If you knew this would happen, would you have wanted McDaniels? - The Orange Mane

extralife · 03-11-2009, 12:35 PM

The season has just ended. Poorly. The magical Bronco Fairy in the sky comes to your house, and offers you a choice: keep Mike Shanahan as head coach, with all that entails (likely Bob Slowick), or fire Mike and hire an unproven head coach who attempts to take over by force (installing his guys so as to quell dissent oh hey Lonnie New England), starts a standoff with Cutler before the two ever meet in person, and creates whirling trade rumors that in all likelyhood will end with Jay Cutler in some other city. Oh yeah and this means the Goodmans are out too. Which do you take?

Bronco Yoda · 03-11-2009, 12:40 PM

"Hello, I am the Magical Bronco Fairy"

This is one you'll never live this down extralife....

extralife · 03-11-2009, 12:42 PM

I am a bold man of action

bronco militia · 03-11-2009, 12:44 PM

I'm pretty sure most broncos fans didn't want him to begin with

extralife · 03-11-2009, 12:45 PM

Ok, this is slightly inaccurate because Cutler and McD have met in person. Adjust your answers accordingly.

Taco John · 03-11-2009, 12:53 PM

This was the situation that I was concerned about when we were looking at new coaches. Young immature coach meets young immature offense...

He's already lost control of the locker room. Even if Cutler leaves, there will be players harboring resentment. The only thing that will cure this situation is winning.

Popps · 03-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Weird poll choices.

I'm not glad this is happening by any stretch, but Jay's response is making me believe more and more every day that it was necessary.

BroncoBuff · 03-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Go back .... this is an unprecedented fiasco.

Go back and give Josh boundaries. He is the COACH, nothing more.

montrose · 03-11-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

He's already lost control of the locker room.

How do we know this? There's so much information out there who knows what's true. I've heard from multiple places that there is a relatively large contingency of players who can't stand Cutler led by Champ Bailey. That doesn't mean it's true, it's all secondhand information. We've got no clue if McDaniels has lost the locker room, until we hear so from a credible source like Adam Schefter or directly from one of the players themselves.

lex · 03-11-2009, 12:58 PM

If were going to go back in time, why is it a choice between McDaniels or Shanahan? There were other candidates out there. People act like firing Shanahan and hiring McDaniels were the same decision. No. They were distinctly different. So when Pat Bowlen wants to fire a HOF coach, thats one thing. The second part is who he finds as a replacement. I dont blame Bowlen for not wanting to stomach another season with Slowik as a coordinator. But its the second part that I have a problem with.

Kaylore · 03-11-2009, 01:00 PM

If it was between this and Bob Slowik, I would chose this and let it drag out two years.

Beantown Bronco · 03-11-2009, 01:03 PM

As long as he's not hanging out on the sidelines listening to his ipod during the games, I'm ok with him....

CBF1 · 03-11-2009, 01:03 PM

I would rather have a choice of make any McDaniel or Cutler posts on the mane impossible. Do you ever get tired of posting this shiat?

Hotrod · 03-11-2009, 01:04 PM

I just wish Jay would stop being such a Lex.

Broncomutt · 03-11-2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

He's already lost control of the locker room.

Did I miss something? I thought this was between Jay and the coaching/FO staff.

He's pissed off everyone now?

Popps · 03-11-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

He's already lost control of the locker room.

This from the guy who claims people "lie" around here?

I backed up what I said with two different forms of data.

Where's your data-set and concrete proof that he's "lost the locker room?"

What a joke. For all you know, most of the players think Jay is a cry-baby, douche-bag. We have NO IDEA what the "locker room" is thinking.

Let me ask you something, Taco... if this hair-brained notion had legs, wouldn't we have at least a FEW players coming out in protest?

I haven't heard a single one make a peep.

Lost control.

Garcia Bronco · 03-11-2009, 01:33 PM

I am excited about what McDaniels can bring to the X-Os aspect of the football field. I am excited about changing BACK to the 3-4. I am not excited about McDaniels inability too deal with his players in a manner by which he can persuade them of his ideas.

Garcia Bronco · 03-11-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

This from the guy who claims people "lie" around here?

I backed up what I said with two different forms of data.

Where's your data-set and concrete proof that he's "lost the locker room?"

What a joke. For all you know, most of the players think Jay is a cry-baby, douche-bag. We have NO IDEA what the "locker room" is thinking.

Let me ask you something, Taco... if this hair-brained notion had legs, wouldn't we have at least a FEW players coming out in protest?

I haven't heard a single one make a peep.

Lost control.

He's already lost the confidence of his franchise QB. Stop being your usual dumb self.

Kaylore · 03-11-2009, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I am excited about what McDaniels can bring to the X-Os aspect of the football field. I am excited about changing BACK to the 3-4. I am not excited about McDaniels inability too deal with one player in a manner by which he can persuade him to take the sand out of his vagina.

fixed your post.

Mountain Bronco · 03-11-2009, 01:48 PM

There is one factor that you haven't mentioned yet. Would Bowlen have opened his checkbook for Shanny to reshape the roster in the way he has for McKid? Not saying that McKid's reshaping is any good, but it is there nonetheless.

Bronco Yoda · 03-11-2009, 01:48 PM

You have to crack a few eggs to make an omlet.

I hope Jay stays and grows up. I hope McD gets control and works out...

But above all... I hope we win some games this year regardless...

Popps · 03-11-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

He's already lost the confidence of his franchise QB. Stop being your usual dumb self.

