My mock v1.0 - The Orange Mane

chaz · 01-21-2009, 11:04 AM

With 7 RB's coming back from injury, I'm not as worried as some...especially with Turner coming back to coach them. So I'm focusing on the defense.

No trades...pointless and impossible to predict. In FA Bart Scott, Terrell Suggs, and Safety help would be targeted obviously but I'm not counting on any big time signings.

12. BJ Raji - DT 6'1" 325lbs.
Our ideal NT would be a huge first step in switching to 3-4

Raji is a big, physical lineman who commands a lot of attention. He's a good athlete who has a solid burst off the line, plays with leverage, and bull rushes opponents up the field. He has a quick first step, immediately penetrates upfield and makes plays in the backfield. He displays great strength and has an advantage against the opposition with his initial push. He gets off blocks very well and handles double teams. -Scout.com

Alternate: Everett Brown - DE/LB 6'4" 250lbs
21.5 TFL and 13.5 Sacks in '08. A freakish athlete at OLB in the 3-4, the next Merriman?

Brown is an athletic, dynamic rush end who plays with a high motor and has tremendous quickness. He has an elite first step and a few signature moves that allow him to get up field. He's incredibly strong, featuring a 480-pound bench press, and uses quickness and strength to his advantage. He uses his hands effectively, demonstrates good balance and coordination, and transitions well with the action -Scout.com

44. Alphonso Smith - CB 5'9" 190lbs (4.45s)
Playmaker at corner with 15 INT's over the last two years, height causes him to drop a few spots. Possible return man as well.

Smith is an undersized, but productive cornerback who is an outstanding playmaker. He displays good route recognition and is a determined defender. He’s effective facing the action, locates the ball quickly and possesses excellent closing speed and ball skills that allow him to turn defense into offense. He is a very instinctive defender who has a great sense. -Scout.com

76. Clay Matthews - LB 6'3" 240lbs
Badass LB with incredible motor and instincts. Could play inside in 3-4 or outside in 4-3. Falls because he lacks starting experience.

Strengths:
Active with a non-stop motor...Great strength...Excellent pass rusher and blitzer...Super intense and competitive...Very tough...Extremely versatile...Good range and flies around the field...Solid instincts...Does a fantastic job in pursuit...Outstanding special teamer...Has a knack for making impact plays...Smart with a great football IQ...Has an incomparable work ethic ... Still has upside ... Phenomenal bloodlines.

Weaknesses:
'Tweener who may not have a true position...Isn't a great natural athlete...Average size and speed...Can be too aggressive at times...Stiff and lacks fluid hips...Will struggle to match up in coverage...Poor hands and ball skills...Minor durability concerns...Doesn't have a lot of starting experience ... A self-made player and a bit of an overachiever.
-draftcountdown.com

S, OL, and RB would be focus of rounds 4-7 but I haven't gotten there...thoughts so far?

ludo21 · 01-21-2009, 11:21 AM

I like it so far.

Matthews may be our 2nd round pick tho, he is going up boards quickly and I dont want to miss the chance on him.

So 3rd round we could go CB or Safety..

mattob14 · 01-21-2009, 11:42 AM

I can't complain with Raji, and I really like Matthews. I'm on the anti-CB bandwagon though. Let's build front to back, maybe mixing in a Safety. We're already over-invested at CB.

gyldenlove · 01-21-2009, 11:51 AM

We draft at number 48 and 79, not 44 and 77.

I am fairly certain Alphonso Smith will be gone before we get on the board in the 2nd round and I am 100% sure that Clay Matthews will be gone by the 3rd round. He is shooting up fast and he should work out well.

I do like the players though.

chaz · 01-21-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gyldenlove

We draft at number 48 and 79, not 44 and 77.

Please explain? We don't stick with 12th pick in each round? Some rotation with teams with same records?

MagicHef · 01-21-2009, 12:27 PM

Here's mine. I went with the idea that in FA, we wouldn't target any huge names, but would try to get depth/possible starters in areas of weakness. Maybe it sucks, but, eh.

1 BJ Raji
2 Evander Hood
3 Rashad Johnson
4 Antoine Caldwell
5a Shawn Nelson
5b Worrell Williams
6 Tom Brandstater
7a Will Davis
7b PJ Hill

RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson
DT BJ Raji; Dewayne Robertson
LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons
JACK Elvis Dumervil; Jarvis Moss
WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard
MIKE Worrell Williams; Spencer Larsen
SAM Tim Crowder; Will Davis
CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell
SS Josh Barrett; Marquand Manuel
FS Rashad Johnson; Vernon Fox
CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams

SoDak Bronco · 01-21-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz

Please explain? We don't stick with 12th pick in each round? Some rotation with teams with same records?

