Daschle Out - The Orange Mane

frerottenextelway · 02-03-2009, 10:02 AM

good for him.

Rohirrim · 02-03-2009, 10:05 AM

Should have been vetted much deeper. Obama's first major faux pas. Who wanted to look at those silly glasses for four years anyway?

frerottenextelway · 02-03-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Should have been vetted much deeper. Obama's first major faux pas. Who wanted to look at those silly glasses for four years anyway?

It was a nice little stink but they're most likely going to end up with someone to the Left of where Daschle is - which is good for a librul like me

.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frerottenextelway

It was a nice little stink but they're most likely going to end up with someone to the Left of where Daschle is - which is good for a librul like me

.

This is true. Though Daschle does know how to navigate congress. Though if they keep letting the republican minority dictate policy, it doesnt really matter who is in his position. We'll have bloated healthcare for life. Profiting off of healthcare is ****ing disgusting

Rohirrim · 02-03-2009, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

This is true. Though Daschle does know how to navigate congress. Though if they keep letting the republican minority dictate policy, it doesnt really matter who is in his position. We'll have bloated healthcare for life. Profiting off of healthcare is ****ing disgusting

You utter rightard blasphemy! The free market is a magic force which can govern every facet of life perfectly, if only left to its own devices. Don't you know that?

Hell, just look around you right now to see what beautiful results an unregulated market can acheive?

Dukes · 02-03-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

This is true. Though Daschle does know how to navigate congress. Though if they keep letting the republican minority dictate policy, it doesnt really matter who is in his position. We'll have bloated healthcare for life. Profiting off of healthcare is ****ing disgusting

No it's companies denying coverage/ cancelling coverage to clients that is disgusting.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukes

No it's companies denying coverage/ cancelling coverage to clients that is disgusting.

Its both

Dukes · 02-03-2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Its both

I don't have a problem with people making a living, but they shouldn't be making millions while screwing people. I guess my beef is with people in general.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukes

I don't have a problem with people making a living, but they shouldn't be making millions while screwing people. I guess my beef is with people in general.

On that we agree

barryr · 02-03-2009, 10:45 AM

Poor Tommy. Now he can go back and not pay his taxes and not have to worry about anyone caring about it.

Smiling Assassin27 · 02-03-2009, 10:54 AM

Good riddance. Daschle's been part of the problem, so why was Obama trying to convince us all that he was part of the solution?

Richardson blew up on him. CIA pick was a joke. Treasury leader is a tax cheat. Quality performance appointee performed well at cheating on taxes. Waiver after waiver for his no-lobbyist rule. This administration is a certified mess. But let me guess, Obama's not accountable for any of this. Darn lemmings.

Garcia Bronco · 02-03-2009, 10:58 AM

Good riddance

Rohirrim · 02-03-2009, 11:00 AM

No doubt Obama is stumbling out of the gate. Hopefully, he can snap out of it. We all have already seen what can happen when this country has a president who is in way over his head.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

No doubt Obama is stumbling out of the gate. Hopefully, he can snap out of it. We all have already seen what can happen when this country has a president who is in way over his head.

This **** will all be forgotten. Its the stimulus plan that will be his first real test. Which is why they should worry about putting the best plan out there and not worry about bipartisan support

Rohirrim · 02-03-2009, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

This **** will all be forgotten. Its the stimulus plan that will be his first real test. Which is why they should worry about putting the best plan out there and not worry about bipartisan support

To me, Obama's first test is whether he can tell the Pelosi/Reid gang in Congress to go **** themselves. Congress is like junkies. They see a bill, they load it with pork. They can't stop themselves. It will be up to Obama to pare off the crap. I'll be interested to see if he can do it. Bush was a total tool. He didn't veto a single bill until the Dems took over Congress. Repug pork was fine for him.

Smiling Assassin27 · 02-03-2009, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

This **** will all be forgotten. Its the stimulus plan that will be his first real test. Which is why they should worry about putting the best plan out there and not worry about bipartisan support

It will only be forgotten by those with small traces of brain matter and/or those who are willing to sell their principles for anyone who is not named Bush. Also in the news, Al Qaeda is decimated and complete defeat is foreseeable according to NPR. Funny how this good news was not fit to report while the old guard was still in office. Huh.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...36&ft=1&f=1001

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

To me, Obama's first test is whether he can tell the Pelosi/Reid gang in Congress to go **** themselves. Congress is like junkies. They see a bill, they load it with pork. They can't stop themselves. It will be up to Obama to pare off the crap. I'll be interested to see if he can do it. Bush was a total tool. He didn't veto a single bill until the Dems took over Congress. Repug pork was fine for him.

Agreed on that. But I just hope he realizes that he should enact his agenda. There was a big referendum (the election) where they people put their trust in his platform. For whatever reason, the democratic congress has stockholm syndrome and gets intimidated by the republicans and their policy ideas that havent worked. And there is no compromise. To quote Krugman:

"Josh Marshall gives us David Broder talking about stimulus — which he says failed to achieve the predicted results the first time. It’s not clear whether he was referring to the TARP or the early 2008 stimulus package, but either way it’s a poor comparison. The TARP isn’t stimulus; the early 2008 package was 1/5 the size of the Obama proposal, and contained nothing but tax cuts.

