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Old 01-15-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...efensive-redo/

The club also could look to re- work the contract of defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, who's owed a $17 million roster bonus, $10 million of which is guaranteed and can be converted to a signing bonus that is apportioned over several years.


This had better be a misprint and I've e-mailed both Rasizer and Legwold to comfirm it.

Everywhere else had Robertson's total of his 6 year contract only coming to $24m and nearly $14m has been accounted for his base salaries through 2013 and a $3m roster bonus last year.



The best about it is they state $10m of it's guaranteed. If this is true then what the **** where Shanahan/Goodman and even Bowlen thinking about when they dealt for this guy and his knees

If this is indeed correct that's over 1/2 of our estimated $30m cap room gone up in smoke in one fatal swoop because this ludicrous figure was never mentioned anywhere before.
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The club also could look to re- work the contract of defensive tackle Dewayne Robertson, who's owed a $17 million roster bonus, $10 million of which is guaranteed and can be converted to a signing bonus that is apportioned over several years.


This had better be a misprint and I've e-mailed both Rasizer and Legwold to comfirm it.

Everywhere else had Robertson's total of his 6 year contract only coming to $24m and nearly $14m has been accounted for his base salaries through 2013 and a $3m roster bonus last year.



The best about it is they state $10m of it's guaranteed. If this is true then what the **** where Shanahan/Goodman and even Bowlen thinking about when they dealt for this guy and his knees

If this is indeed correct that's over 1/2 of our estimated $30m cap room gone up in smoke in one fatal swoop because this ludicrous figure was never mentioned anywhere before.
I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

In the wake of a $225 million dollar increase in the NFL's salary cap for 2009, the Denver Broncos are in great position to make a splash in a very strong free agency pool.

Currently, the Broncos rank 25th in the NFL with just under $99 million in salary for 2008. However, Dre' Bly accepted a pay cut at the beginning of this season, so that will free up another $4-to-5 million for the Broncos.

Rest assured, Denver will give a complete makeover to its defense, which ranked 30th in the NFL in 2008. That makeover could result in the departures of Marlon McCree, Vernon Fox, Marquand Manuel, Nate Webster, Boss Bailey, Ebenezer Ekuban, Kenny Peterson, John Engelberger, Niko Koutouvides, Dewayne Robertson, and Karl Paymah.

While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.
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$50 Million Dollars to play with?

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I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

In the wake of a $225 million dollar increase in the NFL's salary cap for 2009, the Denver Broncos are in great position to make a splash in a very strong free agency pool.

Currently, the Broncos rank 25th in the NFL with just under $99 million in salary for 2008. However, Dre' Bly accepted a pay cut at the beginning of this season, so that will free up another $4-to-5 million for the Broncos.

Rest assured, Denver will give a complete makeover to its defense, which ranked 30th in the NFL in 2008. That makeover could result in the departures of Marlon McCree, Vernon Fox, Marquand Manuel, Nate Webster, Boss Bailey, Ebenezer Ekuban, Kenny Peterson, John Engelberger, Niko Koutouvides, Dewayne Robertson, and Karl Paymah.

While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.
That article was written by an idiot who thinks you base your 2009 cap room on player's salaries from the year before.

We were closer to $30m under before this Robertson rocket hit my cap dreams.
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Any new GM in Cleveland will be ****ing raging that he's been left with a $5m guaranteed roster bonus for Derek Anderson.

I'd love to see Nolan's face when he's told Robertson's on the books for a guaranteed $10m minimum (whether he's cut or not) and he's useless to us in a 3-4.
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That article was written by an idiot who thinks you base your 2009 cap room on player's salaries from the year before.

We were closer to $30m under before this Robertson rocket hit my cap dreams.
They'll never pay the bonus, he'll be cut
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We're going to have to pay Marshall very soon, that won't be cheap.

Kuper and Scheffler will be kept too, they won't be mega bucks deals but they'll get a lot more than they earn now. Dumervil too if he can adjust to the 3-4, assuming we go with it.

So it's not like we can go out and spend mega bucks just because we have the cap room now.

I'll be disappointed if we don't pursue at least one marquee guy though, Suggs does seem the most logical fit with Nolan in as DC.
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That can't be right.
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They'll never pay the bonus, he'll be cut
At least $10m is guarenteed. Unless that really is a misprint.
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Any new GM in Cleveland will be ****ing raging that he's been left with a $5m guaranteed roster bonus for Derek Anderson.

I'd love to see Nolan's face when he's told Robertson's on the books for a guaranteed $10m minimum (whether he's cut or not) and he's useless to us in a 3-4.
I dont get the impression that its 10 million guaranteed if he's cut. i think its just if he stays on the team.
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At least $10m is guarenteed. Unless that really is a misprint.
I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus? I think? im not sure how that works, but it just cannot be accurate that they'd accept that. No football contracts are like that!
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I dont get the impression that its 10 million guaranteed if he's cut. i think its just if he stays on the team.
If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.
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I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus? I think? im not sure how that works, but it just cannot be accurate that they'd accept that. No football contracts are like that!
If it is true, he'll be owed 10 million dollars no matter what happens to him.
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If it is true, he'll be owed 10 million dollars no matter what happens to him.
Granted, im hardly a capologist, but nfl contracts are so rarely guarenteed like that...i cant see how Dwayne robertson is the exception. I think its only if they pick up the bonus, which they wont.
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If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.
Eddie Mac, are these guys usually reliable with cap issues?
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If it's guaranteed it means he gets it whether he's cut or not. Same with Javon Walker last season. Broncos had to pay Javon something like $3m odd to walk.

I'm hoping it's a misprint, if it isn't I'll be really ****ed off with our front office for what was a ludicrous contract offer for a player with so many medical issues.
I think it is..not a misprint as much as a poor choice of words. I dont think they'd ever have made a contract where he was guarenteed 10 million.
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I thought DEN has 41 Million to spend?
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...2009-offseason

If you are not a big fan of all of the financial mumbo-jumbo that goes on in the NFL, you are not alone.

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While I personally would retain Paymah, and possibly Webster out of that group, the rest may as well pack their bags. Those departures would leave the Broncos with a team salary of about $75 million, freeing up an astounding $50 million dollars in cap space.

Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space. Pat Bowlen's new GM and Head Coach will likely have $41 million dollars to spend on a new defense.
I wonder if cutting Boss will create any problems with Champ? I know if it was me, I'd have a hard time stomaching my team dumping my brother. Hard to be objective when family's involved . . .
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Lets see I'm on a team switching to the 3-4 which is not something I care for. I've got bad knees and they will want me to take a beating at NT. Yet I'm going to walk with atleast 10mil and they want me to rework my contract Bwhahahahahahaa
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Hey maybe this was are big surprise
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Denver's nine draft picks will likely consume about $8-to-9 million of that cap space.
Denver got around $4.9M when they picked at #12 last year, it's not going to be too much more this year.
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I think the 10 million is guarneteed within the roster bonus?
Yep. It's a typical bronco two-tier contract of having a big guarentee built in the second year to protect themselves in case he busts out the first year.

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The $17 million ($10 guarenteed) would be spread across the next 4 years if he makes the roster this upcoming year.
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Yep. It's a typical bronco two-tier contract of having a big guarentee built in the second year to protect themselves in case he busts out the first year.

People are funny.
Yeah, thats what i figured. I knew he wouldnt get it if they didnt pick it up
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