No you rotate with the other 8-8 teams. Due to our opponents winning% (or lack there of) we pick first of the 8-8 teams and rotate down to the back of the pack in the following round.

SoDak Bronco · 01-21-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Here's mine. I went with the idea that in FA, we wouldn't target any huge names, but would try to get depth/possible starters in areas of weakness. Maybe it sucks, but, eh.

1 BJ Raji
2 Evander Hood
3 Rashad Johnson
4 Antoine Caldwell
5a Shawn Nelson
5b Worrell Williams
6 Tom Brandstater
7a Will Davis
7b PJ Hill

RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson
DT BJ Raji; Dewayne Robertson
LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons
JACK Elvis Dumervil; Jarvis Moss
WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard
MIKE Worrell Williams; Spencer Larsen
SAM Tim Crowder; Will Davis
CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell
SS Josh Barrett; Marquand Manuel
FS Rashad Johnson; Vernon Fox
CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams

I really hope we don't have the starting safties you have here. I think we need to get a vetran free-agent in for that position, and also would like to get some OLB/DE help as well. I think Raji will be a great addition and be that NT we need to run the 3-4 effectively.

MagicHef · 01-21-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I really hope we don't have the starting safties you have here. I think we need to get a vetran free-agent in for that position, and also would like to get some OLB/DE help as well. I think Raji will be a great addition and be that NT we need to run the 3-4 effectively.

Yeah, this is ignoring FA. If the draft played out like this, I would hope that a lot of FA attention would be used for S and OLB. I would love to get Atogwe, but I'm not sure the Rams will let him go. Really though, almost any FA safety would be an upgrade.

no-pseudo-fan · 01-21-2009, 12:41 PM

I am almost positive that Denver will draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd. Depending on F/A and trades.

cutthemdown · 01-21-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoDak Bronco

I really hope we don't have the starting safties you have here. I think we need to get a vetran free-agent in for that position, and also would like to get some OLB/DE help as well. I think Raji will be a great addition and be that NT we need to run the 3-4 effectively.

especially considering how badly Josh Barrett played when giving the chance.

He looked to me like someone who didn't know how to play the position. He's raw and from what I saw it will be a long while before he's ready to start.

MagicHef · 01-21-2009, 01:32 PM

Alright, here's mine again, with FA and a few changes.

FA:
Jermaine Phillips
Oshiomogho Atogwe (I hope)
Gabe Watson
Channing Crowder

1 BJ Raji
2 Evander Hood
3 Cody Brown
4 Antoine Caldwell
5a Shawn Nelson
5b Worrell Williams
6 Tom Brandstater
7a Will Davis
7b PJ Hill

RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson
DT BJ Raji; Gabe Watson
LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons
JACK Cody Brown; Elvis Dumervil
WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard
MIKE Channing Crowder; Worrell Williams
SAM Jarvis Moss; Will Davis
CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell
SS Jermaine Phillips; Josh Barrett
FS Oshiomogho Atogwe; Vernon Fox
CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams

Elway777 · 01-21-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz

With 7 RB's coming back from injury, I'm not as worried as some...especially with Turner coming back to coach them. So I'm focusing on the defense.

No trades...pointless and impossible to predict. In FA Bart Scott, Terrell Suggs, and Safety help would be targeted obviously but I'm not counting on any big time signings.

12. BJ Raji - DT 6'1" 325lbs.
Our ideal NT would be a huge first step in switching to 3-4

Raji is a big, physical lineman who commands a lot of attention. He's a good athlete who has a solid burst off the line, plays with leverage, and bull rushes opponents up the field. He has a quick first step, immediately penetrates upfield and makes plays in the backfield. He displays great strength and has an advantage against the opposition with his initial push. He gets off blocks very well and handles double teams. -Scout.com

Alternate: Everett Brown - DE/LB 6'4" 250lbs
21.5 TFL and 13.5 Sacks in '08. A freakish athlete at OLB in the 3-4, the next Merriman?

Brown is an athletic, dynamic rush end who plays with a high motor and has tremendous quickness. He has an elite first step and a few signature moves that allow him to get up field. He's incredibly strong, featuring a 480-pound bench press, and uses quickness and strength to his advantage. He uses his hands effectively, demonstrates good balance and coordination, and transitions well with the action -Scout.com

44. Alphonso Smith - CB 5'9" 190lbs (4.45s)
Playmaker at corner with 15 INT's over the last two years, height causes him to drop a few spots. Possible return man as well.

Smith is an undersized, but productive cornerback who is an outstanding playmaker. He displays good route recognition and is a determined defender. He’s effective facing the action, locates the ball quickly and possesses excellent closing speed and ball skills that allow him to turn defense into offense. He is a very instinctive defender who has a great sense. -Scout.com

76. Clay Matthews - LB 6'3" 240lbs
Badass LB with incredible motor and instincts. Could play inside in 3-4 or outside in 4-3. Falls because he lacks starting experience.

