We should of hired Spagnuolo - The Orange Mane

Punisher · 03-14-2009, 03:39 PM

I know for a fact he would of fixed the defense and kept Bates,and oh yea not turn our team into the Denver Patriots.Pat Bowen made a bad move,everyone in Denver and the United States knows that all we needed was a good Defense,not try to trade our Franchise quarterback for a one year wonder.If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in Bronco history!

SoCalBronco · 03-14-2009, 03:41 PM

Pretty much any of the main candidates out there would have been an improvement over what we have now.

Inkana7 · 03-14-2009, 03:41 PM

Whaa.

UberBroncoMan · 03-14-2009, 03:41 PM

Spag or Rex Ryan would have been nice. I feel confident that we would have been fine on offense with Bates calling the plays for his second year. With a healthy running game and another year to grow we would have fixed the Red Zone issue.

spdirty · 03-14-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in NFL history!

Fixed.

Hogan11 · 03-14-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

I know for a fact he would of fixed the defense and kept Bates,and oh yea not turn our team into the Denver Patriots.Pat Bowen made a bad move,everyone in Denver and the United States knows that all we needed was a good Defense,not try to trade our Franchise quarterback for a one year wonder.If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in Bronco history!

I wanted Spagnuolo and was not overly happy when McDaniels was selected, but there's no indication that Spagnuolo would've left well enough alone on offense. Afterall, he's already sent Holt and Pace packing in St. Louis and those guys were sacred cows there.

SureShot · 03-14-2009, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

I wanted Spagnuolo and was not overly happy when McDaniels was selected, but there's no indication that Spagnuolo would've left well enough alone on offense. Afterall, he's already sent Holt and Pace packing in St. Louis and those guys were sacred cows there.

The only deference being that those two are past their prime and injury prone.

The MVPlaya · 03-14-2009, 03:48 PM

Yeah, it's not too early at all. And if McDaniels does a good, job, ya'll will be lickin his balls like b****es.

Idiots run the mane.

wandlc · 03-14-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan

Spag or Rex Ryan would have been nice. I feel confident that we would have been fine on offense with Bates calling the plays for his second year. With a healthy running game and another year to grow we would have fixed the Red Zone issue.

A healthy RB would have fixed the "redzone" issue. Until Hillis got hurt the Broncos were 8th in the league in redzone efficiency. I am getting tired of people having a pet game stat or selective memory, that they push to make their point, instead of actually knowing what happened.

Hogan11 · 03-14-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SureShot

The only deference being that those two are past their prime and injury prone.

The point was that the whole "no one is untouchable" attitude would've came with him here as well.

Punisher · 03-14-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

I wanted Spagnuolo and was not overly happy when McDaniels was selected, but there's no indication that Spagnuolo would've left well enough alone on offense. Afterall, he's already sent Holt and Pace packing in St. Louis and those guys were sacred cows there.

Pace and Holt were getting old and i don't think Spag would send Marshall and Clady packing...

Wes Mantooth · 03-14-2009, 04:04 PM

At this point, I think Cutler was and is a timebomb. He was looking for an excuse to create this situation.

barryr · 03-14-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth

At this point, I think Cutler was and is a timebomb. He was looking for an excuse to create this situation.

I agree with you. Reportedly Cutler wasn't happy with Shanahan and Bates being gone and I believe Cutler is looking for any reason to be mad at with the current coach and regime.

A coach stating he wants his QB to reduce turnovers hardly warrants a response of anger from the QB.

But they are actions of someone who lacks maturity however and upset he didn't get his way.

MechanicalBull · 03-14-2009, 04:14 PM

How does anyone know for a fact what 2 first time coaches will do?
Yes I wanted Spags over McDaniels but to say he would've done this and that is stupid.

Of course I wish things were handled differently between McDaniels and Cutler and think both are wrong in some aspects but if he makes the D respectable and brings this team to a 10-6/11-5 record with a possible playoff berth I think a lot of people on here will be singing a different tune.

BMarsh615 · 03-14-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

I know for a fact he would of fixed the defense and kept Bates,and oh yea not turn our team into the Denver Patriots.Pat Bowen made a bad move,everyone in Denver and the United States knows that all we needed was a good Defense,not try to trade our Franchise quarterback for a one year wonder.If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in Bronco history!

100% agree. We wouldn't have to blow EVERYTHING up under Spags on defense. I think Jarvis Moss, Marcus Thomas, Tim Crowder, Carlton Powell, and Dumervil would have benefited greatly from Spags.

And Cutler wouldn't be crying because Jeremy Bates probably would still be our offensive coordinator.

Spags was my first choice after Shanahan got fired and McDaniels and Jason Garrett were the LAST 2 people I wanted to see Denver go after.

