B. Raji - DT - Boston College - The Orange Mane

vancejohnson82 · 01-22-2009, 08:25 AM

Kiper and a bunch of other mocks have us grabbing him...

I like it if we move to a 3-4 but not if we stick with teh 4-3...if that is the case we should grab Maulanga from USC

SoDak Bronco · 01-22-2009, 08:33 AM

either way we grab Raji. He is much more than just a 3-4 NT space eater. He can get penetration and wreck havoc in the backfield. I hope he is there at #12, he isn't the sexy pick, but either was Clady and that worked out pretty well.

We need to get a stud up front before our LB's, DB's and DE's can be successful.

want2bAbronco2 · 01-22-2009, 08:36 AM

Whats his size? Did any other NT come out that are worth a top 20 pick? I know there was Cody(i think thats his name for Bama).

Ziggy · 01-22-2009, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by want2bAbronco2

Whats his size? Did any other NT come out that are worth a top 20 pick? I know there was Cody(i think thats his name for Bama).

Raji is 6'1" 334 pounds, as measured at the senior bowl a few days ago. He's an absolute beast and is dominating in senior bowl practices by all reports. I'd be surprised if he's there at 12, since he can play in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defense and is the #1 DT in the draft. Cody is staying in school this year. Raji is the only top twenty DT that's big enough to play in the 3-4.

SouthStndJunkie · 01-22-2009, 08:47 AM

If we are serious about moving to the 3-4 defense, then Raji is probably at the top of our draft board.

Killericon · 01-22-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

If we are serious about defense, then Raji is probably at the top of our draft board.

I fixed your post for you.

no-pseudo-fan · 01-22-2009, 10:52 AM

Raji I think will be the pick, if he is there. We are going to continue to transition to a pure 3-4, so Raji being able to play NT and DT will be a huge asset.

Paladin · 01-22-2009, 11:16 AM

Sounds like Raji or Malauugutuare are the top two preferences at this time. One or the other is likely to be there......

Beantown Bronco · 01-22-2009, 11:23 AM

As a BC football fan, I've been front and center on the Raji bandwagon for awhile now. If Raji is still there at 12, and the Broncos pass on him, I will know that it was for a "good" reason.......but it won't stop me from breaking something.

no-pseudo-fan · 01-22-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

As a BC football fan, I've been front and center on the Raji bandwagon for awhile now. If Raji is still there at 12, and the Broncos pass on him, I will know that it was for a "good" reason.......but it won't stop me from breaking something.

Hopefully just wind.

Serenity NOW!!!!

gyldenlove · 01-22-2009, 11:26 AM

This this video, the guy in the red is BJ Raji, the guy in white he is moving out of the way is Eric Olsen who is a OG for Notre Dame, the guy who gets tackled in the backfield is James Aldridge.

If you do not love a DT who uses 300 lb guards to make tackles in the backfield you do not belong here.

goldengopher1976 · 01-22-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

This this video, the guy in the red is BJ Raji, the guy in white he is moving out of the way is Eric Olsen who is a OG for Notre Dame, the guy who gets tackled in the backfield is James Aldridge.

If you do not love a DT who uses 300 lb guards to make tackles in the backfield you do not belong here.

Don't see that very often...

goldengopher1976 · 01-22-2009, 11:42 AM

It's funny that that's the only video on youtube about Raji...guess that didn't make it too difficult to find just the right highlight for the thread.

Kaylore · 01-22-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

This this video, the guy in the red is BJ Raji, the guy in white he is moving out of the way is Eric Olsen who is a OG for Notre Dame, the guy who gets tackled in the backfield is James Aldridge.

If you do not love a DT who uses 300 lb guards to make tackles in the backfield you do not belong here.

He did that at the senior bowl practice just yesterday.

bap454 · 01-22-2009, 02:32 PM

Thats not even a tackle....... he has no clue where the ball runner is. His head is down and just pushes forward. The guard "guides" him away from the play ... if only the RB would have cut up the lane/ gap. Instead he continues to run right into the back of the guard and trip on both the fat turds.

Now saying that, I love his speed and power .... so Raji at twelve - Im lovin it!!

Rohirrim · 01-22-2009, 04:31 PM

I don't know what you guys have been reading, but 6'1" and 334 is very small for a NT in an NFL 3/4. Basically, you're saying, "The right guy isn't there so let's take the guy who is there and make do." Big mistake. Would you do that for QB or LT? Nope. Wait till next year. Trade up and get the Mount. Don't waste your #12 on a "make do" player. This draft is rich with very good LBs. Get your LBs this year and your NT next year.

BroncoBuff · 01-22-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't know what you guys have been reading, but 6'1" and 334 is very small for a NT in an NFL 3/4. Basically, you're saying, "The right guy isn't there so let's take the guy who is there and make do."

His measurables were upgraded to 6'2" 334. Look at the bottom of this page.

And just look at what a nice young man he is!

I love Raji (and I'm fascinated with that photo for some reason

)

I'm also really starting to like Raji's teammate 325 pound Ron Brace more and more, too ... he's a 2nd-3rd rounder. And I wanna see what Carlton Powell can do as a 2-gapper. He's small I know, but the capsule descriptions of him sound like a real 3-4 NT ... both he and Va Tech led the nation in rush avg against. I dunno how they tally that stat for an individual player, but it's impressive any way you slice it.

orange crusher · 01-22-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't know what you guys have been reading, but 6'1" and 334 is very small for a NT in an NFL 3/4. Basically, you're saying, "The right guy isn't there so let's take the guy who is there and make do." Big mistake. Would you do that for QB or LT? Nope. Wait till next year. Trade up and get the Mount. Don't waste your #12 on a "make do" player. This draft is rich with very good LBs. Get your LBs this year and your NT next year.

