Why Boss probably stays. - The Orange Mane

DenverBrit · 02-19-2009, 06:37 AM

Deal helping Boss Bailey's job look safe
Posted: 02/19/2009 12:30:00 AM MST

INDIANAPOLIS — It would make financial sense for the Broncos to keep Boss Bailey. Although pricey, the structure of Bailey's contract should help the outside linebacker avoid the Broncos' ongoing defensive purge.

The $2 million roster bonus Bailey is owed March 3 is guaranteed. Beyond that, he has an affordable $895,000 salary and a $100,000 workout bonus, so the Broncos essentially would have to eat $2 million to save roughly $1 million.

Bailey played well despite a high ankle sprain early last season, recording 43 tackles in the five-game period from Weeks 2-6. But he then suffered a season- ending knee injury early in a 41-7 loss to Josh McDaniels' New England Patriots in Week 7.

The Broncos were running a version of the 3-4 defense during a 16-13 victory over Tampa Bay in Week 5 when Bailey had 13 tackles, so he could fit in the Broncos' new 3- 4/4-3 hybrid defense.

Help wanted.

The Broncos enter the NFL scouting combine a tad outmanned after they lost college scouts Bobby Beers and Tyler Goodman and player personnel executives Jim and Jeff Goodman since late in the 2008 season.

General manager Brian Xanders indicated Monday he would hire a few scouts.

"We're just trying to get back to a normal-sized staff," he said.

Kicker watch.

Rest assured, Broncos kicker Matt Prater will not go into another training camp without competition. One possibility may be John Carney, who just capped his 20th NFL season by kicking three field goals to help the NFC win the Pro Bowl. Carney kicked in 2007 for Kansas City, whose special- teams coach, Mike Priefer, now holds the same position with the Broncos.

Mike Klis, The Denver Post

cmhargrove · 02-19-2009, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Deal helping Boss Bailey's job look safe
Posted: 02/19/2009 12:30:00 AM MST

INDIANAPOLIS — It would make financial sense for the Broncos to keep Boss Bailey. Although pricey, the structure of Bailey's contract should help the outside linebacker avoid the Broncos' ongoing defensive purge.

The $2 million roster bonus Bailey is owed March 3 is guaranteed. Beyond that, he has an affordable $895,000 salary and a $100,000 workout bonus, so the Broncos essentially would have to eat $2 million to save roughly $1 million.

Bailey played well despite a high ankle sprain early last season, recording 43 tackles in the five-game period from Weeks 2-6. But he then suffered a season- ending knee injury early in a 41-7 loss to Josh McDaniels' New England Patriots in Week 7.

The Broncos were running a version of the 3-4 defense during a 16-13 victory over Tampa Bay in Week 5 when Bailey had 13 tackles, so he could fit in the Broncos' new 3- 4/4-3 hybrid defense.

Help wanted.

The Broncos enter the NFL scouting combine a tad outmanned after they lost college scouts Bobby Beers and Tyler Goodman and player personnel executives Jim and Jeff Goodman since late in the 2008 season.

General manager Brian Xanders indicated Monday he would hire a few scouts.

"We're just trying to get back to a normal-sized staff," he said.

Kicker watch.

Rest assured, Broncos kicker Matt Prater will not go into another training camp without competition. One possibility may be John Carney, who just capped his 20th NFL season by kicking three field goals to help the NFC win the Pro Bowl. Carney kicked in 2007 for Kansas City, whose special- teams coach, Mike Priefer, now holds the same position with the Broncos.

Mike Klis, The Denver Post

Would a couple O-maners please apply for these scouting jobs? It would be nice to get some insider info again...

tsiguy96 · 02-19-2009, 07:01 AM

i think boss should stay, if he can stay healthy hes really good...

Beantown Bronco · 02-19-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

i think boss should stay, if he can stay healthy hes really good...

File this under the "I'm afraid that's too much to ask" category....looks like at least one more year of this:

http://media.rockymountainnews.com/d...46602_t220.jpg

Dendave · 02-19-2009, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

if he can stay healthy

yeah right

Smiling Assassin27 · 02-19-2009, 07:34 AM

Carney is as solid as they come. Accurate with decent length and a good, clutch kicker. Prater's going down if Carney gets a fair tryout.

