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Old 01-23-2009, 03:13 PM   #1
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Default The Official Throw A Boat Load of Money At Albert Haynesworth Thread

After careful consideration of many possibilities, I've decided (in my admittedly quite uneducated opinion) that the Broncos should break the bank for Albert Haynesworth (this assumes Pat Bowlen has the means to do so).

After years of filling defensive holes with middling, stop gap free agents, its time to fix the middle of our defensive line with a real solution. Albert Haynesworth is one of a tiny handful of guys that is an enormous difference maker that effects each and every play. After years of watching our putrid (and thats being kind) defensive tackles getting ZERO push into the opposing backfield, it's time to secure a proven commodity that does it on, at least, semi-regular basis. I don't care if we are in the 3-4 (Kris Jenkins did fine with the transition), 4-3 (as someone said recently, even if you play 3-4, youre not in it THAT much because of nickle and dime. He's a monster out there and i'm sure is a game changer no matter what defense he's in. He's a guy opposing O-coordinators have to game plan for.

The idea that there is some kind of honor in only "building through the draft" and pairing them with bargain free agents that "work hard" is bogus. The Patriots were not afraid to go after a difference maker in free agency when it suited them. And Albert Haynesworth is arguably the best. This is not boss bailey, this is not gerard warren, this is not travis henry. The last time we went after a superstar of his caliber, it was Champ Bailey. That worked out pretty well for us and will continue to.

The addition of Haynesworth would probably ease the resposibility and pressure of fellow linemen and backers, which should free up a passrush. Now, with Haynesworth in place (in my dream scenario here), the work would not yet be done. I feel denver would need to sign an experienced, impact safety (Atogwe is a popular name among these parts.) There are a few in free agency that would work...Darren Sharper would be another. Once the safety is secured, drafting a guy like Maualuga makes a lot of sense to beef up the middle of the linebacker core (im sick of watching our guys get pushed around and i don't see that happening to the 260 lb Maualuga.) Even if BJ Raji somehow miraculously fell to us (i dont think he will), you can select him and go 4-3 and have a potentially dominant line from the get go. We can use the rest of the draft to strengthen the front 7 and then we have the appearance of something that might not be so frustratingly, historically awful. But I digress...

With the addtion of Haynesworth ,Rey, and the veteren safety of choice, we immediately strengthen the middle of the defense which has been an achillies heel for years now. I'm not saying this will make us top 5, but it'll get us in the 15-20 range which is what we need for a super bowl run with offensive firepower currently in place.

Now cost you ask? What about our offensive players you ask? If securing Haynesworth means losing Tony Scheffler in free agency, I'm all for it. The scale definitely tips in the dominant d-tackles favor.

It's time for the Broncos to sign an impact player that will change the culture of the entire D. This is their chance.

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Old 01-23-2009, 03:34 PM   #2
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I have three questions:


Is he a bonafide 3-4 NT?

Will he pout playing the thankless 2-gap assignment?

Will he cost more than Terrell Suggs?
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I have three questions:


Is he a bonafide 3-4 NT?

Will he pout playing the thankless 2-gap assignment?

Will he cost more than Terrell Suggs?

1) I'd assume he certainly can be. He's huge, incredibly athletic, and its still playing the D-line. Its not like he's an expert translator of Italian and then asked to translate arabic.

2) Well that will have to be taken into consideration...money talks though.

3) Yes he will, but i think he's much more valuable than t-sizzle
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:53 PM   #4
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I'd throw that money at Nnamde and Suggs, and trade Champ for an extra 1st rounder (maybe 2nd).

Add Maualugas and Peria Jerry, and we're on the road to a solid defense.
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I'd throw that money at Nnamde and Suggs, and trade Champ for an extra 1st rounder (maybe 2nd).

Add Maualugas and Peria Jerry, and we're on the road to a solid defense.
I'd be down with trading champ actually, but not signing another cornerback. Front 7, front 7, front 7.
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trade Champ for an extra 1st rounder (maybe 2nd).
lawl. Not gonna happen.
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I'd be down with trading champ actually, but not signing another cornerback. Front 7, front 7, front 7.
I wouldn't get rid of Champ unless we got another stud at the position. Nnamde is the probably the top all-around CB in the league, and getting a high round pick for Champ would be worth it.

