Moss to Linebacker - The Orange Mane

brncs_fan · 02-20-2009, 03:30 PM

Broncos plan to move Moss to linebacker

Defensive end Jarvis Moss will be taking a couple of steps back.

Now that the Broncos will use more of a 3-4 defensive alignment, Moss, the Broncos' first-round pick in the 2007 draft, has learned he'll be moving to outside linebacker in Mike Nolan's new scheme.

"They feel like it could be good for Jarvis, because he hasn't put on the weight you would expect a defensive end to have. And he's athletic enough to do it," Moss' agent, Pat Dye Jr., said Friday. "My sense is he'll be an outside linebacker and a big pass-rusher primarily."

The team previously had alerted Elvis Dumervil to the possibility of making the transition from a down lineman to a stand-up defender.

Moss has vowed to add 10 pounds this offseason while working with a nutritionist and strength coaches in Gainesville, Fla. But he has had difficulty moving north of the 255 pounds he carried at season's end.

The key challenge for Moss in his new position will be proving he can backpedal and turn in coverage. He has dropped periodically in zone-blitz situations in the past.

"We actually did some of that before the draft because the 3-4 teams obviously didn't see him as a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme," Dye said. "So the 3-4 teams put him through linebacker drills and he did fine.

"He's plenty athletic. My hope was at this point he'd weigh 265-270 and be a prototypical defensive end, but that hasn't happened. So this could kind of be a rebirth for him."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ss-linebacker/

DarkHorse · 02-20-2009, 03:33 PM

This just indicates that he's on borrowed time with this team. If he doesn't display an ability to play OLB he'll be gone as he's provided the team with nothing at Defensive End.

wolf754life · 02-20-2009, 03:38 PM

bust-o-han, goodmans signed off on him and tim "clam chowder" crowder.

BroncoMan4ever · 02-20-2009, 03:42 PM

Elvis is going to beat him out for the OLB spot and Moss will be looking for work next offseason.

colonelbeef · 02-20-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf754life

bust-o-han, goodmans signed off on him and tim "clam chowder" crowder.

what are your thoughts on Cutler, Marshall, Dumervil, Sheffler, Kuper, Hillis, Torain, Royal, Clady, Larsen, and Barrett?

snowspot66 · 02-20-2009, 03:46 PM

Wolf give it a ****ing rest.

Dedhed · 02-20-2009, 03:48 PM

OLB in a 3-4 is Moss' best chance. He's got a better chance of slimming down to be more athletic than he does at bulking up to try and hold the point.

They may not work out, but I'm a fan of both Moss and Dumervil as 3-4 OLBs.

sirhcyennek81 · 02-20-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf754life

bust-o-han, goodmans signed off on him and tim "clam chowder" crowder.

You have problems man. Shanahan is gone. Grow up.

snowspot66 · 02-20-2009, 03:50 PM

Moss is under contract for a few more years. May as well give him a shot.

dbfan4life · 02-20-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66

Wolf give it a ****ing rest.

I know. He b****ed when Shanny was here and is still b****ing now that he's gone!

elsid13 · 02-20-2009, 03:55 PM

So the LB corp could be Doom(Woodyard), Williams, Larson, Moss (Bailey)

(Passing Downs)

Popps · 02-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Moss looks like a failed experiment. I'm not really sure why he'd pan out at LB in a 3/4. He's got no pass-rush moves at all. He's half the pass-rusher Elvis is.

That said, it's worth a shot. Throw him in there during camp and see if anything sparks. If not, get this guy out of my face.

HEAV · 02-20-2009, 04:00 PM

Moss and Doom playing OLB with Bailey and DJ @ inside... Holy **** we are going to need 3 solid D-lineman form the draft/Free agency.

skpac1001 · 02-20-2009, 04:04 PM

I actually like Moss at LB much more then I ever did at 4-3 DE. I wouldn't be surprised if he is better in space and against the run then Doom at LB.

telluride · 02-20-2009, 04:07 PM

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"They feel like it could be good for Jarvis, because he hasn't put on the weight you would expect a defensive end to have. And he's athletic enough to do it," Moss' agent, Pat Dye Jr., said Friday.