Beantown Bronco · 02-19-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

Carney is as solid as they come. Accurate with decent length and a good, clutch kicker. Prater's going down if Carney gets a fair tryout.

Then they'd have to go back to carrying a kickoff specialist on the roster every week......I just looked at the numbers and there was literally only one kicker in the entire league that got less distance on kickoffs than Carney did last season.

alkemical · 02-19-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

Would a couple O-maners please apply for these scouting jobs? It would be nice to get some insider info again...

I nominate SouthstandsJunkie -

crowebomber · 02-19-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

Would a couple O-maners please apply for these scouting jobs? It would be nice to get some insider info again...

I think montrose and wabbit would fit the bill.

Los Broncos · 02-19-2009, 07:58 AM

He might as well start out next season on IR.

montrose · 02-19-2009, 08:06 AM

While I think Boss could fit on the team, this logic used doesn't necessarily apply. Look at Bly, we didn't save any cap money to get rid of him. McDaniels and Xanders are cleaning out the guys they don't want, if Boss is one of those guys he'll be gone although I wouldn't be shocked if they preferred to keep him around to compete at the SOLB spot.

rugbythug · 02-19-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

While I think Boss could fit on the team, this logic used doesn't necessarily apply. Look at Bly, we didn't save any cap money to get rid of him. McDaniels and Xanders are cleaning out the guys they don't want, if Boss is one of those guys he'll be gone although I wouldn't be shocked if they preferred to keep him around to compete at the SOLB spot.

In Boss we don't save any money. Bly while not saving cap we did not have to pay the actuall 3million. IN Boss the 2 million gets paid irregardless.

supermanhr9 · 02-19-2009, 08:19 AM

There's a couple of guys on here (not me) that could truthfully do the job as well as any other scout out there. That would be cool to see an o-maner on the staff.

telluride · 02-19-2009, 08:23 AM

Boss reacts to the good news.

BroncoBuff · 02-19-2009, 08:46 AM

Klis must've read my post, and then printed it in the paper.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...65#post2293965

Can I sue him?

Beantown Bronco · 02-19-2009, 08:55 AM

The only reason Boss will stay is because Bowlen is afraid Boss will sue him for discriminating against the handicapped if they cut him.

cutthemdown · 02-19-2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

i think boss should stay, if he can stay healthy hes really good...

My coach would have called the way Boss plays pansy ass football. The dude never takes on blockers, never blows up the lead blocker, doesn't shed blocks, and doesn't play physical.

I hate finesse linebackers like Boss Bailey who try to run around the blockers to make a play. Boss is another one of those head scratching moves from the Broncos. He played same soft style in Detroit. The only reason Broncos must have signed him was to make Champ happy.

Tyrant · 02-19-2009, 09:10 AM

Did Bobby Beers get fired? He's the only coach who recruited me in high school when he was coaching at Western Montana.

Then again, maybe he should have gotten fired, given his eye for talent since again, he was the only coach that recruited me in high school.

Good dude though.

NFLBRONCO · 02-19-2009, 09:35 AM

Boss should be cut he is a high priced cheerleader only.

cmhargrove · 02-19-2009, 09:47 AM

Can Boss play Special Teams?

BroncoBuff · 02-19-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmhargrove

Can Boss play Special Teams?

I don't think so ... but the angry "Boss is a pansy" posting is premature. We haven't seen him enough yet to make such a judgment. Was he hurt very fast and out for the season? Yes, but he played 15 and 16 games his last two years in Detroit.

I'm gonna cut him a litte slack for now. If he really is a pansy, we'll find out for sure this Summer.

27atwater · 02-19-2009, 03:36 PM

Since he doesn't hurt our pocketbooks, it's not a dumb mocve to keep him. He is Champ's brother afterall and given the wholesaleschanges, Boss may be more of an insurance policy against Champ requesting a trade. I hate Boss as a player. Never wanted him. But in this circumstance, he has his value here now.