Strengths:
Active with a non-stop motor...Great strength...Excellent pass rusher and blitzer...Super intense and competitive...Very tough...Extremely versatile...Good range and flies around the field...Solid instincts...Does a fantastic job in pursuit...Outstanding special teamer...Has a knack for making impact plays...Smart with a great football IQ...Has an incomparable work ethic ... Still has upside ... Phenomenal bloodlines.

Weaknesses:
'Tweener who may not have a true position...Isn't a great natural athlete...Average size and speed...Can be too aggressive at times...Stiff and lacks fluid hips...Will struggle to match up in coverage...Poor hands and ball skills...Minor durability concerns...Doesn't have a lot of starting experience ... A self-made player and a bit of an overachiever.
-draftcountdown.com

S, OL, and RB would be focus of rounds 4-7 but I haven't gotten there...thoughts so far?

ALPhonso Smith is my favorite player in the draft but the Broncos have a ton of needs beside corner. If Alphonso drops to the second round ,I would be O.K. with drafting him . Everrett Brown is # 1 on my draft list then Raji. Mathews would also be a good pick in the 3 round. Really good first 3 rounds.

MagicHef · 01-21-2009, 02:58 PM

Hmm... I might like this a little better:

FA:
Jermaine Phillips
Oshiomogho Atogwe (I hope)
Gabe Watson
Channing Crowder

1 Everette Brown (unless Curry falls to us)
2 Evander Hood
3 Ron Brace
4 Antoine Caldwell
5a Shawn Nelson
5b Worrell Williams
6 Tom Brandstater
7a Will Davis
7b PJ Hill

RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson
DT Ron Brace; Gabe Watson
LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons
JACK Everette Brown; Elvis Dumervil
WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard
MIKE Channing Crowder; Worrell Williams
SAM Jarvis Moss; Will Davis; Tim Crowder
CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell
SS Jermaine Phillips; Josh Barrett
FS Oshiomogho Atogwe; Vernon Fox
CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams[/QUOTE]

Elway777 · 01-21-2009, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Hmm... I might like this a little better:

FA:
Jermaine Phillips
Oshiomogho Atogwe (I hope)
Gabe Watson
Channing Crowder

1 Everette Brown (unless Curry falls to us)
2 Evander Hood
3 Ron Brace
4 Antoine Caldwell
5a Shawn Nelson
5b Worrell Williams
6 Tom Brandstater
7a Will Davis
7b PJ Hill

RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson
DT Ron Brace; Gabe Watson
LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons
JACK Everette Brown; Elvis Dumervil
WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard
MIKE Channing Crowder; Worrell Williams
SAM Jarvis Moss; Will Davis; Tim Crowder
CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell
SS Jermaine Phillips; Josh Barrett
FS Oshiomogho Atogwe; Vernon Fox
CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams

[/QUOTE]

If the Broncos could get Brown,Hood and Brace plus sign Crowder and Atogwe then I would be happy. I don't Caldwell or Nelson will make it out of 3 round. I only think the Broncos can sign 2 free agents so that leaves Phillips out.

01-21-2009, 11:04 AM	#1
chaz highly touted recruit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,455 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Bruton	My mock v1.0 With 7 RB's coming back from injury, I'm not as worried as some...especially with Turner coming back to coach them. So I'm focusing on the defense. No trades...pointless and impossible to predict. In FA Bart Scott, Terrell Suggs, and Safety help would be targeted obviously but I'm not counting on any big time signings. 12. BJ Raji - DT 6'1" 325lbs. Our ideal NT would be a huge first step in switching to 3-4 Raji is a big, physical lineman who commands a lot of attention. He's a good athlete who has a solid burst off the line, plays with leverage, and bull rushes opponents up the field. He has a quick first step, immediately penetrates upfield and makes plays in the backfield. He displays great strength and has an advantage against the opposition with his initial push. He gets off blocks very well and handles double teams. -Scout.com Alternate: Everett Brown - DE/LB 6'4" 250lbs 21.5 TFL and 13.5 Sacks in '08. A freakish athlete at OLB in the 3-4, the next Merriman? Brown is an athletic, dynamic rush end who plays with a high motor and has tremendous quickness. He has an elite first step and a few signature moves that allow him to get up field. He's incredibly strong, featuring a 480-pound bench press, and uses quickness and strength to his advantage. He uses his hands effectively, demonstrates good balance and coordination, and transitions well with the action -Scout.com 44. Alphonso Smith - CB 5'9" 190lbs (4.45s) Playmaker at corner with 15 INT's over the last two years, height causes him to drop a few spots. Possible return man as well. Smith is an undersized, but productive cornerback who is an outstanding playmaker. He displays good route recognition and is a determined defender. He’s effective facing the action, locates the ball quickly and possesses excellent closing speed and ball skills that allow him to turn defense into offense. He is a very instinctive defender who has a great sense. -Scout.com 76. Clay Matthews - LB 6'3" 240lbs Badass LB with incredible motor and instincts. Could play inside in 3-4 or outside in 4-3. Falls because he lacks starting experience. Strengths: Active with a non-stop motor...Great strength...Excellent pass rusher and blitzer...Super intense and competitive...Very tough...Extremely versatile...Good range and flies around the field...Solid instincts...Does a fantastic job in pursuit...Outstanding special teamer...Has a knack for making impact plays...Smart with a great football IQ...Has an incomparable work ethic ... Still has upside ... Phenomenal bloodlines. Weaknesses: 'Tweener who may not have a true position...Isn't a great natural athlete...Average size and speed...Can be too aggressive at times...Stiff and lacks fluid hips...Will struggle to match up in coverage...Poor hands and ball skills...Minor durability concerns...Doesn't have a lot of starting experience ... A self-made player and a bit of an overachiever. -draftcountdown.com S, OL, and RB would be focus of rounds 4-7 but I haven't gotten there...thoughts so far? Last edited by chaz; 01-21-2009 at 11:14 AM..

