Sirius NFL Radio: O'Brien hired by Patriots, Priefer likely new ST coach in Denver - The Orange Mane

montrose · 01-14-2009, 09:03 AM

Sirius NFL Radio just reported that former Broncos ST coach Scott O'Brien has accepted a job on the Patriots staff and that Chiefs ST Coach Mike Priefer will likely take over the ST duties for the Broncos.

Here's Priefer's bio:
http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/mike_priefer/

HEAV · 01-14-2009, 09:05 AM

Another Ohio boy!

TonyR · 01-14-2009, 09:05 AM

Something tells me that O'Brien will have a lot more success in NE than he had in Denver. The guy was considered one of the best before working for the Broncos.

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-14-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Something tells me that O'Brien will have a lot more success in NE than he had in Denver. The guy was considered one of the best before working for the Broncos.

No doubt. As long as I've been a broncos fan, the broncos have sucked on ST (with the exception of the Darrien Gordon years)

Traveler · 01-14-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Something tells me that O'Brien will have a lot more success in NE than he had in Denver. The guy was considered one of the best before working for the Broncos.

Any reason why that is?

baja · 01-14-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Any reason why that is?

As time goes by some of those reasons are going to come out. IMO

HEAV · 01-14-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Any reason why that is?

I wanna say talent...or the lack there of it.

Paladin · 01-14-2009, 09:18 AM

Care to give just one, Baja?

A lot of shifting going on. eh?

jutang · 01-14-2009, 09:24 AM

Imagine if Dennison, Bates, and Turner left for the Patriots!

O'Brien was a disappointment. I really expected the ST to turn around, but it never really happened. Added that Prater got worse as the yr went along was also disheartening. Even the guys kickoffs were comparable to Elam's at seasons end.

Why ST have been so bad for so long is a real mystery.

baja · 01-14-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Care to give just one, Baja?

A lot of shifting going on. eh?

What is the common denominator?

The little man upstairs is the common denominator

HooptyHoops · 01-14-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Sirius NFL Radio just reported that former Broncos ST coach Scott O'Brien has accepted a job on the Patriots staff and that Chiefs ST Coach Mike Priefer will likely take over the ST duties for the Broncos.

Here's Priefer's bio:
http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/mike_priefer/

Even though he's a Chief, his stats for a ST coach are pretty impressive...

Traveler · 01-14-2009, 09:40 AM

Maybe McD will it ST more of a priority than his predecessor.

TheReverend · 01-14-2009, 09:41 AM

Well that sucks.

TonyR · 01-14-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

I wanna say talent...or the lack there of it.

That's got to be the primary reason. Special teams are usually filled with your backup talent which is something this team doesn't have much of due in large part to draft failure every year prior to the last 3.

montrose · 01-14-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Any reason why that is?

One reason is no consistency in personnel. Since Darrien left we've gone through several returns like Kasper, Cole, Adams, Hixon, Martinez and Hall to name a few. Furthermore, we haven't had much consistency on our units with different reserves playing the part week-to-week, let alone year-to-year. Until this year, we also overloaded on DBs and WRs to play special teams while if you look at teams like Buffalo that thrive in that area - they are loaded at LB. The reason is that LBs have become so much quicker, their size and speed works well on the units. When we had Niko, Larsen, Woodyard, Winborn and Green all playing special teams at the same time - it was the best I'd seen our unit look in years. I'm disappointed Niko will be gone because, while he was a bust at MLB - he was the best pure STer we've had since Keith Burns.

TonyR · 01-14-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jutang

Added that Prater got worse as the yr went along was also disheartening. Even the guys kickoffs were comparable to Elam's at seasons end.

I found that particularly troubling as well. One of the main reasons I talked myself into being okay with letting Elam go was that he was a liability on kickoffs, and when Prater became the same I didn't feel quite as good about it...

Hotrod · 01-14-2009, 09:48 AM

Depth Depth and serious lack of Depth is a big reason our ST is so ****ing special.

Kaylore · 01-14-2009, 09:53 AM

"Bob says I develop Franchise Punters, whatever the hell that is..."

Garcia Bronco · 01-14-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dortoh

Depth Depth and serious lack of Depth is a big reason our ST is so ****ing special.

