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Old 02-05-2009, 06:38 AM   #1
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After all the back and forth about free agency, I can't help coming back to the fact that Julius Peppers would have to be our #1 free agent target.

We might be running a hybrid defense, but will probably be leaning to 3-4.

He is a freakish athlete and can play DE / OLB at a pro bowl level. I say he can play 3-4 OLB because he does get used "standing up" at the end of the line, or can rush from inside or outside. He's 6'7" and already plays over 280.

We know we need to pay at least one difference maker on the line to come help this team. Make it Peppers. Can Robertson, cut Boss, get rid of Niko. Get us someone who will really make a difference.

Make it Peppers.
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Peppers would make an immediate impact and improve our line from day one. Then we could FINALLY cut Engleberger. At all cost we have to improve that spot.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:00 AM   #3
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IF CAR does indeed franchise him, then forget it. HE will cost too much, and DEN needs those draft picks. Think what MIN had to give KC last year for Allen.

But if they just let him hit the FA market, well then DEN should be the 1st place he comes to. And he shouldnt leave until hes signed.
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I think our priority should be safety. Very few rookie safeties play well and we need a lot of help.

I would like Jermaine Philips, Sean Jones, Atogwe or Leonhard. I think if we get a veteran back there with starting quality we can pair him up with a rookie or Josh Barrett depending on how TC goes.

I would like Haynesworth or Canty as a second priority. I think either will fit well as a DE and I think it would help a lot.

I am not big on giving Peppers a contract like a 4-3 DE and then playing him in a 3-4 OLB spot.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:23 AM   #5
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Isn't Peppers getting a bit.......(o-god) oldl? (Sigh) Some of you young pups should be quesitoning geriatric picks.
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Peppers also young enough to be worth an investment.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:28 AM   #7
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I think our priority should be safety. Very few rookie safeties play well and we need a lot of help.

I would like Jermaine Philips, Sean Jones, Atogwe or Leonhard. I think if we get a veteran back there with starting quality we can pair him up with a rookie or Josh Barrett depending on how TC goes.

I would like Haynesworth or Canty as a second priority. I think either will fit well as a DE and I think it would help a lot.

I am not big on giving Peppers a contract like a 4-3 DE and then playing him in a 3-4 OLB spot.
DEN needs a FS.
Jermaine Phillips cant play FS.
Sean Jones can and has played FS very well. He is very versatile.
OJ would just be incredible. Atogwe would completely solve the safety issue in DEN. Pairing him with Barrett allows barrett to just be a In-the-box/TE coverage, @$$ kicking SS. OJ can play centerfield. Sean Jones can do this as well, just not as well as OJ. Leonhard and Dawan Landry to a lesser degree are perfect examples of having a really good FS. They are really just average SS's, but becaue their assignments and responsibilites are lessened, due to having such a force in centerfield, they look like pro bowlers.
basically DEN needs OJ Atogwe.

Haynesworth or Canty. Sure. I like that plan too!
$h!t i like all the plans considering just about every one of em makes DEN much better! Which really isnt saying much for the current cr@p DEN has been running out there on defense.
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I think our priority should be safety. Very few rookie safeties play well and we need a lot of help.

I would like Jermaine Philips, Sean Jones, Atogwe or Leonhard. I think if we get a veteran back there with starting quality we can pair him up with a rookie or Josh Barrett depending on how TC goes.

I would like Haynesworth or Canty as a second priority. I think either will fit well as a DE and I think it would help a lot.

I am not big on giving Peppers a contract like a 4-3 DE and then playing him in a 3-4 OLB spot.
I agree in principle, but I think the popularity of the 3-4, supply and demand, and the sack numbers coming from 3-4 OLB's essentially makes them one of the "priority players" on any 3-4 roster. If a 3-4 OLB can generate 14-18 sacks, they should get paid like any other D-end.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:30 AM   #9
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Peppers would make an immediate impact and improve our line from day one. Then we could FINALLY cut Engleberger. At all cost we have to improve that spot.
I think we would still keep Engelberger as a rotational guy.
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Peppers would make an immediate impact and improve our line from day one. Then we could FINALLY cut Engleberger. At all cost we have to improve that spot.

I heard the same thing when Champ arrived. Yes we got impact but, it also proved ONE great player won't fix this mess. Peppers looks good on a better D but, will he look good on a D that is not nearly as good. We would be giving a boatload to one player. I'd rather wait a year or two and make such move for that final piece when our D is alot better.
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Why dont we just ask Larsen to play DE? We ask him to do everything else.
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Isn't Peppers getting a bit.......(o-god) oldl? (Sigh) Some of you young pups should be quesitoning geriatric picks.
He'll only be 29 for the entire 2009 season.....
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He'll only be 29 for the entire 2009 season.....
He'll be 32 by the time our D is really solid. Basically we had a 3 yrs of a huge contract and nothing to show for it (see Champ).

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He'll be 32 by the time our D is really solid. Basically we had a 3 yrs of a huge contract and nothing to show for it (see Champ).
Strahan looked pretty good at 36. Just sayin.
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Strahan looked pretty good at 36. Just sayin.
and for every Strahan, there are 10 washed up former talented DE's who are worth nothing.
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He'll be 32 by the time our D is really solid. Basically we had a 3 yrs of a huge contract and nothing to show for it (see Champ).
We might flip a good part of our offense in 3-4 years.

Try to win now.

Get a difference maker, then draft his replacement.

Peppers is 'da man...
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Great point, but do you feel Peppers was washed up this year with his 14.5 sacks?
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Great point, but do you feel Peppers was washed up this year with his 14.5 sacks?
Question is would he have 14.5 sacks on a bad D?
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We might flip a good part of our offense in 3-4 years.

Try to win now.

Get a difference maker, then draft his replacement.

Peppers is 'da man...
True you never know what we will actually do.
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i think peppers wouold almost immiediately change the defense. just having someone that needs to be doubled would free up doom and the others.
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Great point, but do you feel Peppers was washed up this year with his 14.5 sacks?
not yet, but i do feel that he has already hit his peak, and is about to be on the decline. his 2.5 sack season 2 seasons ago is worrisome, and the fact that about half of his sacks this season came against the Raiders and Chiefs, teams that are basically garbage right now, makes me a little cold on him. plus i tend to think if you put him on a line with less talent than the Panthers he will be just an average DE, and that isn't worth the richest DE contract in NFL history. Plus with our switch to a 3-4 defense, i don't want to pay him that much to play a position he never has before.
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Simeon Rice is looking for work.

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I'm not on board with Peppers. Why hasn't he put up those numbers for the last 3 years? Contract players annoy me, and I just don't see him bringing the attitude shift that this defense desperately needs.
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Just saying....
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