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View Poll Results: Who is to blame for this getting out of hand?
Coach McDaniels and Staff: They should have averted this and reached out to Cutler 139 51.67%
Cutler and his agent: If they wanted Jay to be a Bronco, he would be honoring his contract. 130 48.33%
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:22 PM   #1
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So, now that the two sides have reached an impasse, where do you feel the blame sits for this situation ending up where it has?
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Bus and Jay. Easy.

If he really wanted to be here, he would have come to the table after it was said (twice, in three days) that Cutler would not be traded. Period. He wouldn't have whined through the media to act as if he was being mistreated, he wouldn't have put his houses up for sale. He just wouldn't have done those things.

Let him rot on the bench.
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I would like to have a choice of Bus Cook. Based on what everyone is saying Jay was on board and wanted a few hours to "think about it", more like consult my agent on how to spin this into inreconcileable differences.

Also I'm wondering why Pat changed his mind about Jay being "the man around here".
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So Bowlen, isn't taken into account? McD / Cutler feud will cost him Millions?
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Bus Cook. The new contract talk should settle who's to blame. Who has something to gain, here? It isn't McD.
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Bus Cook. The new contract talk should settle who's to blame. Who has something to gain, here? It isn't McD.


There would be no new contract talk if the genie had been kept in the lamp.
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So Bowlen, isn't taken into account? McD / Cutler feud will cost him Millions?
Or save him millions.
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I would like to have a choice of Bus Cook. Based on what everyone is saying Jay was on board and wanted a few hours to "think about it", more like consult my agent on how to spin this into inreconcileable differences. .
It's in the option, Jay and his agent.

They showed up to the meetings together, so they pretty much operate as one person.

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There would be no new contract talk if the genie had been kept in the lamp.
There MIGHT HAVE BEEN contract talk if he'd gone about this the right way: IE, talking to the FO and McD in private about what he'd need to feel comfortable.

Putting his house up for sale and running to every media outlet possible is NOT a mature, business-like way of handling things.
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I blame everyone at this point. Everybody's f'ed up in some way here.
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There would be no new contract talk if the genie had been kept in the lamp.
Are you really suggesting that Bus Cook wasn't trying to leverage the situation into getting a new contract? The situation was irresolvable once the notion of a new contract entered Cook's and Cutler's mind. It doesn't matter who was at fault, as they both saw a wedge to negotiate a new deal.

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After every conversation between the team and the player the player goes and runs to the press. The player has an agenda here. I know I am going a little Parcells here.

He wants a new contract. Fine, nobody would be upset with that if he just said if the team can treat this as a business than he can too, but he isn't. He is running his mouth about how butthurt he is.
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Are you really suggesting that Bus Cook wasn't trying to leverage the situation into getting a new contract? The situation was irresolvable once the notion of a new contract entered Cook's and Cutler's mind. It doesn't matter who was at fault, as they both so a wedge to negotiate a new deal.

That's not what I suggested at all. I'm certain that now that Bus Cook is involved, he's angling for the Broncos to show Cutler the "security." McDaniels rubbed the magic lamp, and let the genie out of the bottle. Bus Cook is the genie.
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Or save him millions.
Save millions how so By getting rid of Coach with Hall of fame credential and getting OC to learn coaching. That's seems like setting McD in a position to fail!
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That's not what I suggested at all. I'm certain that now that Bus Cook is involved, he's angling for the Broncos to show Cutler the "security." McDaniels rubbed the magic lamp, and let the genie out of the bottle. Bus Cook is the genie.
Do you believe there was ever a way for McD to resolve the situation once the initial "genie" was released (i.e. that a trade was in the works)?
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I believe Jay was wronged when he was led to believe that Cutler was the Man in Denver. But throw everyone in the front office under the "Bus (Cook)" and I now side with the Broncos. Honor your contract and you can leave when it is up. I dont think we can afford to go into the season with Simms or drafted rookie. We have other needs come the NFL Draft and this team needs to get turned around asap so I am not sure on fining him everyday he doesnt show to mini camp. It could be a costly bluff for the 2009 season.
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Since when isn't Jay honoring his contract? Didn't he say he would be there when he's contractually obligated to (which is not now)?
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Save millions how so By getting rid of Coach with Hall of fame credential and getting OC to learn coaching. That's seems like setting McD in a position to fail!
It was a reference to Cutlerbus holding the organization at gunpoint for a massive contract extension, which is likely what this is all about.
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I also think jay is afraid McD will actually hold him accountable. He was the man in college and Shanny molly coddled him.
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Since when isn't Jay honoring his contract? Didn't he say he would be there when he's contractually obligated to (which is not now)?
Not showing up for team meetings and demanding a trade would be your first hint.
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Do you believe there was ever a way for McD to resolve the situation once the initial "genie" was released (i.e. that a trade was in the works)?

No. I've been very upfront that I don't think this situation is going to work out since it first started.
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Since when isn't Jay honoring his contract? Didn't he say he would be there when he's contractually obligated to (which is not now)?
Uh... well... he has asked to be traded. And left Denver intentionally just to not attend the mandatory meeting and workouts. Do you really think he'll show for minicamp? He's contractually obligated to do so.
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your poll is missing one option: both.
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Uh... well... he has asked to be traded. And left Denver intentionally just to not attend the mandatory meeting and workouts. Do you really think he'll show for minicamp? He's contractually obligated to do so.
This meeting wasn't contractually mandatory, and it would have broken the CBA to make it mandatory. Jay has said he'll show up to any of the manditory camps in April. I suppose we'll see about that.
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