UberBroncoMan · 03-14-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr

I agree with you. Reportedly Cutler wasn't happy with Shanahan and Bates being gone and I believe Cutler is looking for any reason to be mad at with the current coach and regime.

A coach stating he wants his QB to reduce turnovers hardly warrants a response of anger from the QB.

But they are actions of someone who lacks maturity however and upset he didn't get his way.

I still feel that a lot of this has to do with Bus Cook milking the situation for all it's worth.

barryr · 03-14-2009, 04:17 PM

Not to mention defensive-minded head coaches are especially concerned with having a QB who commits turnovers and puts the defense in bad spots and most times, like to run more conservative type offenses. Would Cutler be happy with that?

GreatBronco16 · 03-14-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Pat Bowen made a bad move,everyone in Denver and the United States knows that all we needed was a good Defense,not try to trade our Franchise quarterback for a one year wonder.If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in Bronco history!

Punisher · 03-14-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr

Not to mention defensive-minded head coaches are especially concerned with having a QB who commits turnovers and puts the defense in bad spots and most times, like to run more conservative type offenses. Would Cutler be happy with that?

Last Year our Defense put us in a bad spot by just showing up,Cutler had to drop 30 to win like 6 or 7 games.I say 8 of his 18 INT was trying to bring the team back.

Beantown Bronco · 03-14-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

I know for a fact he would of fixed the defense and kept Bates

no you don't.

barryr · 03-14-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Punisher

Last Year our Defense put us in a bad spot by just showing up,Cutler had to drop 30 to win like 6 or 7 games.I say 8 of his 18 INT was trying to bring the team back.

You aren't going to get me to defend the crappy defense. But I find it amazing people actually believe because the Broncos were to have hired someone else that Cutler would be automatically happy and that somehow know that Bates would have been kept. Like anyone knows that and like I stated, defensive-minded head coaches tend not to be pass-happy and tend to value QB's more who do not rurn the ball over than ones that put up big numbers.

Beantown Bronco · 03-14-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by barryr

A coach stating he wants his QB to reduce turnovers hardly warrants a response of anger from the QB.

Good luck finding a quote from Cutler about this. You are taking a third party report with no quotes or even a hint of a substantiated report as gospel. Bad call right there.

Bronco Yoda · 03-14-2009, 04:28 PM

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Whaa.

ok, this looks so much like my oldest one at this age... it's a little creepy.

Punisher · 03-14-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

no you don't.

I'm a psychic trust me i know.

broncofan7 · 03-14-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hogan11

I wanted Spagnuolo and was not overly happy when McDaniels was selected, but there's no indication that Spagnuolo would've left well enough alone on offense. Afterall, he's already sent Holt and Pace packing in St. Louis and those guys were sacred cows there.

Holt wanted out even last year and I'm not sure that Pace was too keen on staying in STL either..
BTW --we almost like the same teams---HUGE Flyers fan here too--But I like the Orioles in Baseball

03-14-2009, 03:39 PM	#1
Punisher ® You Tell The NFL! We're coming for That Belt! WOOOOO® Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Broncos Video Vault Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: i4jelway7	We should of hired Spagnuolo I know for a fact he would of fixed the defense and kept Bates,and oh yea not turn our team into the Denver Patriots.Pat Bowen made a bad move,everyone in Denver and the United States knows that all we needed was a good Defense,not try to trade our Franchise quarterback for a one year wonder.If Mcdickhole trades Cutler it will be one of the worst moves in Bronco history!

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UberBroncoMan Your Local Nostradamus 2013... the year of Sci-Fi! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,528 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Spag or Rex Ryan would have been nice. I feel confident that we would have been fine on offense with Bates calling the plays for his second year. With a healthy running game and another year to grow we would have fixed the Red Zone issue.

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The MVPlaya Denver Broncos out with the old, IN WITH THE NEW Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 5,384	Yeah, it's not too early at all. And if McDaniels does a good, job, ya'll will be lickin his balls like b****es. Idiots run the mane.

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Wes Mantooth Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,456	At this point, I think Cutler was and is a timebomb. He was looking for an excuse to create this situation.

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MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	How does anyone know for a fact what 2 first time coaches will do? Yes I wanted Spags over McDaniels but to say he would've done this and that is stupid. Of course I wish things were handled differently between McDaniels and Cutler and think both are wrong in some aspects but if he makes the D respectable and brings this team to a 10-6/11-5 record with a possible playoff berth I think a lot of people on here will be singing a different tune.

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barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,269 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Not to mention defensive-minded head coaches are especially concerned with having a QB who commits turnovers and puts the defense in bad spots and most times, like to run more conservative type offenses. Would Cutler be happy with that?