Well, why the f*&k not? The guy knows he has to get bigger to get better, and he simply decides not to. Worse, the training staff doesn't do anything about it. I swear we should have bounced the entire weight and training and medical staff this offseason, while we were cleaning house.

DenverBrit · 02-20-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf754life

bust-o-han, goodmans signed off on him and tim "clam chowder" crowder.

Stop b#tching, Moss was a Bates pick.

telluride · 02-20-2009, 04:08 PM

Sigh. Okay, I have that out of my system now.

BroncoInferno · 02-20-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by telluride

Well, why the f*&k not? The guy knows he has to get bigger to get better, and he simply decides not to.

No, he has worked hard to put on weight. The fact is some people simply have trouble packing on weight, the same as there are some who have trouble keeping it off.

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Worse, the training staff doesn't do anything about it. I swear we should have bounced the entire weight and training and medical staff this offseason, while we were cleaning house.

Because Jarvis Moss didn't pack weight, most likely due to physiological reasons?

TheDave · 02-20-2009, 04:11 PM

Duh... Did anyone actually think he could play DE in a 3-4?

PRBronco · 02-20-2009, 04:19 PM

I'm expecting Moss to get some picks this year, the QB won't see him since he essentially disappears when viewed from the side.

Ba dum cha!

BroncoInferno · 02-20-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PRBronco

I'm expecting Moss to get some picks this year, the QB won't see him since he essentially disappears when viewed from the side.

Ba dum cha!

He'll be the first player in history with double digit sacks and double digit INTs in the same season

DomCasual · 02-20-2009, 04:21 PM

Well, as long as his agent says he'll have no problems with it...

CoBear23 · 02-20-2009, 04:24 PM

Although I'm not sold that Moss can play OLB in a 3-4 he is a much better fit than trying to fit Dumervil back there. Doom looked lost when he was asked to drop back in zone coverage last year, he also lacks the speed and stamina needed to play at a consistent level at that position.

Schism · 02-20-2009, 04:27 PM

Let him and Elvis battle it out in camp to play JACK , hopefully one steps up.

I like DJ and Larsen in the middle.

We need a SOLB though.

And some safeties.

And a corner.

Defensive line, too.

PRBronco · 02-20-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CoBear23

Although I'm not sold that Moss can play OLB in a 3-4 he is a much better fit than trying to fit Dumervil back there. Doom looked lost when he was asked to drop back in zone coverage last year, he also lacks the speed and stamina needed to play at a consistent level at that position.

Yeah, I'm a firm believer that if there was even a sliver of hope for Elvis as a 3-4 OLB, someone would have scooped him and his 20 sacks (or whatever he had as a senior) up long before we took him in the 5th.

02-20-2009, 03:30 PM	#1
brncs_fan How about some Tapenade! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Coaches Cradle...Eastern Illinois University Posts: 5,489 Adopt-a-Bronco: Manti Teo	Moss to Linebacker Broncos plan to move Moss to linebacker Defensive end Jarvis Moss will be taking a couple of steps back. Now that the Broncos will use more of a 3-4 defensive alignment, Moss, the Broncos' first-round pick in the 2007 draft, has learned he'll be moving to outside linebacker in Mike Nolan's new scheme. "They feel like it could be good for Jarvis, because he hasn't put on the weight you would expect a defensive end to have. And he's athletic enough to do it," Moss' agent, Pat Dye Jr., said Friday. "My sense is he'll be an outside linebacker and a big pass-rusher primarily." The team previously had alerted Elvis Dumervil to the possibility of making the transition from a down lineman to a stand-up defender. Moss has vowed to add 10 pounds this offseason while working with a nutritionist and strength coaches in Gainesville, Fla. But he has had difficulty moving north of the 255 pounds he carried at season's end. The key challenge for Moss in his new position will be proving he can backpedal and turn in coverage. He has dropped periodically in zone-blitz situations in the past. "We actually did some of that before the draft because the 3-4 teams obviously didn't see him as a defensive end in a 3-4 scheme," Dye said. "So the 3-4 teams put him through linebacker drills and he did fine. "He's plenty athletic. My hope was at this point he'd weigh 265-270 and be a prototypical defensive end, but that hasn't happened. So this could kind of be a rebirth for him." http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...ss-linebacker/

