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Old 03-12-2009, 01:02 PM   #1
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:22 PM   #2
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I'm not afraid to go at it with Chris Simms.

Anybody ready to go to camp with Simms as the starter?
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:24 PM   #3
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Too bad we may never know just how good Cutler could have been here.

Sims would be perfect for a new regeime in rebuilding mode. He will want to do everything they ask and he may do Ok.

Time will tell.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:29 PM   #4
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with this offensive line, simms would be on his way up in this league, IMO. will he be as good as cutler? all things being equal, the jury's still out but my gut (which simms had removed, i believe) says he won't be.

keep cutler if his head and heart are in it for the broncos. if not, cut bait and use simms as a bridge to a guy like stafford.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:29 PM   #5
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Too bad we may never know just how good Cutler could have been here.

Sims would be perfect for a new regeime in rebuilding mode. He will want to do everything they ask and he may do Ok.

Time will tell.
I can't see the video you are talking like Cutler is leaving?
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:34 PM   #6
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I do not see where we are getting rid of Jay per his interview
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #7
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Too bad we may never know just how good Cutler could have been here.

Sims would be perfect for a new regeime in rebuilding mode. He will want to do everything they ask and he may do Ok.

Time will tell.
Cmon Mr optimist. Is someone having a rough week? If Mcnabb can stay in Philly after what he has been put through I'd say Cutler can toughen up and play for the Broncos.
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I do not see where we are getting rid of Jay per his interview

no, the hypothetical was posed on whether simms could be productive should jay be traded.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #9
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Yeah!

Jay = Simms

Seems everyone has something to say about this situation these days when they know nothing of whats really going on.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:35 PM   #10
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This interview is just a coach saying pretty positive things about both guys. Sounds like he doesn't want to get involved in the controversy.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:36 PM   #11
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Who ever thought we'd be talking about freaking Simms as our starting QB in 09. /puke
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:46 PM   #13
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I sure hope Simms isn't starting next season. He's not as good as Jay, though what he lacks in spleen he makes up for in pancreas.
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I can't see the video, but based on what y'all said. I'd rather have Cutler.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:51 PM   #15
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I saw that interview last night or this morning but I did like what that guy had to say about Simms. Really talked up his desire and will to fight his way back into the league. Said he looked really good in practice by the end of the year.

Question if his **** didnt stink why is he not on their roster

Enough said.
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If McDaniels can transform Cassel into an NFL million dollar starting QB I like our chances with either Cutler or Simms. The egos have to go and this means McDaniels as well.
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Question if his **** didnt stink why is he not on their roster Enough said.
Exactly. And why did Gruden - noted quarterback lover - let him go so easy? And why did he have a somewhat tough time hooking up with a team last year?

I'm actually pretty jazzed he is our backup ... he's prolly better than Ramsey, and definitely better than BVP. But let's not confuse Simms with a guy who'll lead us to 12 wins just yet.
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Who ever thought we'd be talking about freaking Simms as our starting QB in 09. /puke
I want Cutler to be our starting Qb, and I think he is much better than Simms, but....

At least Simms has taken a team to the playoffs. Just sayin' - it's not like he doesn't have talent, he's just not as talented as Cutler.

But, neither is Philip Rivers, and once again - Philip has been much more successful than Jay.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:57 PM   #19
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Simms can't hold Jay's jock in terms of talent. If he was anything like his Dad though, McDaniels would be schmoozing all over him. That's exactly the kind of player this type of system likes.
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Old 03-12-2009, 02:04 PM   #20
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Exactly. And why did Gruden - noted quarterback lover - let him go so easy? And why did he have a somewhat tough time hooking up with a team last year?

I'm actually pretty jazzed he is our backup ... he's prolly better than Ramsey, and definitely better than BVP. But let's not confuse Simms with a guy who'll lead us to 12 wins just yet.
agreed to a point, now I'm a CU fan over CSU,,, (however my true college team is Notre Dame.... i know let the jokes fly) and I used to watch BVP single handedly keep them in games and even beat CU. The guy always struck me as a pissed off dude that hates being told he can't do something and lives to win. I really did like him when he was w/ the broncos and thought he might be a champ one day, but anyways,,,,,, I am totally off the Cutler Band wagon because of all this crap and him even thinking about not showing up Monday. And if he doesn't show up Monday, than put in Simms, and sit Cutler for the year. Don't even trade his ass, Keep him and sit him. Teach the baby a lesson if he doesn't show,,,, can I get a amen?
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Exactly. And why did Gruden - noted quarterback lover - let him go so easy? And why did he have a somewhat tough time hooking up with a team last year?

I'm actually pretty jazzed he is our backup ... he's prolly better than Ramsey, and definitely better than BVP. But let's not confuse Simms with a guy who'll lead us to 12 wins just yet.
The guy lost a spleen. I'm sure major surgeries like that take considerable recovery time, much like ACL's and Tommy John surgeries. This will be his second year back from it, so we should see marked improvements. Still, I'd like to see Jay get a chance to study up and run the offense before I put Simms in there.
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Exactly. And why did Gruden - noted quarterback lover - let him go so easy? And why did he have a somewhat tough time hooking up with a team last year?

I'm actually pretty jazzed he is our backup ... he's prolly better than Ramsey, and definitely better than BVP. But let's not confuse Simms with a guy who'll lead us to 12 wins just yet.
Gruden is a QB Collector but not lover. He was a dick to Garcia. He also was a total Jerk to Simms after his spleen injury and would not release him or let him compete for the QB Job. It was actually really strange.
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with this offensive line, simms would be on his way up in this league, IMO. will he be as good as cutler? all things being equal, the jury's still out but my gut (which simms had removed, i believe) says he won't be.

keep cutler if his head and heart are in it for the broncos. if not, cut bait and use simms as a bridge to a guy like stafford.
I dont get the trade Jay to draft Stafford logic. It makes ZERO sense. If you are gonna draft a 1st rounder, make the proven 1st rounder, thats already on your roster, play! If you trade Jay for a few pics, go with Simms, build the D, draft a QB in the mid rounds (whom JOsh feels he can coach up)
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I dont get the trade Jay to draft Stafford logic. It makes ZERO sense. If you are gonna draft a 1st rounder, make the proven 1st rounder, thats already on your roster, play! If you trade Jay for a few pics, go with Simms, build the D, draft a QB in the mid rounds (whom JOsh feels he can coach up)
If you have a qb who will pout and resent the fact that he's a Denver Bronco, you can force him to play but expect a poor performance. Plus, I didn't say it had to be Stafford, but rather a guy LIKE Stafford. I see your point, and realize Brady and Cassell are both late round picks.
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If you have a qb who will pout and resent the fact that he's a Denver Bronco, you can force him to play but expect a poor performance. Plus, I didn't say it had to be Stafford, but rather a guy LIKE Stafford. I see your point, and realize Brady and Cassell are both late round picks.
It makes no sense for Jay to play bad. 1) He's a competitor 2) to paraphrase a line from "Little Big League" (of all things) "whats the going rate for an absent minded QB that can't complete a pass" If he plays, i expect Jay to play hard and play well.

If youre gonna trade Jay, trade him to rebuild the D...not to draft someone who may or may not be like him...especially when QB's are so hard to scout.
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