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Old 02-12-2009, 08:39 AM   #201
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I dont like two mocks here cause Id like the main one too mean something, but ill stick I just hate us getting so loose why not put up a vote next year for the main draftees?
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:41 AM   #202
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The draft order as it stands....

1 1-1 Lions
2 1-2 Rams
3 1-3 Chiefs
4 1-4 Seahawks
5 1-5 Browns
6 1-6 Bengals
7 1-7 Raiders
8 1-8 Jaguars
9 1-9 Packers
10 1-10 49ers
11 1-11 Bills
12 1-12 Broncos
13 1-13 Redskins
14 1-14 Saints
15 1-15 Texans
16 1-16 Chargers
17 1-17 Jets
18 1-18 Bears
19 1-19 Buccaneers
20 1-20 Cowboys > Lions — Traded Roy Williams, 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) to Cowboys for 2009 first round pick (?-?), 2009 third round pick (?-?), 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-10-14
22 1-22 Eagles
23 1-23 Vikings
24 1-24 Patriots
25 1-25 Falcons
26 1-26 Dolphins
27 1-27 Ravens
29 1-29 Colts
28 1-28 Panthers > Eagles — Traded 2008 first round pick (#19-Jeff Otah) to Panthers for 2008 second round pick (#43-Tyrell Johnson), 2008 fourth round pick (#109-Mike McGlynn), 2009 first round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-26
30 1-30 Giants
32 1-32 Titans
21 1-21 Cardinals
31 1-31 Steelers
Round 2
33 2-1 Lions
34 2-2 Chiefs
35 2-3 Rams
36 2-4 Browns
37 2-5 Seahawks
38 2-6 Bengals
39 2-7 Jaguars
40 2-8 Raiders
41 2-9 Packers
42 2-10 Bills
43 2-11 49ers
44 2-12 Redskins > Dolphins — Traded Jason Taylor to Redskins for 2009 second round pick (?-?), 2010 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-07-20
45 2-13 Saints > Jets (conditional second or third round pick if Jonathan Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) — Traded Jonathan Vilma, 2009 conditional fourth round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) to Saints for 2008 fourth round pick (#113-Dwight Lowery), 2009 conditional second or third round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) on 2008-02-29
> Giants (conditional if Jonathan Vilma does not play 85% of defensive snaps or is not re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) — Traded Jeremy Shockey to Saints for 2009 second round pick (?-?) and 2009 fifth round pick (if Jonathan Vilma does not play 85% of defensive snaps or is not re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?), or 2010 first round pick (if Jonathan Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) on 2008-07-21
46 2-14 Texans
47 2-15 Chargers > Patriots — Traded 2008 third round pick (#69-Jacob Hester) to Chargers for 2008 fifth round pick (#160-Josh Johnson), 2009 second round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-27
48 2-16 Broncos
49 2-17 Bears
50 2-18 Buccaneers
51 2-19 Cowboys
53 2-21 Jets
54 2-22 Eagles
55 2-23 Vikings
56 2-24 Falcons
57 2-25 Dolphins
58 2-26 Ravens
59 2-27 Patriots
63 2-31 Panthers
61 2-29 Giants
60 2-28 Colts
64 2-32 Titans
52 2-20 Cardinals
62 2-30 Steelers
Round 3
65 3-1 Lions
66 3-2 Rams
67 3-3 Chiefs
68 3-4 Seahawks
69 3-5 Browns > Cowboys — Traded 2008 fourth round pick (#111-Martin Rucker) to Browns for 2009 third round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-27
70 3-6 Bengals
71 3-7 Raiders
72 3-8 Jaguars
73 3-9 Packers
74 3-10 49ers
75 3-11 Bills
76 3-12 Saints > Jets (conditional second or third round pick if Jonathan Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) — Traded Jonathan Vilma, 2009 conditional fourth round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) to Saints for 2008 fourth round pick (#113-Dwight Lowery), 2009 conditional second or third round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) on 2008-02-29