02-20-2009, 04:04 PM	#14
skpac1001 Ring of Famer I brings the ruckus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 1,129 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I actually like Moss at LB much more then I ever did at 4-3 DE. I wouldn't be surprised if he is better in space and against the run then Doom at LB. Last edited by skpac1001; 02-20-2009 at 04:09 PM..

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02-20-2009, 03:33 PM	#2
DarkHorse RPM Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 4,680 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kenny McKinley	This just indicates that he's on borrowed time with this team. If he doesn't display an ability to play OLB he'll be gone as he's provided the team with nothing at Defensive End.

02-20-2009, 03:38 PM	#3
wolf754life Bleed Orange and Blue more scoring + more tackling = $$$ Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,776	bust-o-han, goodmans signed off on him and tim "clam chowder" crowder.

02-20-2009, 03:42 PM	#4
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,555 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	Elvis is going to beat him out for the OLB spot and Moss will be looking for work next offseason.

02-20-2009, 03:46 PM	#6
snowspot66 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,642	Wolf give it a ****ing rest.

02-20-2009, 03:48 PM	#7
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,702 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	OLB in a 3-4 is Moss' best chance. He's got a better chance of slimming down to be more athletic than he does at bulking up to try and hold the point. They may not work out, but I'm a fan of both Moss and Dumervil as 3-4 OLBs.

02-20-2009, 03:50 PM	#9
snowspot66 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,642	Moss is under contract for a few more years. May as well give him a shot.

02-20-2009, 03:55 PM	#11
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,080	So the LB corp could be Doom(Woodyard), Williams, Larson, Moss (Bailey) (Passing Downs)

02-20-2009, 03:59 PM	#12
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Moss looks like a failed experiment. I'm not really sure why he'd pan out at LB in a 3/4. He's got no pass-rush moves at all. He's half the pass-rusher Elvis is. That said, it's worth a shot. Throw him in there during camp and see if anything sparks. If not, get this guy out of my face.

02-20-2009, 04:00 PM	#13
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Moss and Doom playing OLB with Bailey and DJ @ inside... Holy **** we are going to need 3 solid D-lineman form the draft/Free agency.

02-20-2009, 04:08 PM	#17
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	Sigh. Okay, I have that out of my system now.

02-20-2009, 04:11 PM	#19
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Duh... Did anyone actually think he could play DE in a 3-4?

02-20-2009, 04:19 PM	#20
PRBronco FML less Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Vancouver Posts: 4,206 Adopt-a-Bronco: I'm so alone	I'm expecting Moss to get some picks this year, the QB won't see him since he essentially disappears when viewed from the side. Ba dum cha!

02-20-2009, 04:21 PM	#22
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Well, as long as his agent says he'll have no problems with it...

02-20-2009, 04:24 PM	#23
CoBear23 Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 254	Although I'm not sold that Moss can play OLB in a 3-4 he is a much better fit than trying to fit Dumervil back there. Doom looked lost when he was asked to drop back in zone coverage last year, he also lacks the speed and stamina needed to play at a consistent level at that position.

02-20-2009, 04:27 PM	#24
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Let him and Elvis battle it out in camp to play JACK , hopefully one steps up. I like DJ and Larsen in the middle. We need a SOLB though. And some safeties. And a corner. Defensive line, too.