Champ's best days are behind him, and Nnamde is just entering his prime. We've got plenty of money to sign multiple high round picks, and adding Suggs (or Bart Scott), Peria Jerry, and Maualuga would go a long way towards addressing the front 7.
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Is that what your crystal ball said?
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lawl. Not gonna happen.
Probably not likely but I certainly wouldn't rule it out with a new coaching staff coming in with the task of rebuilding the defense.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:15 PM   #10
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Putting all of our eggs in Albert Haynesworth's rather large basket would be a terrible move. We need too many pieces to invest so much in one guy. He's not a particularly good citizen, he's had some injury problems (he's averaged 12.33 games per season the last 5 years), and DT's have a history of getting fat and happy when they get their big contract. We can't go down that road.
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I say no. Build through the draft. Use FA to fill in holes and add depth.
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In addition to the benjamins, this will get Albert's attention, too:

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Is that what your crystal ball said?
Name the last time any player, let alone a 30 year old was traded for a first round draft pick. Then look up the definition of the following terms:

1)Salary cap
2)Guaranteed Contract
3)Accelerated bonus

Don't study too hard champ, your little brain might explode.
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I'd be down with trading champ actually, but not signing another cornerback. Front 7, front 7, front 7.
You're crazy Asomugha is a stud and if we could land him that would be a huge coup. Especially if we trade champ for a high pick.

Front seven also needs 2-3 new players. Probably a FA Dlineman and draft a couple promising bigger linebackers.
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Don't study too hard champ, your little brain might explode.
Dude, overreact much?

It's easy to make friends here, but don't pull into town with 50 posts and start attcking regulars like that. YA'LL BE COOL!
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Haynesworth will eat that pile of KFC or Popeyes or whatever it is once he gets this new fat contract and he will never play to the level of 2008 again! My opinion and I am sticking with it! Say no Broncos!!
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Name the last time any player, let alone a 30 year old was traded for a first round draft pick. Then look up the definition of the following terms:

1)Salary cap
2)Guaranteed Contract
3)Accelerated bonus

Don't study too hard champ, your little brain might explode.
That would be why I put in the parenthetical, sporto.
Michael Haynes was traded to for 1st and 3rd round picks at 31.

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Haynesworth will eat that pile of KFC or Popeyes or whatever it is once he gets this new fat contract and he will never play to the level of 2008 again! My opinion and I am sticking with it! Say no Broncos!!
Yeah ... he busted a cleat on my boy's noggin, too.

Can't abide by such nonsense.
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I say no. Build through the draft. Use FA to fill in holes and add depth.
Yeah that strategy has worked out well for us hasnt it.
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Name the last time any player, let alone a 30 year old was traded for a first round draft pick. Then look up the definition of the following terms:

1)Salary cap
2)Guaranteed Contract
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Don't study too hard champ, your little brain might explode.
Whats the over/under on this schmuck right here not lasting more than 2 months at the Mane?
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:06 PM   #21
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It's that time of year again. Time for the draftnicks and the FA Ogglers to start mincing words again.

Its like watching Gladiator every day...
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Big Albert Haynesworth would be the best NT in the league. He would be the best DT in a 4-3 too. In fact he would be the best DL on his team and is good enough to fit in any system. Sign him and take Rey M if he is there at 12.
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I'd rather draft BJ Raji.
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signing a guy that only plays in contract years and telling him to switch positions? yep, sounds awesome. better yet, bowlen should just go up in the blimp and throw 20 mill over invesco.
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Yeah that strategy has worked out well for us hasnt it.
haha im with you. I don't get why people think free agency is a POISON. Albert Haynesworth is NOT Dwayne Robertson, nor would we be mortgaging the future if we sign him (we have what, 40 mil in cap room about after we cut some of these worthless aholes?) He's a stud and an instant game changer.
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