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Old 02-03-2009, 09:21 AM   #1
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Default OT: Help! I've got sludge on my dipstick!

I knew this would get some of you pervs to open this thread!

Now the problem for those w/ any mechanical experience: I went to check my oil this morning in my truck ('96 Dodge) and there was a white sludge on my dipstick. I'm thinking head gasket but hoping it's something else. I just changed the oil pump last month and there was no presence of any sludge. I drive my truck every day and there has been no noticeable loss of power or acceleration. Anyone have any other ideas what might cause this? Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:25 AM   #2
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Well, it might get all us Pervs to open it, but I think you want the mechanics to open this thread...
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:28 AM   #3
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My first guess is Head Gasket starting to go. But you may also want to check your PCV Valve as if that fails the condensation may back up.

Other than that I have nothing else to offer.
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Being it's a Dodge I'm guessing it's a Cummins? If not, tell us more-

Many Diesel's have an integrated Cooler (sometimes mounted inside the Block or Radiator-I've seen them rupture and leak into the Oil-that's an easier fix. Is this an Automatic Transmission?

Also, there is a problem that higher stressed Diesel's have-it's called Electrolysis, and it's and expensive malady-essentially you have a sleeved engine, and the rust and contaminants in conjunction with the combustion process work togehter to create implosions which take tiny bits of sleeve and block metal away-eventually the o-rings on your sleeves can't control the anti-freeze and it gets into the oil (making it milky)-the fix is to replace the sleeves ($$$) and put on a water filter kit, although this generally happens on higher horsepower Diesels-

If it were me, I'd put a pressure tester on your Radiator and pump it up, then look for bubbles-the problem is that the Radiator works at 10-18 p.s.i. and the engine is putting out 40-80 p.s.i.-

You are heading down the right alley, generally milky colored Oil is Water in the Oil-there are other options, tell us more about your Truck-these are genrealized guesses-

The best Tech that I ever knew (and I've work and managed a lot of them)said that people always look too deep at a problem-most of them are easy fixes-
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:58 AM   #5
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Being it's a Dodge I'm guessing it's a Cummins? If not, tell us more-

Many Diesel's have an integrated Cooler (sometimes mounted inside the Block or Radiator-I've seen them rupture and leak into the Oil-that's an easier fix. Is this an Automatic Transmission?

Also, there is a problem that higher stressed Diesel's have-it's called Electrolysis, and it's and expensive malady-essentially you have a sleeved engine, and the rust and contaminants in conjunction with the combustion process work togehter to create implosions which take tiny bits of sleeve and block metal away-eventually the o-rings on your sleeves can't control the anti-freeze and it gets into the oil (making it milky)-the fix is to replace the sleeves ($$$) and put on a water filter kit, although this generally happens on higher horsepower Diesels-

If it were me, I'd put a pressure tester on your Radiator and pump it up, then look for bubbles-the problem is that the Radiator works at 10-18 p.s.i. and the engine is putting out 40-80 p.s.i.-

You are heading down the right alley, generally milky colored Oil is Water in the Oil-there are other options, tell us more about your Truck-these are genrealized guesses-

The best Tech that I ever knew (and I've work and managed a lot of them)said that people always look too deep at a problem-most of them are easy fixes-
No, not a deisel. It's has a 3.9L V6, about 189K miles on it. Nothing special. I noticed same milky substance right before I started having oil pump problems. I drained the oil and pulled off the pan and it looked pretty clean inside. It's always smoked when I started it (I've had it for about six years) but has always run pretty good. I'll probably just scrap it it it's in fact the head gasket. Not worth the money to fix. Thanks for your input.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:03 AM   #6
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It's either the head gasket, cracked block or warped head.
It's major

If it's just a head gasket that would be the easiest to fix. If it's a warped head it's a pain but salvageable. If it's the block your looking at a new motor.

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189K? What more do you expect? Shoot it, bury it, and go shopping.

Probably head gasket, but at 189k it's only the beginning.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:23 AM   #9
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189K? What more do you expect? Shoot it, bury it, and go shopping.

Probably head gasket, but at 189k it's only the beginning.
I know, I know...I just hate to spend money on a new vehicle when I could pay off a few bills instead.
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Old 02-03-2009, 10:35 AM   #10
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I know, I know...I just hate to spend money on a new vehicle when I could pay off a few bills instead.
Change the PVC Valve. If the oil looked clean and there was no milky matter in the oil pan then you are just fine.

The PCV or Positive crank case ventilation valve can cause too much pressure to build in your motor. This causes moisture to build in your engine and will blow out oil seals. It should cost you around 7 bucks at any auto store.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:41 AM   #11
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I know, I know...I just hate to spend money on a new vehicle when I could pay off a few bills instead.
Most sound financial planner say to get at least a decade out of an automobile before you buy new. Sounds like you had a good run almost 200k. Don't go so far that your truck starts costing you a ton to maintain and keep on the road.

