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Old 01-15-2009, 06:24 PM   #1
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I guess I just want to know why everyone's reason's for why Dewayne Robertson can't play NT for us next year. He played 34 games there, had 119 tackles and 6.5 sacks there in the two season's the Jets moved to the 3-4. I'm sure the knee will be brought up and that he didn't like playing in the 3-4 will be brought up as well. From a stat point of veiw he played better at a NT in the 3-4 then he ever did as a DT in the 4-3. Stat wise he is right there with Jamal Williams and Casey Hampton two of the best NTs in the game. So lets here the reason's why we should look elsewhere for a NT.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:38 PM   #3
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At 317, he's a bit small for NT. The premier NT's are upward of 335. Williams in SD is 348 on a light day. Ngata's 345 and Jenkins is 350. Hampton's 325 but he's the exception, I'd say.

Over 16 games, a 317 pound NT will be pounded into submission. Get some fatties in there.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:39 PM   #4
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Stats show nothing when it comes to DL play in the 3-4. The main problem with Robertson is that he doesn't command double teams, so one of the ILBs will be blocked by a guard on every play and that ruins the system. The reason Jamal Williams and Hampton and Wilfork are so good as NGs are that you need at least 2 offensive linemen to block them on every play and that creates room for the linebackers to make plays.

Robertson was never convincing as a NG and he hates playing there so the huge bonus he is due will be paid to a player who is unhappy and that is not good business.
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Is it FACT that we are switching to 3-4?
Im sure this has been answered so please dont kill me (there's been an abundance of new threads as of late, so it's a bit difficult to keep up) I'd just like to know.
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At 317, he's a bit small for NT. The premier NT's are upward of 335. Williams in SD is 348 on a light day. Ngata's 345 and Jenkins is 350. Hampton's 325 but he's the exception, I'd say.

Over 16 games, a 317 pound NT will be pounded into submission. Get some fatties in there.
even though he played all 16 games in each of the two seasons he played at NY?
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Jets run defense was 24th in 2006 and 29th in 2007. Not Robertson's fault alone, but thats him in a 3-4.


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Jets run defense was 24th in 2006 and 29th in 2007. Not Robertson's fault alone, but thats him in a 3-4.


hey that's an upgrade for us.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:58 PM   #9
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hey that's an upgrade for us.

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Too small. Its that simple. Its math. In football you could be stronger more athletic and a lot tougher than the man infront of you but down after down the fattie will wear you down. Every time he leans on you, its a 350+lb bench press. Everytime you try to shove him back its a squat of 500+lb, over and over for 4 seconds, followed by 4 seconds of sprinting (pursuit).

Over and over again, ur going to be gassed, infact most DTs that are underweight will get winded within a series. Just not a good idea.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:48 PM   #11
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Is it FACT that we are switching to 3-4?
Im sure this has been answered so please dont kill me (there's been an abundance of new threads as of late, so it's a bit difficult to keep up) I'd just like to know.
it hasn't been decided completely, but with Nolan and Capers being 3-4 defensive coaches as well as McDaniels being used to the 3-4 in NE it seems more likely we will become a 3-4 defense.

although i have read that Nolan is a guy who won't stuff players into a certain scheme, but will mold his scheme to his players.
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Old 01-15-2009, 07:52 PM   #12
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Robertson a little small to play NT in a 3-4. One reason he wore down a bit in NY was because they had him doing that.
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Robertson also doesnt want to play NT. Next theory.
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How about Robertson to DE in 3-4. This is sans a $10 mil roster.

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Old 01-16-2009, 02:32 AM   #15
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I fully expect Robinson gone.
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Don't forget his bone-on-bone knee problem.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:16 AM   #17
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He's too expensive for a mediocre nose in a 3-4. That being said, it appears he might also be too expensive for UT in a 4-3.
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How about Robertson to DE in 3-4. This is sans a $10 mil roster.
the roster bonus can be spread out over years....Thomas is more 3-4 DE then Robertson.
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As others have pointed out, he isn't big enough to play NT in a 3-4 and will cost a lot of money and may not be around even if using a 4-3. Broncos need DL that make plays. The last few years, the DL has been MIA way too often.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:40 AM   #21
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1) He had a much easier job as a 4-3 DT and didn't do very well.
2) he's getting old.
3) his knees are run down.
4) He's too small.
5) He costs too much.
6) He came here to be a 4-3 DT and prolong his career.

His only hope is that we stick with the 4-3 and he reduces his contract. Otherwise he would fit in great with another team.
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Is it FACT that we are switching to 3-4?
No and Nolan has run a 4-3 when the personnel were more suited for it before. Nolan wants a 3-4 and will build toward that but he's also someone who works with what he has.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:19 AM   #24
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Robertson at DE in a 3-4 might be a better fit since the DE in a 3-4 is a lot like a DT in a 4-3. Not to mention that a 3-4 DE typically costs less, so maybe we can get him to restructure to stay in Denver.
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