But the part that really got me was Broder saying that we need “the best ideas from both parties.”

You see, this isn’t a brainstorming session — it’s a collision of fundamentally incompatible world views. If one thing is clear from the stimulus debate, it’s that the two parties have utterly different economic doctrines. Democrats believe in something more or less like standard textbook macroeconomics; Republicans believe in a doctrine under which tax cuts are the universal elixir, and government spending is almost always bad.

Obama may be able to get a few Republican Senators to go along with his plan; or he can get a lot of Republican votes by, in effect, becoming a Republican. There is no middle ground."

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

It will only be forgotten by those with small traces of brain matter and/or those who are willing to sell their principles for anyone who is not named Bush. Also in the news, Al Qaeda is decimated and complete defeat is foreseeable according to NPR. Funny how this good news was not fit to report while the old guard was still in office. Huh.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...36&ft=1&f=1001

Of course they should be! You have the most powerful government in the world against a bunch of arabs in caves. The broncos should beat a pop warner team too. Not saying terrorism isnt a concern or isnt important, but its been blown a bit out of proportion (in my opinion) and became more of a political tool than anything. Lets remember that Al Queda didnt storm the hudson river. They used horrible air/hijacking policy to their advantage.

Pseudofool · 02-03-2009, 11:23 AM

This is small fry stuff. Again, this happens every transition. Only internet political junkies are going to note this kind of stuff. It says nothing about Obama, save the very high standards he sets for his cabinet.

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:33 AM

Rumor has it that Howard Dean may be considered to replace Daschle? Interesting. I always liked Dean, he got a bad rap...and im still not sure why

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:42 AM

And i guess Dean probably shoulda been considered in the first place. Daschle is a bit of a bloodsucker. Obama seems to hate Dean for whatever reason though.

cutthemdown · 02-03-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pseudofool

This is small fry stuff. Again, this happens every transition. Only internet political junkies are going to note this kind of stuff. It says nothing about Obama, save the very high standards he sets for his cabinet.

Like I said we are all waiting for examples of what people Bush nominated that ended up not being confirmed because they did something illegal.

Having 3 withdraw seems like a lot to me. Sure questions come up but usually they end up being confirmed. You keep saying this but give no examples. I'm sure you may be right, there probably have been some, but I think to say it like you do you should have some examples.

Show me how this is par for the course.

cutthemdown · 02-03-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

And i guess Dean probably shoulda been considered in the first place. Daschle is a bit of a bloodsucker. Obama seems to hate Dean for whatever reason though.

who did dean support more Clinton or Obama?

SonOfLe-loLang · 02-03-2009, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

who did dean support more Clinton or Obama?

Clinton, but he's certainly not the only one.

frerottenextelway · 02-03-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Sure questions come up but usually they end up being confirmed.

And that's the difference between the Bush Party and the Obama Party. One side is about politics, one side is about policy.

02-03-2009, 10:02 AM	#1
frerottenextelway █████ █████ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: █████ Posts: 7,888 Adopt-a-Bronco: ██	Daschle Out good for him.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

02-03-2009, 10:05 AM	#2
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	Should have been vetted much deeper. Obama's first major faux pas. Who wanted to look at those silly glasses for four years anyway?

02-03-2009, 10:45 AM	#10
barryr Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 8,267 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Poor Tommy. Now he can go back and not pay his taxes and not have to worry about anyone caring about it.

02-03-2009, 10:54 AM	#11
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,955 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Good riddance. Daschle's been part of the problem, so why was Obama trying to convince us all that he was part of the solution? Richardson blew up on him. CIA pick was a joke. Treasury leader is a tax cheat. Quality performance appointee performed well at cheating on taxes. Waiver after waiver for his no-lobbyist rule. This administration is a certified mess. But let me guess, Obama's not accountable for any of this. Darn lemmings.

02-03-2009, 10:58 AM	#12
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Good riddance

02-03-2009, 11:00 AM	#13
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	No doubt Obama is stumbling out of the gate. Hopefully, he can snap out of it. We all have already seen what can happen when this country has a president who is in way over his head.

02-03-2009, 11:23 AM	#19
Pseudofool Cynic at Large Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Kingdom of Solipsism Posts: 2,886 Adopt-a-Bronco: Me?	This is small fry stuff. Again, this happens every transition. Only internet political junkies are going to note this kind of stuff. It says nothing about Obama, save the very high standards he sets for his cabinet.

02-03-2009, 11:33 AM	#20
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,211 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	Rumor has it that Howard Dean may be considered to replace Daschle? Interesting. I always liked Dean, he got a bad rap...and im still not sure why

02-03-2009, 11:42 AM	#21
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,211 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	And i guess Dean probably shoulda been considered in the first place. Daschle is a bit of a bloodsucker. Obama seems to hate Dean for whatever reason though.