You could probably get a killer deal on a new truck right now.
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Most sound financial planner say to get at least a decade out of an automobile before you buy new. Sounds like you had a good run almost 200k. Don't go so far that your truck starts costing you a ton to maintain and keep on the road.

You could probably get a killer deal on a new truck right now.
Yep, ford sales were down 40% in Jan
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Most sound financial planner say to get at least a decade out of an automobile before you buy new. Sounds like you had a good run almost 200k. Don't go so far that your truck starts costing you a ton to maintain and keep on the road.

You could probably get a killer deal on a new truck right now.
Did you know that you can put up to 2000 dollars into your vehicle every year and come out way ahead of buying a new one. You have to be happy with it but it is much better to fix what you have rather then buy a new one. This is the problem in America, why do you want to go more into debt when you should just fix or use what you have. Also if you car is paid off, keep making your self a car payment of 100.00 a month. You will never get a 100.00 a month car payment and this will pay for any repairs that are needed. Plus you will get paid interest on your own car loan.


If you put 2000.00 every year into your car it will look pretty nice after 10 years. Also cheaper insurance and you can make it the way you want it not the way some Dumb**** wanted it.
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Did you know that you can put up to 2000 dollars into your vehicle every year and come out way ahead of buying a new one. You have to be happy with it but it is much better to fix what you have rather then buy a new one. This is the problem in America, why do you want to go more into debt when you should just fix or use what you have. Also if you car is paid off, keep making your self a car payment of 100.00 a month. You will never get a 100.00 a month car payment and this will pay for any repairs that are needed. Plus you will get paid interest on your own car loan.


If you put 2000.00 every year into your car it will look pretty nice after 10 years. Also cheaper insurance and you can make it the way you want it not the way some Dumb**** wanted it.
Yeah, but putting $2000 worth of repairs in a veh that's only worth $1000 just sounds borderline retarded. I'm all for a $40 part here and there but $2000? I have enough for a decent down payment or to buy a more economical veh outright. Let me just tinker with the PVC valve thing for now, see if that helps any. Thanks again.
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I knew this would get some of you pervs to open this thread!

Now the problem for those w/ any mechanical experience: I went to check my oil this morning in my truck ('96 Dodge) and there was a white sludge on my dipstick. I'm thinking head gasket but hoping it's something else. I just changed the oil pump last month and there was no presence of any sludge. I drive my truck every day and there has been no noticeable loss of power or acceleration. Anyone have any other ideas what might cause this? Thanks.

In cold weather you can get condensation in the oil pan which would produce the white sludge. I noticed this on my brand new truck the first winter I had it and took it in to the dealer.

Still I would have someone check it out.
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Yeah, but putting $2000 worth of repairs in a veh that's only worth $1000 just sounds borderline retarded. I'm all for a $40 part here and there but $2000? I have enough for a decent down payment or to buy a more economical veh outright. Let me just tinker with the PVC valve thing for now, see if that helps any. Thanks again.
All i'm trying to say is, the US economy is not doing very well right now and going more into debt is not a good idea.
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Yeah, but putting $2000 worth of repairs in a veh that's only worth $1000 just sounds borderline retarded. I'm all for a $40 part here and there but $2000? I have enough for a decent down payment or to buy a more economical veh outright. Let me just tinker with the PVC valve thing for now, see if that helps any. Thanks again.
If you are financially capable of buying a "new" car then don't put large amounts of money into a car that is on it's last legs anyway (any way you slice it, a ~200k vehicle is on it's last legs). It doesn't make financial sense.

Buying new is rarely a financially sound decision, but buying used is. Let someone with money to blow pay for the deprecation in value you get from driving a new car off the lot =)
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Yeah, but putting $2000 worth of repairs in a veh that's only worth $1000 just sounds borderline retarded. I'm all for a $40 part here and there but $2000? I have enough for a decent down payment or to buy a more economical veh outright. Let me just tinker with the PVC valve thing for now, see if that helps any. Thanks again.
The reason its worth only $1000 is because everyone else (almost) rather buy a new one than repair or fix their old cars.
the depreciation rates in the US on almost every item is ridicules.
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I'm going with the PVC valve too. If you had a blown head gasket, you'd probably notice other effects like loss of power, detonation and over heating.
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pcv valve or just pop off the oil cap. If you have buildup that looks like snot on there, then you could have a blown gasket and/ or cracked head. And if thats the case, go get this Bar's leaks stuff... pretty good **** if you want to temporarily fix the problem for cheap...™

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