mike Shanahan was fired and did not return until February.
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ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen
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That would be choice A, knucklehead.
That's "Chucklehead" to you, good sir.
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ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen
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I voted "Didn't actually make assurances." I think Bowlen said some generic, encouraging things to Jay about "not changing" the offense immediately after firing Shanahan. But Jay took him too literally, and expanded what Pat said after the fact in his hopeful mind.

Pat then started searching for a coach, didn't think much about what he told Jay, and hired an offensive guy. Then Jay - over-remembering what Pat had said - was surprised when Jeremy was fired and the offense was scrapped (even so, Jay came in and was by all accounts ready to learn the offense and go at it).

Bowlen is so very highly deferential to coaches, we've seen that all along. So I doubt he made a real ASSURANCE the offense would "remain the same." It's so out of character for a guy who gives his coaches - Reeves, Shanahan and now Josh - blanket authority on all football matters.
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ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen
And? He's the man here now. The quarterback of a football team is generally the man, but he still has to do what the coach says.

As usual, frerotte, you read into everything too much.
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And? He's the man here now. The quarterback of a football team is generally the man, but he still has to do what the coach says.

As usual, frerotte, you read into everything too much.
I can see how he would think he wouldn't be traded by those words, since Pat essentially said that.
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Phone conversation not a sitdown as stated by Bus/Cutler.

Cutler left Denver the day before Mike Shanahan was fired and did not return until February.
The issue is not whether it was a phone call or an actual sit-down meeting in person.

The issue is this: Bowlen right after it happened, admitted that they talked over the phone....

ďI talked to Jay Cutler, and Jay understood the conversation. I talked to him this morning. I didnít get any negative feedback. I think he understands enough about the business of football, the game of football, that there are going to be coaching changes and changes in organizations. I didnít sense that Jay had any negative feelings about it, and Iím sure he is very interested in who is going to be the next head coach. Obviously, he is the man around here now, so I will be talking with Jay.Ē - Pat Bowlen

now he's saying they never even spoke (or "he doesn't remember it").

Bowlen said on Wednesday afternoon: "I really have had no discussion with Jay or the agent. Mike was fired right after the season. At that point, there was no need to have a discussion with Jay. Now, actually, to be fair, I don't think I had that discussion. I don't recall it. I know I'm getting up there in age, and I am not sure of that discussion."

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Hmm, I don't remember all this fan hatred and slime-ball smear attacks on Pat Bowlen back in 1998 and 1999.
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Hmm, I don't remember all this fan hatred and slime-ball smear attacks on Pat Bowlen back in 1998 and 1999.
I can. People have been calling him a drunk, making fun of his fur coats, etc. since before then....
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what does this agenda against Bowlen actually solve?

seriously, nothing
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what does this agenda against Bowlen actually solve?

seriously, nothing
Name one (football related) post on the Mane that has ever really solved anything.

In case you are confused, it's not our jobs to solve anything.
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