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Old 01-19-2009, 06:55 AM   #1
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What is the purpose, or significance to evoking Lincoln?

What is it, the train, the bible, and the Lincoln memorial over the past few days...
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Then back on May 23rd, Hillary invoked assassination and rode it out the rest of the year...
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:04 AM   #3
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Obama identifies himself in many ways as modern day Lincoln.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:08 AM   #4
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That's kinda scary.
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What is the purpose, or significance to evoking Lincoln?

What is it, the train, the bible, and the Lincoln memorial over the past few days...
Which president signed the Emancipation Proclamation?
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:41 AM   #6
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Obama identifies himself in many ways as modern day Lincoln.
He should grow a beard and rock a top hat.
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Lincoln did one of the most terrible things in this nations history. I wouldn't
throw my lot in with a guy like that.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:56 AM   #8
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Lincoln did one of the most terrible things in this nations history. I would throw my lot in with a guy like that.
Which is what? Proclaim that the slaves were free?
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Which is what? Proclaim that the slaves were free?
In short, be a criminal:

During the Civil War, Lincoln appropriated powers no previous President had wielded: he used his war powers to proclaim a blockade, suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money without congressional authorization, and imprisoned 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial.

Further more he only freed slaves in the southern states. He did not free them in the north or what was called the Union. He freed the slaves not because of the belief that we hold now, but because he and his "cabal" felt in would give them a military advantage.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:43 PM   #10
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In short, be a criminal:

During the Civil War, Lincoln appropriated powers no previous President had wielded: he used his war powers to proclaim a blockade, suspended the writ of habeas corpus, spent money without congressional authorization, and imprisoned 18,000 suspected Confederate sympathizers without trial.

Further more he only freed slaves in the southern states. He did not free them in the north or what was called the Union. He freed the slaves not because of the belief that we hold now, but because he and his "cabal" felt in would give them a military advantage.

So, he was kinda like Bush.
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So, he was kinda like Bush.
Very much so.
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If that's the case, why aren't you making excuse for his actions? You know, the congress did it, the house did it, etc.......
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If that's the case, why aren't you making excuse for his actions? You know, the congress did it, the house did it, etc.......
When Lincoln suspended habeas corpus he did so WITHOUT congressional approval. Which is the body sanuctioned by the Constitution to suspend habeas corpus.
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Which president signed the Emancipation Proclamation?
Wow! /sarcasm
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Lincoln did one of the most terrible things in this nations history. I wouldn't
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Uh-oh...

not saying i disagree w/you either.
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So, he was kinda like Bush.
Except the country really was in danger in 1861. There wasn't a manufactured
war used as an excuse to grab power as in the case of Dick Cheney and his
puppet George W Bush.
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Except the country really was in danger in 1861. There wasn't a manufactured
war used as an excuse to grab power as in the case of Dick Cheney and his
puppet George W Bush.
The Civil War was manufactured in the sense that humans made decisions to bring about it's birth. And it was very much about a power grab.
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The Civil War was manufactured in the sense that humans made decisions to bring about it's birth. And it was very much about a power grab.
Not by Lincoln.
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Not by Lincoln.
I could agree with that. But it all goes back to the tariff act of 1828 which was an economic power grab by northern states.
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I could agree with that. But it all goes back to the tariff act of 1828 which was an economic power grab by northern states.
Horse pucky , everyone knows the Civil war was over grits ....... See the South wanted to make grits the national food , the north would have none of that ... so they fought
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Horse pucky , everyone knows the Civil war was over grits ....... See the South wanted to make grits the national food , the north would have none of that ... so they fought
And I suspect that you, sir, were there to throat punch them!
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And I suspect that you, sir, were there to throat punch them!
no but I did tell Gen Lee that the North had a shortage of women , and that union soldiers would be coming to take Southern women back north good thing they didnt have the internets back then
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no but I did tell Gen Lee that the North had a shortage of women , and that union soldiers would be coming to take Southern women back north good thing they didnt have the internets back then
I wonder what might have happened if Lee would've listened to his advisors at Gettysburg. He sure made a helluva mistake there.
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I wonder what might have happened if Lee would've listened to his advisors at Gettysburg. He sure made a helluva mistake there.
I pledge of Allegiance to the Confederacy flag of the Confederate states , to the Confederacy for witch it stands one Nation Under Elvis with grits and Catfish for all or something to that effect ...........
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I pledge of Allegiance to the Confederacy flag of the Confederate states , to the Confederacy for witch it stands one Nation Under Elvis with grits and Catfish for all or something to that effect ...........
Yeah probably hahaha
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