Casey Hampton - 6'1" 325

ludo21 · 01-22-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by orange crusher

Casey Hampton - 6'1" 325

he is an exception to the rule tho. Most NT arent very good under 350..

elsid13 · 01-22-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I don't know what you guys have been reading, but 6'1" and 334 is very small for a NT in an NFL 3/4. Basically, you're saying, "The right guy isn't there so let's take the guy who is there and make do." Big mistake. Would you do that for QB or LT? Nope. Wait till next year. Trade up and get the Mount. Don't waste your #12 on a "make do" player. This draft is rich with very good LBs. Get your LBs this year and your NT next year.

There to much fixation with weight and height on this board. The guy is a football player and can play at NT position. Teams that care to much about height, weight and 40 times and don't trust the tape get Mike Mamula not Warren Sapp.

elsid13 · 01-22-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

he is an exception to the rule tho. Most NT arent very good under 350..

Vince Wilfork DL 6-2 325

BroncoBuff · 01-22-2009, 05:18 PM

I agree, elsid ... and guys are pigeon-holing 3-4 vs. 4-3 players too tightly also. You don't need some alien humanoid life form to play the 3-4, these guys can all play some, and it's still football.

Rohirrim · 01-22-2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

His measurables were upgraded to 6'2" 334. Look at the bottom of this page.

And just look at what a nice young man he is!

I love Raji (and I'm fascinated with that photo for some reason

)

I'm also really starting to like Raji's teammate 325 pound Ron Brace more and more, too ... he's a 2nd-3rd rounder. And I wanna see what Carlton Powell can do as a 2-gapper. He's small I know, but the capsule descriptions of him sound like a real 3-4 NT ... both he and Va Tech led the nation in rush avg against. I dunno how they tally that stat for an individual player, but it's impressive any way you slice it.

I would be highly surprised if Raji or Brace were drafted into a 3/4 and were able to play 16 games at NT in the NFL. I don't see it. I agree completely re Powell. Put twenty pounds on him and he's Raji/Brace size. This is my mantra this year: Go after Mount Cody next year! And I really doubt that Casey is 325. More like 360. Tomlin yanked him last summer for being so fat.

ludo21 · 01-22-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Vince Wilfork DL 6-2 325

pwned...

I am with Roh though. After watching Raji more, I dont think he fits at NT.

Rohirrim · 01-22-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

There to much fixation with weight and height on this board. The guy is a football player and can play at NT position. Teams that care to much about height, weight and 40 times and don't trust the tape get Mike Mamula not Warren Sapp.

Or maybe too many Bronco's fans have just gotten used to always having undersized players. It would be nice to try the other side of road - for once.

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01-22-2009, 08:25 AM	#1
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	B. Raji - DT - Boston College Kiper and a bunch of other mocks have us grabbing him... I like it if we move to a 3-4 but not if we stick with teh 4-3...if that is the case we should grab Maulanga from USC

01-22-2009, 08:33 AM	#2
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	either way we grab Raji. He is much more than just a 3-4 NT space eater. He can get penetration and wreck havoc in the backfield. I hope he is there at #12, he isn't the sexy pick, but either was Clady and that worked out pretty well. We need to get a stud up front before our LB's, DB's and DE's can be successful.

01-22-2009, 08:36 AM	#3
want2bAbronco2 Pro Bowler Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 618	Whats his size? Did any other NT come out that are worth a top 20 pick? I know there was Cody(i think thats his name for Bama).

01-22-2009, 08:47 AM	#5
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	If we are serious about moving to the 3-4 defense, then Raji is probably at the top of our draft board.

01-22-2009, 10:52 AM	#7
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	Raji I think will be the pick, if he is there. We are going to continue to transition to a pure 3-4, so Raji being able to play NT and DT will be a huge asset.

01-22-2009, 11:16 AM	#8
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Sounds like Raji or Malauugutuare are the top two preferences at this time. One or the other is likely to be there......

01-22-2009, 11:23 AM	#9
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,041 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	As a BC football fan, I've been front and center on the Raji bandwagon for awhile now. If Raji is still there at 12, and the Broncos pass on him, I will know that it was for a "good" reason.......but it won't stop me from breaking something.

01-22-2009, 11:26 AM	#11
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	This this video, the guy in the red is BJ Raji, the guy in white he is moving out of the way is Eric Olsen who is a OG for Notre Dame, the guy who gets tackled in the backfield is James Aldridge. If you do not love a DT who uses 300 lb guards to make tackles in the backfield you do not belong here.

01-22-2009, 11:42 AM	#13
goldengopher1976 Choosing optimism Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 718 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steve Atwater	It's funny that that's the only video on youtube about Raji...guess that didn't make it too difficult to find just the right highlight for the thread.

01-22-2009, 02:32 PM	#15
bap454 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 984 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Thats not even a tackle....... he has no clue where the ball runner is. His head is down and just pushes forward. The guard "guides" him away from the play ... if only the RB would have cut up the lane/ gap. Instead he continues to run right into the back of the guard and trip on both the fat turds. Now saying that, I love his speed and power .... so Raji at twelve - Im lovin it!!

01-22-2009, 04:31 PM	#16
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,834	I don't know what you guys have been reading, but 6'1" and 334 is very small for a NT in an NFL 3/4. Basically, you're saying, "The right guy isn't there so let's take the guy who is there and make do." Big mistake. Would you do that for QB or LT? Nope. Wait till next year. Trade up and get the Mount. Don't waste your #12 on a "make do" player. This draft is rich with very good LBs. Get your LBs this year and your NT next year.

01-22-2009, 05:18 PM	#22
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	I agree, elsid ... and guys are pigeon-holing 3-4 vs. 4-3 players too tightly also. You don't need some alien humanoid life form to play the 3-4, these guys can all play some, and it's still football.