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Old 03-11-2009, 06:36 PM   #1
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Default Would Detroit give their #1 for Cutler?

Purely out of curiosity. Again, I'm hoping he stays... but I just ran into a Detroit fan here at work. He said to me in the hall.... "Cutler and your #12 for the #1."

I laughed, then thought about it... would Detroit trade us straight across?

He says no. Of course, fans always overvalue their players and draft picks, but I wonder what the real value was.

I asked him why he thought Cutler wasn't worth the #1 after coming off of a Pro Bowl and he said "it looks like you have a malcontent on your hands."


What do you think? What's Cutler worth at this point... in reality, not homer-land... reality?
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:37 PM   #2
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If they would even consider drafting Stafford at #1, I'd sure as hell think they'd trade the #1 overall for a 25 year old Pro Bowl quarterback who knows what the league is about. . . even despite his silly**** behavior.
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I wouldn't trade him for the first pick in the draft straight up. Curry can't play QB for us and we don't really have an alternative at the most important position on the field.
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Purely out of curiosity. Again, I'm hoping he stays... but I just ran into a Detroit fan here at work.
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Cutler for the #1?

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Cutler for the #1 and #20?

Lemme think about it.
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IMO, Cutler is worth more than Stafford who they are considering at a overbloated price with the #1 pick. Jay is about as proven a product as you can have after 37 games, all things consider. If Detroit takes him, they basically skip the learning curve process in developing a QB and get a guy that instantly makes their offense dramatically better especially when considering that he'll be paired up with a top notch WR in Calvin Johnson and good young HB in Kevin Smith.

Detroit also still has a 1st round pick to fall back on in this scenario as well. It would make a lot of sense IMO.
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If they would even consider drafting Stafford at #1, I'd sure as hell think they'd trade the #1 overall for a 25 year old Pro Bowl quarterback who knows what the league is about. . . even despite his silly**** behavior.
I agree, I think any team in need of a QB would be willing to give up their #1 and more for Jay. He's a better risk than any of the QB's in this year's draft.
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Even funnier, my floor only has about 50 employees or so, and TWO of them are MAJOR Lions fans.... TWO!!!

They're both actually really great fans, actually. You have to be damned loyal to be a Lions fan.

Other than that, three major Cowboys fans.... and me.
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At this point, i would take the #1 pick. I'm resigned to the fact that Jay most likely will not be in Denver much longer. We might as well get value for him. #1 pick sounds fine to me. Too bad Bowlen might not have the cash to pony up for that selection.
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Cutler for the #1 and #20?

Lemme think about it.
No way in hell. Cutler has done too much damage, imo. His actions have emboldened teams to lower their offers, imo. He's single-handedly given other teams leverage to offer LESS for him.
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At this point, i would take the #1 pick. I'm resigned to the fact that Jay most likely will not be in Denver much longer. We might as well get value for him. #1 pick sounds fine to me. Too bad Bowlen might not have the cash to pony up for that selection.
I wouldn't want the #1 this year... but the #20 and a #1 next year becomes more interesting. That's if we HAVE to trade him.

I still think this all gets worked out.
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I'm going to ask the other Lion's fan if he'd take Cutler for the #1 on my way out...
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At this point, i would take the #1 pick.
Then who plays QB this season? You just can't make a deal like this no matter how down on Jay you are.
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As opposed to drafting Stafford or Sanchez, yes. Cutler is proven (whether you think he is great or mediocre, at least you know) and doesn't have the contract that #1 overall would ask for. Look at the guaranteed money Long got last year.

I think Detroit would say yes. I think they'd say yes to the #1 and another pick/player.

Two weeks ago as a Bronco fan I'd have said no. Now... I'm not sure.... Not because of Cutler per se, but the way things have transpired...

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The Lions would be foolish not to float that offer.

I sure hope it doesn't come down to us having to take such an offer now.

Come on Cutler, pull your head out and be the leader we all want you to be.
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Signing that number 1 would cost about what Washington guaranteed Haynesworth.

No.
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Then who plays QB this season? You just can't make a deal like this no matter how down on Jay you are.
Who's down on Jay? I'm pro Jay in all of this. I think he's gonna be a great QB. I just don't see this fractured relationship between McFuggit and Jay being repaired. Personally, i think Bowlen needs to make a choice.

Simms has starting experience. We could probably pick up another vet for competition on the market. I could see us jumping into the market for a QB in the first couple rounds if Cutler gets moved.
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:52 PM   #19
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If the Broncos (bone head and all) trade Jay, the Broncos will be 4-12 this coming season, and 6-10 the next, 7-9 and Bowlen will look for another coach.
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I hope Cutler shows up on Monday and all this fades away.

I think it is more than coin flip now that Cutler DOES get moved. I think that happens and Sparky is the assistant special teams coach for Southeast Alaska Tech in three years. And Cutler continues a promising career elsewhere.

Also, Matt Cassel will be bagging groceries in three years. But that wasn't the point of the thread.

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I'm not sure I'd want to pay all that $$$ to the number one overall. I think I'd rather have the #20 (from Dallas) and the first pick in the second round. Two picks in both the first and second rounds would be sweet.
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #22
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what kinda sense would that even make?...

trade a 25 yr old Pro Bowl proven commodity at QB just to pick an unknown commodity AT A MUCH HIGHER PRICE TAG?...

that's pure stupidity...

and even if we didn't take a QB with that pick, then who is our QB?...

in order to pull a trade for Cutler we will require a king's ransom which is what the going rate for a young franchise QB is...

their 1st and 20th and i'd THINK about it...
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:00 PM   #23
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Cutler + Calvin Johnson..... daaayumm!

That would be a dream gig for both guys.

Although I want Cutler to stay - don't get me wrong.
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If a Detriot fan says they wouldn't give up the #1 for Cutler then they are a fool.
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Purely out of curiosity. Again, I'm hoping he stays... but I just ran into a Detroit fan here at work. He said to me in the hall.... "Cutler and your #12 for the #1."

I laughed, then thought about it... would Detroit trade us straight across?

He says no. Of course, fans always overvalue their players and draft picks, but I wonder what the real value was.

I asked him why he thought Cutler wasn't worth the #1 after coming off of a Pro Bowl and he said "it looks like you have a malcontent on your hands."


What do you think? What's Cutler worth at this point... in reality, not homer-land... reality?

There are enough teams out there wanting talent like Jay's that his value is still very high despite him being a malcontent cry-baby. Any number of teams would bid his value up no matter how stupid he is.
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