77 3-13 Texans
78 3-14 Chargers
79 3-15 Broncos
80 3-16 Redskins
81 3-17 Buccaneers
82 3-18 Cowboys > Lions — Traded Roy Williams, 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) to Cowboys for 2009 first round pick (?-?), 2009 third round pick (?-?), 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-10-14
84 3-20 Jets > Packers — Traded Brett Favre, conditional 2010 pick (fifth round if Favre retires after 2008 season and Packers get Jets 2009 first round pick, sixth round if Packers get Jets 2009 second round pick, seventh round if Packers get Jets 2009 third round pick) (?-?) to Jets for 2009 conditional pick (fourth round, third round if Favre plays 50% of plays in 2008, second round if Favre plays 70% of plays and Jets make playoffs, first round if Favre plays 80% of plays and Jets make it to Super Bowl) (?-?) on 2008-08-06
85 3-21 Bears
86 3-22 Eagles
87 3-23 Vikings
88 3-24 Dolphins
89 3-25 Ravens
90 3-26 Patriots
91 3-27 Falcons
92 3-28 Giants
95 3-31 Colts
94 3-30 Panthers
96 3-32 Titans
83 3-19 Cardinals
93 3-29 Steelers
Round 4
97 4-1 Lions > Cowboys — Traded 2008 third round pick (#92-Cliff Avril) to Lions for 2008 fourth round pick (#111-Martin Rucker), 2009 fourth round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-27
98 4-2 Chiefs
99 4-3 Rams
100 4-4 Browns
101 4-5 Seahawks > Broncos (conditional) — Traded Keary Colbert to Seahawks for 2009 conditional fifth round pick (fourth round pick dependant on Colbert's playing time) (?-?) on 2008-09-16
102 4-6 Bengals
103 4-7 Jaguars
104 4-8 Raiders
105 4-9 Packers
106 4-10 Bills
107 4-11 49ers
108 4-12 Texans
109 4-13 Chargers
110 4-14 Broncos
111 4-15 Redskins > Jets — Traded Pete Kendall to Redskins for 2008 conditional fifth round pick (if Kendall plays less than 80% of snaps in 2007) or 2009 fourth round pick (if Kendall plays more than 80% of snaps in 2007) (?-?) on 2007-08-23
112 4-16 Saints
113 4-17 Cowboys
115 4-19 Jets > Saints (conditional if Jonathan Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) — Traded 2008 fourth round pick (#113-Dwight Lowery), 2009 conditional second or third round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) to Jets for Jonathan Vilma, 2009 conditional fourth round pick (if Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) on 2008-02-29
> Packers — Traded Brett Favre, conditional 2010 pick (fifth round if Favre retires after 2008 season and Packers get Jets 2009 first round pick, sixth round if Packers get Jets 2009 second round pick, seventh round if Packers get Jets 2009 third round pick) (?-?) to Jets for 2009 conditional pick (fourth round, third round if Favre plays 50% of plays in 2008, second round if Favre plays 70% of plays and Jets make playoffs, first round if Favre plays 80% of plays and Jets make it to Super Bowl) (?-?) on 2008-08-06
116 4-20 Bears
117 4-21 Buccaneers
118 4-22 Eagles
119 4-23 Vikings
120 4-24 Ravens
121 4-25 Patriots
122 4-26 Falcons
123 4-27 Dolphins
126 4-30 Colts
125 4-29 Panthers
127 4-31 Giants
128 4-32 Titans
114 4-18 Cardinals
124 4-28 Steelers
Round 5
129 5-1 Lions
130 5-2 Rams
131 5-3 Chiefs
132 5-4 Seahawks > Broncos (conditional) — Traded Keary Colbert to Seahawks for 2009 conditional fifth round pick (fourth round pick dependant on Colbert's playing time) (?-?) on 2008-09-16
133 5-5 Browns > Eagles — Traded 2008 sixth round pick (#191-Paul Hubbard) to Browns for 2009 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-27
