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Old 03-03-2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default Sandy Clough of the 104.3 The Fan Reported Details of the Discussed Cutler trade

Now this went down before the Broncos released their statement this afternoon. Anyhow, Sandy cited a "very trustworthy" NFL source that the original deal that the Broncos were discussing was with Detroit and New England, and Tampa jumped in with a proposal after it fell through. He posed a few scenarios but he "reported" the one Denver wanted but New England backed out of at the last second was:

Denver trades Jay Cutler, #48 pick (2nd round) and #79 (3rd round)
Detroit trades #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
New England trades Matt Cassel

Denver receives Matt Cassel, #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
Detroit receives Jay Cutler and #79 (3rd round)
New England receives #48 pick (2nd round)

I have no idea as to the credibility of Sandy Clough and his "sources" but if this was true - I don't blame the Broncos one bit for discussing it.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:26 PM   #2
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reasonable. 3 1st round picks. tempting.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:29 PM   #3
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Wow, that would have been tempting. I keep hearing NE would have ended up with the #12 (our) pick. Not sure how that works out in the scenario above.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:29 PM   #4
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Damn, I'd listen to that as well. Three first round picks! We could get Raji or Curry!
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #5
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clady. moss. (Cutler). williams. nope not imo.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #6
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Now this went down before the Broncos released their statement this afternoon. Anyhow, Sandy cited a "very trustworthy" NFL source that the original deal that the Broncos were discussing was with Detroit and New England, and Tampa jumped in with a proposal after it fell through. He posed a few scenarios but he "reported" the one Denver wanted but New England backed out of at the last second was:

Denver trades Jay Cutler, #48 pick (2nd round) and #79 (3rd round)
Detroit trades #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
New England trades Matt Cassel

Denver receives Matt Cassel, #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
Detroit receives Jay Cutler and #79 (3rd round)
New England receives #48 pick (2nd round)

I have no idea as to the credibility of Sandy Clough and his "sources" but if this was true - I don't blame the Broncos one bit for discussing it.
I'd take that deal.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #7
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Wow, if that's the case they need to show that deal to Cutler, perhaps then he will feel more respected.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #8
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makes sense to listen now ....
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:31 PM   #9
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If that's the real deal and Jay is pissed because McDaniels considered it... well... That's extremely tempting, that all I'll say. (and I love what Cutler brings BTW)
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:33 PM   #10
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Well, at least now we know they were pimping him for more than $25 and a handjob. I have a little more faith in McD now.

A little.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:36 PM   #11
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Oh man, if this is real then I'd listen too. I'd also go ahead and show Cutler what the league thinks of him with that kind of blockbuster trade.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:37 PM   #12
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Now this went down before the Broncos released their statement this afternoon. Anyhow, Sandy cited a "very trustworthy" NFL source that the original deal that the Broncos were discussing was with Detroit and New England, and Tampa jumped in with a proposal after it fell through. He posed a few scenarios but he "reported" the one Denver wanted but New England backed out of at the last second was:

Denver trades Jay Cutler, #48 pick (2nd round) and #79 (3rd round)
Detroit trades #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
New England trades Matt Cassel

Denver receives Matt Cassel, #1 pick (1st round) and #20 pick (1st round)
Detroit receives Jay Cutler and #79 (3rd round)
New England receives #48 pick (2nd round)

I have no idea as to the credibility of Sandy Clough and his "sources" but if this was true - I don't blame the Broncos one bit for discussing it.
DDAAMMMNNN, that is a hell of a trade. 2 first AND you get your proven QB to run the team. I don't blame them at all for listening to that offer
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:37 PM   #13
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Mort was reporting today on espnradio that Detroit was only offering the 33rd pick in the draft and Tampa was offering their 1st and a later rd pick like a 3rd or 4th.

He isn't the most reliable these days but this is what he was saying today.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:38 PM   #14
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Well, this certainly casts things in a different light. What was the deal with Tampa gonna be?
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:38 PM   #15
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makes since why patriots took chiefs deal too!
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:40 PM   #16
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If this was the honest offer, they should show this to Jay on Monday - and him they still turned it down. If he's still pissy after that then he can shove off because I can't think of too many players in the entire league I wouldn't do that deal for.

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Well, this certainly casts things in a different light. What was the deal with Tampa gonna be?
They didn't say, but obviously not this good.

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makes since why patriots took chiefs deal too!
Right, they got a higher 2nd rounder plus they wanted to unload Vrabel and it's likely neither Denver or Detroit wanted him.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:40 PM   #17
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I would have made that trade for sure. No question about it!!!!!!
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:41 PM   #18
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I will say this Sandy frequents the fan sites. He has quoted most recently from a few Nuggets sites. So his source could very well be someone from Kiddie Mania......

Just saying!
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:42 PM   #19
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that trade sucks for New England...

i don't buy it...
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:43 PM   #20
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Even SoCalBronco would have listened to that. I guess the sticking point was Vrable. The Patriots wanted to unload his contract and the Chiefs agreed to eat the whole thing (they have the room) on the condition that they give them Cassel.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:44 PM   #21
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that trade sucks for New England...

i don't buy it...
I agree. The first overall and the 20th pick and still get Cassel?? Not buying it.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:44 PM   #22
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I'm waiting for someone in the media to say, according to "very untrustworthy sources......"
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:45 PM   #23
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Take that deal and we instantly (assuming a good draft) have a very good playoff team and extremely young too. It would be the beginnings of a dynasty. I bet McDaniels was going to take it until KC showed up and queered the deal.

I would take that deal in a NY second.
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:47 PM   #24
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that trade sucks for New England...

i don't buy it...
Is the deal they got from the Chiefs that much better?
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Old 03-03-2009, 05:48 PM   #25
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We don't know if that is another lie.

We would be nuts to turn that down.
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