02-19-2009, 06:37 AM	#1
DenverBrit Just hanging out. Got a breath mint?? Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 11,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Team	Why Boss probably stays. Deal helping Boss Bailey's job look safe Posted: 02/19/2009 12:30:00 AM MST INDIANAPOLIS — It would make financial sense for the Broncos to keep Boss Bailey. Although pricey, the structure of Bailey's contract should help the outside linebacker avoid the Broncos' ongoing defensive purge. The $2 million roster bonus Bailey is owed March 3 is guaranteed. Beyond that, he has an affordable $895,000 salary and a $100,000 workout bonus, so the Broncos essentially would have to eat $2 million to save roughly $1 million. Bailey played well despite a high ankle sprain early last season, recording 43 tackles in the five-game period from Weeks 2-6. But he then suffered a season- ending knee injury early in a 41-7 loss to Josh McDaniels' New England Patriots in Week 7. The Broncos were running a version of the 3-4 defense during a 16-13 victory over Tampa Bay in Week 5 when Bailey had 13 tackles, so he could fit in the Broncos' new 3- 4/4-3 hybrid defense. Help wanted. The Broncos enter the NFL scouting combine a tad outmanned after they lost college scouts Bobby Beers and Tyler Goodman and player personnel executives Jim and Jeff Goodman since late in the 2008 season. General manager Brian Xanders indicated Monday he would hire a few scouts. "We're just trying to get back to a normal-sized staff," he said. Kicker watch. Rest assured, Broncos kicker Matt Prater will not go into another training camp without competition. One possibility may be John Carney, who just capped his 20th NFL season by kicking three field goals to help the NFC win the Pro Bowl. Carney kicked in 2007 for Kansas City, whose special- teams coach, Mike Priefer, now holds the same position with the Broncos. Mike Klis, The Denver Post

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02-19-2009, 07:01 AM	#3
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	i think boss should stay, if he can stay healthy hes really good...

02-19-2009, 07:34 AM	#6
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,983 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Carney is as solid as they come. Accurate with decent length and a good, clutch kicker. Prater's going down if Carney gets a fair tryout.

02-19-2009, 07:58 AM	#10
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	He might as well start out next season on IR.

02-19-2009, 08:06 AM	#11
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	While I think Boss could fit on the team, this logic used doesn't necessarily apply. Look at Bly, we didn't save any cap money to get rid of him. McDaniels and Xanders are cleaning out the guys they don't want, if Boss is one of those guys he'll be gone although I wouldn't be shocked if they preferred to keep him around to compete at the SOLB spot.

02-19-2009, 08:19 AM	#13
supermanhr9 Ring of Famer "I'm gonna burn this mother down" Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ST. LOUIS, MO Posts: 1,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nobody	There's a couple of guys on here (not me) that could truthfully do the job as well as any other scout out there. That would be cool to see an o-maner on the staff.

02-19-2009, 08:23 AM	#14
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	Boss reacts to the good news.

02-19-2009, 08:46 AM	#15
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,440 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Klis must've read my post, and then printed it in the paper. http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...65#post2293965 Can I sue him?

02-19-2009, 08:55 AM	#16
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,046 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	The only reason Boss will stay is because Bowlen is afraid Boss will sue him for discriminating against the handicapped if they cut him.

02-19-2009, 09:10 AM	#18
Tyrant Solid Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 231	Did Bobby Beers get fired? He's the only coach who recruited me in high school when he was coaching at Western Montana. Then again, maybe he should have gotten fired, given his eye for talent since again, he was the only coach that recruited me in high school. Good dude though.

02-19-2009, 09:35 AM	#19
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,394	Boss should be cut he is a high priced cheerleader only.

02-19-2009, 09:47 AM	#20
cmhargrove Is this thing on??? Travis Henry's love child... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 6,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Can Boss play Special Teams?

02-19-2009, 03:36 PM	#22
27atwater THANK U! sphincter says "what"? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sharon, Pa Posts: 1,594	Since he doesn't hurt our pocketbooks, it's not a dumb mocve to keep him. He is Champ's brother afterall and given the wholesaleschanges, Boss may be more of an insurance policy against Champ requesting a trade. I hate Boss as a player. Never wanted him. But in this circumstance, he has his value here now.