134 5-6 Bengals
135 5-7 Raiders > Falcons — Traded DeAngelo Hall to Raiders for 2008 second round pick (?-?), 2009 fifth round pick (?-?) on 2008-03-20
136 5-8 Jaguars
137 5-9 Packers
138 5-10 49ers
139 5-11 Bills
140 5-12 Chargers
141 5-13 Broncos
142 5-14 Redskins
143 5-15 Saints > Giants (conditional if Jonathan Vilma does not play 85% of defensive snaps or is not re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) — Traded Jeremy Shockey to Saints for 2009 second round pick (?-?) and 2009 fifth round pick (if Jonathan Vilma does not play 85% of defensive snaps or is not re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?), or 2010 first round pick (if Jonathan Vilma plays 85% of defensive snaps and is re-signed by Saints to a contract extension) (?-?) on 2008-07-21
144 5-16 Texans
146 5-18 Jets
147 5-19 Bears
148 5-20 Buccaneers
149 5-21 Cowboys
150 5-22 Eagles
151 5-23 Vikings
152 5-24 Patriots
153 5-25 Falcons
154 5-26 Dolphins
155 5-27 Ravens
157 5-29 Colts
156 5-28 Panthers
158 5-30 Giants
160 5-32 Titans > Cowboys — Traded 2008 fourth round pick (#126-Lavelle Hawkins), 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) to Titans for Adam `Pacman` Jones, 2009 conditional fourth round pick (if Pacman Jones is not reinstated) or 2009 conditional fifth round pick (if Pacman Jones is reinstated but gets suspended again) (?-?) on 2008-04-24
145 5-17 Cardinals
159 5-31 Steelers
Round 6
161 6-1 Lions
162 6-2 Chiefs
163 6-3 Rams
164 6-4 Browns
165 6-5 Seahawks
166 6-6 Bengals
167 6-7 Jaguars
168 6-8 Raiders
169 6-9 Packers
170 6-10 Bills
171 6-11 49ers
172 6-12 Broncos
173 6-13 Redskins
174 6-14 Saints > Packers — Traded 2008 seventh round pick (#237-Adrian Arrington) to Saints for 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-27
175 6-15 Texans
176 6-16 Chargers
177 6-17 Jets
178 6-18 Bears
179 6-19 Buccaneers > Bears — Traded Brian Griese to Buccaneers for 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-03-03 > Buccaneers — Traded Dan Buenning to Bears for 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 9/2/08
180 6-20 Cowboys > Lions — Traded Roy Williams, 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) to Cowboys for 2009 first round pick (?-?), 2009 third round pick (?-?), 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2008-10-14
182 6-22 Eagles
183 6-23 Vikings > Eagles — Traded Kelly Holcomb to Vikings for 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) on 2007-08-27
184 6-24 Falcons
185 6-25 Dolphins > Cowboys — Traded Jason Ferguson, 2008 sixth round pick (?-?) to Cowboys for 2008 sixth round pick (?-?), 2009 sixth round pick draft pick (?-?) on 2008-02-29
186 6-26 Ravens
187 6-27 Patriots
191 6-31 Panthers
189 6-29 Giants
188 6-28 Colts
192 6-32 Titans
181 6-21 Cardinals
190 6-30 Steelers
Round 7
193 7-1 Lions > Cowboys — Traded 2009 first round pick (?-?), 2009 third round pick (?-?), 2009 sixth round pick (?-?) to Lions for Roy Williams (E.), 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2008-10-14
194 7-2 Rams
195 7-3 Chiefs > Buccaneers — Traded 2008 sixth round pick (#187-John Sullivan) to Chiefs for Michael Bennett, 2009 conditional seventh round pick (if Bennett rushes for less than 400 yards in 2007 (condition met)) (?-?) on 2007-10-16
196 7-4 Seahawks
197 7-5 Browns
198 7-6 Bengals
199 7-7 Raiders
200 7-8 Jaguars > Buccaneers — Traded 2008 second round pick (#52-Quentin Groves) to Jaguars for 2008 second round pick (#58-Dexter Jackson), 2008 fifth round pick (#158-Kellen Davis), 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2008-04-26

