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Old 02-19-2009, 10:45 AM   #1
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Old 02-19-2009, 10:57 AM   #2
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dude is going to make 16 mil this year, im sure he can live with it
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So there it is. No Suggs. No Atogwe. No Peppers. Now it's a bunch of leftovers who are probably free agents for a reason.

We'll have to do it the hard way: We'll have to suck it up, try and draft well and build at home. If a good free agent becomes available, so be it. However we're probably going to have a bad year as we try and rebuild from the core out. In the long run it will be better this way. I just hope Xanders and McDaniels can draft. Young coaches have bad luck in the draft their first years.
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Panthers franchise Peppers after signing Gross
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Well, that didn’t take long. Moments after completing a deal for offensive tackle Jordan Gross, the Carolina Panthers designated Julius Peppers as their franchise player, a league source confirmed Thursday. Peppers’ franchise number is $16.683 million, but it is hardly the money that Peppers wants. He wants his freedom, the ability to leave Carolina and go play in a city that would be desirable to him.

Now that the Gross issue is out of the way, the Panthers can focus on resolving the one involving Peppers.

Carolina and Gross reached agreement Thursday on a record six-year contract worth just under $60 million that will pay out $30.5 million in the first three years of the deal, a league source said. The $30.5 million over the deal’s first three years is highest ever for an offensive lineman.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/19/pant...signing-gross/
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:02 AM   #7
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dude is going to make 16 mil this year, im sure he can live with it
No actually he won't live with it in terms of happiness. Of course he has no choice but he wants to leave Carolina and has reportedly turned down a deal that would pay him nicely.
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No actually he won't live with it in terms of happiness. Of course he has no choice but he wants to leave Carolina and has reportedly turned down a deal that would pay him nicely.
Ok am I correct that when a player receives the franchise tag, he doesn't need to get permission to seek a trade right?
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:06 AM   #9
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Ok am I correct that when a player receives the franchise tag, he doesn't need to get permission to seek a trade right?
I am fuzzy on the rules regarding trades. But to trade for him Denver would have to give up too much and they need everything they can get right now.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:09 AM   #10
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Panthers will have to rework some deals now/make some cuts before next Friday cos by my reckoning they're anywhere between $5m-$10m over the cap now.
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Ok am I correct that when a player receives the franchise tag, he doesn't need to get permission to seek a trade right?

Other teams can still talk to Peppers if it's a non-exclusive tag.

AFAIK Suggs is the only player who received the exclusive one so far.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:11 AM   #12
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So there it is. No Suggs. No Atogwe. No Peppers. Now it's a bunch of leftovers who are probably free agents for a reason.
Way to describe every FA, every offseason.
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So there it is. No Suggs. No Atogwe. No Peppers. Now it's a bunch of leftovers who are probably free agents for a reason.

We'll have to do it the hard way: We'll have to suck it up, try and draft well and build at home. If a good free agent becomes available, so be it. However we're probably going to have a bad year as we try and rebuild from the core out. In the long run it will be better this way. I just hope Xanders and McDaniels can draft. Young coaches have bad luck in the draft their first years.
Safety is the deepest position.

Bell, Jones, Phillips, Sanders, Renaldo Hill, Eugene Wilson, Mike Brown, Dawkins, Sharper and Sensabuagh will all hit the market.
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Peppers will b**** and moan a la Anquan Boldin this year...

u gotta wonder about a team that franchises a player that clearly doesnt want to be there
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So he wants to be an OLB next year, right? I would've tagged him as an OLB instead of a DE just to spite him and save $.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:19 AM   #16
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i was hoping to get a DL in FA, they take years to develop into quality starters..
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Peppers will b**** and moan a la Anquan Boldin this year...

u gotta wonder about a team that franchises a player that clearly doesnt want to be there

Would you moan if it was Denver in the same position

You dont give away All-Pro's for nothing.
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Old 02-19-2009, 11:20 AM   #18
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i was hoping to get a DL in FA, they take years to develop into quality starters..
IMHO Broncos will get one of either Olshansky or Canty and will sign Mike Wright from New England.
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So he wants to be an OLB next year, right? I would've tagged him as an OLB instead of a DE just to spite him and save $.
can't He is getting 120% of last years salary. Because that is higher than top 5 average.
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IMHO Broncos will get one of either Olshansky or Canty and will sign Mike Wright from New England.
Canty is probably going to the Dolphins. And he is wanting Tommy Kelly money.
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So there it is. No Suggs. No Atogwe. No Peppers. Now it's a bunch of leftovers who are probably free agents for a reason.
Don't let Albert Haynesworth hear you saying that about him.....he'll stomp on your head.
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So there it is. No Suggs. No Atogwe. No Peppers. Now it's a bunch of leftovers who are probably free agents for a reason.

We'll have to do it the hard way: We'll have to suck it up, try and draft well and build at home. If a good free agent becomes available, so be it. However we're probably going to have a bad year as we try and rebuild from the core out. In the long run it will be better this way. I just hope Xanders and McDaniels can draft. Young coaches have bad luck in the draft their first years.
I don't think there's any real surprises here. Peppers wasn't going to hit the open market and even if he did he wouldn't be wise to throw big money at a guy to try a new position. Atogwe and Asomugha were the only relative big-money guys I was interested in and they're both gone. It's now vital that we make the most out of our picks and I'd love to pick up more if possible for guys who won't fit into the new scheme.

Hopefully we come out of free agency with a starting safety, which seems possible in James Sanders or Jermaine Phillips. We should also be able to pick up a guy like Mike Wright to compete for a starting job at one of the DE positions. Hopefully we can snag Chris McAlister or James Bartell at the CB spot. Other than that, we're going to be looking to bring in mid-level guys who can provide depth and are smart, tough football players. It's about quantity over quality at this point in terms of free agency.
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Would you moan if it was Denver in the same position

You dont give away All-Pro's for nothing.
see, Im not sure how I would feel about that...

I would be hard pressed to fork over money for tickets and spend my SUndays rooting for a guy who hates where he plays and wants nothing more than to get out

but thats just me...I'm a fan...I dont really like looking at it from a business perspective
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