That and O'Brien was a poor coach

Rohirrim · 01-14-2009, 09:59 AM

The only reason O'Brien couldn't succeed in Denver is because Shanahan considered STs the last item on his priority list and pretty much used STs as a practice squad for the team. Interesting that Belichick would snatch O'Brien up.

tsiguy96 · 01-14-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

The only reason O'Brien couldn't succeed in Denver is because Shanahan considered STs the last item on his priority list and pretty much used STs as a practice squad for the team. Interesting that Belichick would snatch O'Brien up.

considering he only has essentially the best staff work for him, its telling of how shanahan thought of special teams. i expect to see that part of the game improve dramatically.

HEAV · 01-14-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

What is the common denominator?

The little man upstairs is the common denominator

The little man upstairs was the common denominator

baja · 01-14-2009, 10:11 AM

I think Mike had control screwed down too tight and it was effecting the team as a whole. All Bronco personal, players and coaches alike were making decisions to please Mike not what they thought was best for the team. I understand there is no way to know this at this time but there are indications this might be the case. It is this possibility that I think will be reveled if in fact there is any truth to it.

Majik · 01-14-2009, 10:12 AM

To sum every bodies thoughts up. Its this guy's fault.

Poor drafts and inept importance of special teams, lead to lack of commitment to improve the special teams.

Broncos_OTM · 01-14-2009, 10:19 AM

Its interesting. Players who respect there coaches play there hearts out. i didnt see any or hardly any heart this season. when shanny was fired at first i was shocked. but i really do think it was the best thing for this franchise

01-14-2009, 09:03 AM	#1
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Sirius NFL Radio: O'Brien hired by Patriots, Priefer likely new ST coach in Denver Sirius NFL Radio just reported that former Broncos ST coach Scott O'Brien has accepted a job on the Patriots staff and that Chiefs ST Coach Mike Priefer will likely take over the ST duties for the Broncos. Here's Priefer's bio: http://www.kcchiefs.com/coach/mike_priefer/

01-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#9
jutang Pro Bowler Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 648	Imagine if Dennison, Bates, and Turner left for the Patriots! O'Brien was a disappointment. I really expected the ST to turn around, but it never really happened. Added that Prater got worse as the yr went along was also disheartening. Even the guys kickoffs were comparable to Elam's at seasons end. Why ST have been so bad for so long is a real mystery. Last edited by jutang; 01-14-2009 at 09:29 AM..

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01-14-2009, 09:05 AM	#2
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Another Ohio boy!

01-14-2009, 09:05 AM	#3
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,569	Something tells me that O'Brien will have a lot more success in NE than he had in Denver. The guy was considered one of the best before working for the Broncos.

01-14-2009, 09:18 AM	#8
Paladin Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 9,150	Care to give just one, Baja? A lot of shifting going on. eh?

01-14-2009, 09:40 AM	#12
Traveler Traveling Man! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Maybe McD will it ST more of a priority than his predecessor.

01-14-2009, 09:41 AM	#13
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,998 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Well that sucks.

01-14-2009, 09:48 AM	#17
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Depth Depth and serious lack of Depth is a big reason our ST is so ****ing special.

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Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,050 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	"Bob says I develop Franchise Punters, whatever the hell that is..."

01-14-2009, 09:59 AM	#20
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,840	The only reason O'Brien couldn't succeed in Denver is because Shanahan considered STs the last item on his priority list and pretty much used STs as a practice squad for the team. Interesting that Belichick would snatch O'Brien up.

01-14-2009, 10:11 AM	#23
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,885 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I think Mike had control screwed down too tight and it was effecting the team as a whole. All Bronco personal, players and coaches alike were making decisions to please Mike not what they thought was best for the team. I understand there is no way to know this at this time but there are indications this might be the case. It is this possibility that I think will be reveled if in fact there is any truth to it.

01-14-2009, 10:12 AM	#24
Majik Man7 3-0 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 647	To sum every bodies thoughts up. Its this guy's fault. Poor drafts and inept importance of special teams, lead to lack of commitment to improve the special teams.

01-14-2009, 10:19 AM	#25
Broncos_OTM Born Again HOOLIGAN Broncos Over All Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,540 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Its interesting. Players who respect there coaches play there hearts out. i didnt see any or hardly any heart this season. when shanny was fired at first i was shocked. but i really do think it was the best thing for this franchise