> Steelers — Traded Sean Mahan to Buccaneers for 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2008-09-02



Unconfirmed if the pick included in the trade is this pick or the Buccaneers own pick
201 7-9 Packers
202 7-10 49ers
203 7-11 Bills
204 7-12 Redskins > Vikings — Traded Erasmus James to Redskins for 2009 conditional seventh round pick (if James makes Redskins roster) (?-?) on 2008-05-27
205 7-13 Saints
206 7-14 Texans
207 7-15 Chargers
208 7-16 Broncos
209 7-17 Bears
210 7-18 Buccaneers

> Steelers — Traded Sean Mahan to Buccaneers for 2009 seventh round pick (?-?) on 2008-09-02



Unconfirmed if the pick included in the trade is this pick or the Jaguars pick (which the Buccaneers own)

211 7-19 Cowboys
213 7-21 Jets
214 7-22 Eagles
215 7-23 Vikings
216 7-24 Dolphins
217 7-25 Ravens
218 7-26 Patriots
219 7-27 Falcons > Broncos (conditional) — Traded Domonique Foxworth to Falcons for 2009 conditional seventh round pick (could be earlier depending on Foxworth's playing time) (?-?) on 2008-09-02
220 7-28 Giants
223 7-31 Colts
222 7-30 Panthers
224 7-32 Titans
212 7-20 Cardinals
221 7-29 Steelers
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:34 PM   #203
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Thanks, JCME. I'm going to post this in the other one.
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Old 02-12-2009, 12:54 PM   #204
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Is it confirmed whether or not the Saints have that 3rd? I am confused by that.. Help please?
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:14 PM   #205
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Yeah I posted this list, but it doesn't definitively say we get one or the other. It has every pick potentially in play on there. When does something more official come out?
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:29 PM   #206
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Is it confirmed whether or not the Saints have that 3rd? I am confused by that.. Help please?
The 4th they traded for Vilma became a 3rd due to playing time. It will change to a 2nd if they re-sign him before Free Agency. They have already traded that 2nd to the Giants for Shockey. If the Vilma pick becomes a 2nd, they will have to give the Giants their 1st, but they have said that they will wait until FA starts to resign Vilma, so it should stay as the Saints' 3rd to NYJ, and the Saint's 2nd to NYG.

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Old 02-21-2009, 11:12 AM   #207
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Almost, time, I am excited to see who everyone picks.
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Old 02-23-2009, 03:09 PM   #208
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Could someone please clarify picks 84, 115, and 174 please? I'd appreciate it!
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84 - I dont understand either

115 - Saints traded for Vilma and will owe Jets this pick

174 - Saints traded for Adrian Arrington and thus owe the Packers this pick.
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We'll need the draft order updated officially.
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Wanted to get everyone's take on this: I think that we should go with whatever order we have come draft time on Wednesday. Once we start the draft, the most current order we have will be locked in. In my mind, it's the only way to be fair once we start and trades start happening on our end.

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Wanted to get everyone's take on this: I think that we should go with whatever order we have come draft time on Wednesday. Once we start the draft, the most current order we have will be locked in. In my mind, it's the only way to be fair once we start and trades start happening on our end.

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Completely agree -- once we start making our own trades, it won't resemble reality anyway.
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Wanted to get everyone's take on this: I think that we should go with whatever order we have come draft time on Wednesday. Once we start the draft, the most current order we have will be locked in. In my mind, it's the only way to be fair once we start and trades start happening on our end.

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