01-21-2009, 01:32 PM	#12
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Alright, here's mine again, with FA and a few changes. FA: Jermaine Phillips Oshiomogho Atogwe (I hope) Gabe Watson Channing Crowder 1 BJ Raji 2 Evander Hood 3 Cody Brown 4 Antoine Caldwell 5a Shawn Nelson 5b Worrell Williams 6 Tom Brandstater 7a Will Davis 7b PJ Hill RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson DT BJ Raji; Gabe Watson LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons JACK Cody Brown; Elvis Dumervil WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard MIKE Channing Crowder; Worrell Williams SAM Jarvis Moss; Will Davis CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell SS Jermaine Phillips; Josh Barrett FS Oshiomogho Atogwe; Vernon Fox CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams Last edited by MagicHef; 01-21-2009 at 01:35 PM..

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01-21-2009, 11:21 AM	#2
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,904 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I like it so far. Matthews may be our 2nd round pick tho, he is going up boards quickly and I dont want to miss the chance on him. So 3rd round we could go CB or Safety..

01-21-2009, 11:42 AM	#3
mattob14 Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 876 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I can't complain with Raji, and I really like Matthews. I'm on the anti-CB bandwagon though. Let's build front to back, maybe mixing in a Safety. We're already over-invested at CB.

01-21-2009, 11:51 AM	#4
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	We draft at number 48 and 79, not 44 and 77. I am fairly certain Alphonso Smith will be gone before we get on the board in the 2nd round and I am 100% sure that Clay Matthews will be gone by the 3rd round. He is shooting up fast and he should work out well. I do like the players though.

01-21-2009, 12:27 PM	#6
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Here's mine. I went with the idea that in FA, we wouldn't target any huge names, but would try to get depth/possible starters in areas of weakness. Maybe it sucks, but, eh. 1 BJ Raji 2 Evander Hood 3 Rashad Johnson 4 Antoine Caldwell 5a Shawn Nelson 5b Worrell Williams 6 Tom Brandstater 7a Will Davis 7b PJ Hill RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson DT BJ Raji; Dewayne Robertson LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons JACK Elvis Dumervil; Jarvis Moss WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard MIKE Worrell Williams; Spencer Larsen SAM Tim Crowder; Will Davis CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell SS Josh Barrett; Marquand Manuel FS Rashad Johnson; Vernon Fox CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams

01-21-2009, 12:41 PM	#10
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	I am almost positive that Denver will draft a RB in the 2nd or 3rd. Depending on F/A and trades.

01-21-2009, 02:58 PM	#14
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hmm... I might like this a little better: FA: Jermaine Phillips Oshiomogho Atogwe (I hope) Gabe Watson Channing Crowder 1 Everette Brown (unless Curry falls to us) 2 Evander Hood 3 Ron Brace 4 Antoine Caldwell 5a Shawn Nelson 5b Worrell Williams 6 Tom Brandstater 7a Will Davis 7b PJ Hill RDE Evander Hood; Kenny Peterson DT Ron Brace; Gabe Watson LDE Marcus Thomas; Nic Clemons JACK Everette Brown; Elvis Dumervil WILL DJ Williams; Wesley Woodyard MIKE Channing Crowder; Worrell Williams SAM Jarvis Moss; Will Davis; Tim Crowder CB Champ Bailey; Josh Bell SS Jermaine Phillips; Josh Barrett FS Oshiomogho Atogwe; Vernon Fox CB Dre Bly; Jack Williams[/QUOTE]