Wow, you mean... the "franchise" QB who hasn't had a winning season in the league, or the one who apparently thinks he runs the organization?

I didn't realize it was the COACHES and OWNERS who had to prove themselves to the players... I could have sworn it was the other way around.

Taco John · 03-11-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Let me ask you something, Taco... if this hair-brained notion had legs, wouldn't we have at least a FEW players coming out in protest?

No, I don't think that you'd have even one willing to publically stick his neck out. What would they have to gain by doing it?

I don't think it's beyond anyone's grasp here to understand that this saga has driven a split in the locker room, with some breaking one way, and others breaking the other way. That's losing the locker room when they're not all pulling in the same direction. Whether Cutler stays or goes, it's going to be a problem.

The same thing happened to Belichick in Cleveland. When he first came in, he started to make power moves that alienated him from his team, and ultimately resulted in failure.

lex · 03-11-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I am excited about what McDaniels can bring to the X-Os aspect of the football field. I am excited about changing BACK to the 3-4. I am not excited about McDaniels inability too deal with his players in a manner by which he can persuade them of his ideas.

I dont get this Xs and Os stuff. Shanahan was great at Xs and Os. He didnt do so well on personnel decisions but he was so good at Xs and Os that we were able to get away with personnel mistakes that cause a lot of teams to go 3-13. The only thing Im intrigued by is what Nolan brings to the table on defense. We already had good, well coached players on offense when Josh got here.

Beantown Bronco · 03-11-2009, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mountain Bronco

There is one factor that you haven't mentioned yet. Would Bowlen have opened his checkbook for Shanny to reshape the roster in the way he has for McKid? Not saying that McKid's reshaping is any good, but it is there nonetheless.

Really? I'm willing to bet they've forked over quite a few million dollars less to FAs this offseason compared to last.

More faces does not necessarily = more money. Besides perhaps Dawkins, we're talking short money signings so far.

View Poll Results: Hello, I am the Magical Bronco Fairy
Go back to the end of the season and pretend this never happened	87	67.97%
No way this is exactly what we needed	30	23.44%
Wow this sucks but something is better than nothing	11	8.59%
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03-11-2009, 12:35 PM	#1
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,905	If you knew this would happen, would you have wanted McDaniels? The season has just ended. Poorly. The magical Bronco Fairy in the sky comes to your house, and offers you a choice: keep Mike Shanahan as head coach, with all that entails (likely Bob Slowick), or fire Mike and hire an unproven head coach who attempts to take over by force (installing his guys so as to quell dissent oh hey Lonnie New England), starts a standoff with Cutler before the two ever meet in person, and creates whirling trade rumors that in all likelyhood will end with Jay Cutler in some other city. Oh yeah and this means the Goodmans are out too. Which do you take?

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03-11-2009, 12:40 PM	#2
Bronco Yoda Stokley once... ...saved me from a beating Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,244	"Hello, I am the Magical Bronco Fairy" This is one you'll never live this down extralife....

03-11-2009, 12:42 PM	#3
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,905	I am a bold man of action

03-11-2009, 12:44 PM	#4
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	I'm pretty sure most broncos fans didn't want him to begin with

03-11-2009, 12:45 PM	#5
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,905	Ok, this is slightly inaccurate because Cutler and McD have met in person. Adjust your answers accordingly.

03-11-2009, 12:53 PM	#6
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	This was the situation that I was concerned about when we were looking at new coaches. Young immature coach meets young immature offense... He's already lost control of the locker room. Even if Cutler leaves, there will be players harboring resentment. The only thing that will cure this situation is winning.

03-11-2009, 12:54 PM	#7
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Weird poll choices. I'm not glad this is happening by any stretch, but Jay's response is making me believe more and more every day that it was necessary.

03-11-2009, 12:54 PM	#8
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Go back .... this is an unprecedented fiasco. Go back and give Josh boundaries. He is the COACH, nothing more.

03-11-2009, 12:58 PM	#10
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If were going to go back in time, why is it a choice between McDaniels or Shanahan? There were other candidates out there. People act like firing Shanahan and hiring McDaniels were the same decision. No. They were distinctly different. So when Pat Bowlen wants to fire a HOF coach, thats one thing. The second part is who he finds as a replacement. I dont blame Bowlen for not wanting to stomach another season with Slowik as a coordinator. But its the second part that I have a problem with.

03-11-2009, 01:00 PM	#11
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	If it was between this and Bob Slowik, I would chose this and let it drag out two years.

03-11-2009, 01:03 PM	#12
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,043 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	As long as he's not hanging out on the sidelines listening to his ipod during the games, I'm ok with him....

03-11-2009, 01:03 PM	#13
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	I would rather have a choice of make any McDaniel or Cutler posts on the mane impossible. Do you ever get tired of posting this shiat?

03-11-2009, 01:04 PM	#14
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I just wish Jay would stop being such a Lex.

03-11-2009, 01:33 PM	#17
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I am excited about what McDaniels can bring to the X-Os aspect of the football field. I am excited about changing BACK to the 3-4. I am not excited about McDaniels inability too deal with his players in a manner by which he can persuade them of his ideas.

03-11-2009, 01:48 PM	#20
Mountain Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Mountains Posts: 1,446	There is one factor that you haven't mentioned yet. Would Bowlen have opened his checkbook for Shanny to reshape the roster in the way he has for McKid? Not saying that McKid's reshaping is any good, but it is there nonetheless.