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Making this into its own thread. It seems relevant and topical enough for discussion.
http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf...ent_style.html Quote:
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dude, mcdaniels has yet to hold an OTA, minicamp, or even coach a game. its free agency time and he looked up a deal that didnt go through, now hes committed to the QB and the QB wont get over it. good god, what the hell is going on here.
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COUGHLIN WINS OVER GIANTS RULES TRANSLATE INTO RESULTS
BY RALPH VACCHIANO DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Tuesday, September 28th 2004, 7:25AM THERE WERE HUGS, handshakes and high-fives all around for the Giants on Sunday, and at least anecdotal evidence that one or two of them came from Tom Coughlin himself. If true, it would mark an incredible thaw in Giants' coach-player relations. "Winning," said Giants running back Tiki Barber, "does strange things." Yes it does, and it explains why the Giants' locker room has undergone such a dizzying and remarkable transformation in the first three weeks of the season. The grumbling about Coughlin's rules has been replaced by praise for his discipline and attention to detail. It's as if the previously unhappy players have joined some mind-bending cult. And all it took was a victory over the turnover-plagued Washington Redskins followed by Sunday's 27-10 laugher over the injury-plagued Cleveland Browns. That gave the Giants a two-game winning streak, and it made the players suddenly recognize there may be more to Coughlin than just petty rules and unnecessary fines. "For some guys, (Coughlin) was a little shock for them, with the new rules and discipline and stuff," guard Jason Whittle said. "But coach Coughlin's got a great plan, he knows how to win, and guys are seeing that we're winning like that. So they're going to start to embrace that. I hope they do." They key, of course, is the fact that they are "winning like that," something they weren't doing in the offseason when seven to 10 players complained to their union about Coughlin's workout program. Then there were four players who appealed to the union about fines before the opening game. Back then, Coughlin was a tyrant. And it didn't help when the Giants opened 0-1. But now at 2-1, the players don't whisper behind Coughlin's back, they speak of him in hushed tones. His focus on turnovers has led them to an NFL-best plus-8 turnover ratio. His emphasis on special teams has turned that unit around. And his legendary attention to detail, which at times grated on his players, is what got them ready to beat the Redskins and Browns. "You buy into a philosophy and you stick with it," Barber explained. "If you're losing, obviously this philosophy would not be so great. But we're winning. You've got to see that there's some merit in it." This, of course, is what Coughlin's supporters and many of his former players had said all along. They always insisted that while the Giants might not initially like his style, personality or rules and regulations, they will enjoy everything about him once they start to win. The big question now is how long will all this happiness last? Next up for the Giants are two tough games, at Green Bay and at Dallas. A win in either could vault the Giants into the ranks of true contenders and legitimize Coughlin's philosophy. But could two losses be enough to disrupt the harmony and reopen the locker room hotline to the NFLPA? That remains to be seen. But for now Coughlin and the Giants are on a winning streak. And it looks like that's enough to convince the players to give their mean old coach a chance. "I guess you do need to see it be successful in order for you to fully buy into it," said linebacker Barrett Green. "Now we know it's working and we're going to try to keep it going." "People were complaining about, 'Well I'm not having as much fun,'" Whittle added. "Well, if you start winning you have fun. I don't care how many rules he has. If you're winning you're having fun." You have an article from 2008....after Coughlin had been there for 4 or 5 years....at that point there was a comfort level this was how he made it HIS TEAM dont take things out of context |
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Coughlin won a SB. Dumb thread
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He said he was wrong, he changed his ways, and it worked. Who am I to disagree with him and his team. |
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i think its relevant actually...
but this guy googling articles from 2008 after Coughlin had already instilled his work ethic by getting rid of guys like Shockey and Barber is definitely not relevant comparing apples to apples would be taking Coughlins early tenure and McDs but thats too complicated |
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why cant you just acknowledge that and then we will agree to disagree |
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Anyways, Coughlin said he made mistakes early on. Belichick did the same in Cleveland (the team even moved in part over it!). As did Mangini in on the other New York team. We are seeing what looks to be the same path with McDaniels in the same tree. |
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no, i never said he didnt change....I'm saying those three years that he was given carte blanche and fining these guys weeded out the players that it wouldnt work out with....I think Shockey was a great example, he just never bought into it
dont make it seem like I'm budging from my position... |
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You mean change ways? Coughlin is a no bull guy, but he's a player's coach.
Hopefully McD figures this out sooner, rather than on his second team like the rest of his tree in Coughlin, Belichick, and Mangini. |
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