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Old 03-18-2009, 12:17 AM   #1
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“Just how he handles business, the way he goes about treating everybody the same. Not showing favoritism to any one player who is supposed to be, I guess, a ‘star,’” Gaffney said. “They don’t care. They want a team. A team to go out there and win. Because the individuals won’t win.”

On the other hand, Eddie Royal spoke out in favor of Cutler on 104 the Fan yesterday (Tuesday the 17th).


These are just minor signals of what is going on in the locker room right now. Whether Cutler stays or Cutler goes, the locker room is going to be split. I think it will be easier to mend the problems in the locker room without Cutler on the team, as much as I hate to say it.
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Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room. No one likes a guy who thinks he is above the team.
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What did Eddie have to say yesterday?
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Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room. No one likes a guy who thinks he is above the team.


I've done some investigating on this very issue, as I think it's the most important one. I know that you're not going to believe it, but from what I've been told, the pulse of the locker room is largely in Jay's favor, with the exception of a handful of the defenders (including Champ, who it's said doesn't care much for Cutler), and the new guys who McDaniels brought in.

Basically the locker room is split, as anyone might be able to guess.
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Jabbar is so bug eyed I doubt he could pick Cutler out of a line up ...
Doubt him and Cutler have ever spoke ...

Wrs should be born with no mouths, 6 fingers and 5 balls ...
Then they would shut up , catch the ball , and not cry about going over the middle ..
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Again, people are going to read this however they want.

I can believe the locker room is split, to an extent. I will say, this is the second person who's spoken publicly (player) and shown a little distaste for Cutler's actions through their words. (However tactful it may have been.)

Those dudes in the locker room are just people. So, varying opinion is to be expected, but I'll tell you what.. the more this goes on, the more this grates on people, and those on the fence are going to grow very tired of a prima donna who doesn't want to play with them commanding all of this attention.
You can already feel that in some of the comments of players who have NOT spoken on this situation.

The longer this goes, the more players in that locker room are going to realize Jay Cutler has deserted them... and they're left to make the best situation of what they have. Human nature is going to leave a lot, if not most of these guys bitter at Cutler, imo... and MIGHT even light a little extra fire under them to prove something without Jay this season.

Mark my words, you WILL hear a player at some point this season reference the fact that the world was writing them off without Cutler. Guarantee you... that's not sitting well.
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I've done some investigating on this very issue, as I think it's the most important one. I know that you're not going to believe it, but from what I've been told, the pulse of the locker room is largely in Jay's favor, with the exception of a handful of the defenders (including Champ, who it's said doesn't care much for Cutler), and the new guys who McDaniels brought in.

Basically the locker room is split, as anyone might be able to guess.
OK, I can buy that overall opinion may be split FOR NOW, but I'm fairly confident that as this progress that players will get tired of hearing about Jay Cutler and how much they need him.
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Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room. No one likes a guy who thinks he is above the team.
Um... Gaffney is a newcomer to the Bronco locker room and has yet to even meet Jay Cutler as a teammate.....
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Jabbar is so bug eyed I doubt he could pick Cutler out of a line up ...
Doubt him and Cutler have ever spoke ...

Wrs should be born with no mouths, 6 fingers and 5 balls ...
Then they would shut up , catch the ball , and not cry about going over the middle ..
Nah, Jabbar Gaffney just knows what a real star looks like, that's all. He also knows how they act.

Crying? He's just calling them like he sees them. This guy understands the TEAM concept. You can hear it in every word he speaks. Come to think of it, you can hear it in pretty much anyone's words who's come from that culture of winning in NE.

So, you can continue to shoot the messenger, but this litany of pros are calling Cutler out for a reason.
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Um... Gaffney is a newcomer to the Bronco locker room and has yet to even meet Jay Cutler as a teammate.....
Yea, well... that's because Jay didn't get a treat in his Happy Meal and is taking a time-out. (Permanently.)
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Yea, well... that's because Jay didn't get a treat in his Happy Meal and is taking a time-out. (Permanently.)
So after what? 2 days in Dove Valley, Gaffney's suddenly an expert on the consensus of opinion in the locker room? I'd say NOT...
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Um... Gaffney is a newcomer to the Bronco locker room and has yet to even meet Jay Cutler as a teammate.....
Yeah, but Jabbar has played with an ACTUAL franchise QB, not a faux franchise QB, so I suspect he knows pretty well what to look for in a leader.
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So after what? 2 days in Dove Valley, Gaffney's suddenly an expert on the consensus of opinion in the locker room? I'd say NOT...
That's weird, I didn't read that he said that in his comment.

Can you show me where he said that?

Wow, I still don't see that he said he was an "expert on locker room opinion."
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So, you can continue to shoot the messenger, but this litany of pros are calling Cutler out for a reason.
Just as the litany of pros are backing Cutler's position up for a reason? Tuesday was brutal for the organization in this regard.
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Just as the litany of pros are backing Cutler's position up for a reason? Tuesday was brutal for the organization in this regard.
Really? I haven't read any pros saying that he shouldn't report and that deserting his teammates is the right thing to do.

I guess I've missed that.
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I've done some investigating on this very issue, as I think it's the most important one. I know that you're not going to believe it, but from what I've been told, the pulse of the locker room is largely in Jay's favor, with the exception of a handful of the defenders (including Champ, who it's said doesn't care much for Cutler), and the new guys who McDaniels brought in.

Basically the locker room is split, as anyone might be able to guess.
Huh thats funny I've done my own and its about 2/3rds against Cutler.
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Just as the litany of pros are backing Cutler's position up for a reason? Tuesday was brutal for the organization in this regard.
Give the names. Where are they? I've heard the vast majority of ex-players telling Cutler to suck it up and get to work. The Broncos who have spoken up have been like Gaffney and Peterson...we aren't worrying about (with a hint of annoyance).
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Give the names. Where are they? I've heard the vast majority of ex-players telling Cutler to suck it up and get to work. The Broncos who have spoken up have been like Gaffney and Peterson...we aren't worrying about (with a hint of annoyance).
Even the guys who put the blame on the organization (and they are few)... still say Jay should report and be a man.
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That's weird, I didn't read that he said that in his comment.

Can you show me where he said that?

Wow, I still don't see that he said he was an "expert on locker room opinion."
"Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room."
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"Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room."
No, no... Blueflame... no, no.

WHERE DID GAFFNEY SAY HE WAS AN EXPERT ON LOCKER ROOM OPINION?
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"Gaffney has what is probably the overall pulse of the locker room."
Yeah. That's my opinion. And, given the overall comments that have been made by both ex-NFL players and current Broncos, I think it's probably an accurate one.
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