What current Broncos do you want in Mike Nolan's 3-4 defense? - The Orange Mane

montrose · 01-14-2009, 11:01 AM

This assuming we go to a 3-4, choose all that apply.

Florida_Bronco · 01-14-2009, 11:05 AM

Personally I don't want to cut very many players from our defense, but I do want to upgrade the starting positions and have starters from 08 like McCree, Manual and Webster to be playing on special teams.

Gcver2ver3 · 01-14-2009, 11:05 AM

i want to see Doom get a chance at the SAM (and Moss too)...

i want to see Woodyard play the Jack (although him playing SS with Champ moving to FS sounds intriguing)...

Thomas to play end...

DJ to play Will...

that's about it...

Gcver2ver3 · 01-14-2009, 11:08 AM

if anyone chooses Nate Webster i'll kill ya...

Gcver2ver3 · 01-14-2009, 11:08 AM

same for engleberger...

Kaylore · 01-14-2009, 11:25 AM

I voted for John Engleberger because I want to see what Popps will do.

Kaylore · 01-14-2009, 11:26 AM

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

Inkana7 · 01-14-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

Not at all. I voted for him.

SureShot · 01-14-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

No I think it is a perfect fit. You need a thumper in the middle of the 3-4.
I would also like to give Doom a chance in the 3-4 he is a competitor and can get after the QB.

PRBronco · 01-14-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

Heck no. Didn't Arizona use a funky 3-4ish defensive front 7 anyways?

montrose · 01-14-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

As crazy as I am for thinking Boss Bailey could maybe (although I didn't vote for him) be a 3-4 OLB.

cutthemdown · 01-14-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Personally I don't want to cut very many players from our defense, but I do want to upgrade the starting positions and have starters from 08 like McCree, Manual and Webster to be playing on special teams.

McCree and Manual can't tackle though. I want hungry players on ST that throw bodies around. IMO only Webster fits the bill on the players you mentioned.

cutthemdown · 01-14-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by montrose

As crazy as I am for thinking Boss Bailey could maybe (although I didn't vote for him) be a 3-4 OLB.

yes you are crazy. Boss Bailey is like 235 pounds and not big enough to play linebacker in a 3-4. We go 3-4 and all of our linebackers except Larsen and DJ IMO will have to go.

socalorado · 01-14-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

Not only did i vote for him, i think he will anchor a ILB duo in the 3-4 of
Larsen/Maualuga......hopefully.
I would love to see teams try to run up the gut on that!
I actually voted for alot of the LBs
Larsen
WWIII
DJ (yes i did!)
Winbourn ( i think as a reserve)

Dudeskey · 01-14-2009, 11:37 AM

Woodyard & Williams would be a good fit pared up @ ILB. IMO Doom's a better served playing DE in a 4-3, he could get us some value somewhere. But I've been wrong about him before. I thought tackles were going to push him around in the NFL w/ his size. Moss for sure needs to be given a shot @ OLB wether it be will or sam.

Hotrod · 01-14-2009, 11:37 AM

Whoops I voted more based on who I thought Would be involved more then who I Wanted to be.

Face it if we are going 3-4 some of our square pegs are going to have to be shoved into a somewhat round hole....atleast for the first year or two.

cutthemdown · 01-14-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SureShot

No I think it is a perfect fit. You need a thumper in the middle of the 3-4.
I would also like to give Doom a chance in the 3-4 he is a competitor and can get after the QB.

actually you need to 2 big stout run defenders in the middle for a good 3-4. With only 1 DT in front of them they have to be able to take on Olineman and shed those blocks to make plays.

PRBronco · 01-14-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

Not only did i vote for him, i think he will anchor a ILB duo in the 3-4 of
Larsen/Maualuga......hopefully.
I would love to see teams try to run up the gut on that!
I actually voted for alot of the LBs
Larsen
WWIII
DJ (yes i did!)
Winbourn ( i think as a reserve)

Something to keep in mind is that Nolan was the coach of the Niners when they got rid of winborn.

cutthemdown · 01-14-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dudeskey

Woodyard & Williams would be a good fit pared up @ ILB. IMO Doom's a better served playing DE in a 4-3, he could get us some value somewhere. But I've been wrong about him before. I thought tackles were going to push him around in the NFL w/ his size. Moss for sure needs to be given a shot @ OLB wether it be will or sam.

If you put those 2 Lbers in the middle of a 3-4 you would get run on all day. You just can't play the middle in a 3-4 at 230 pounds like Woodyard is. DJ may be big enough but he would need a big stout partner to help him out. Someone like a Bart Scott from Balt or a rookie like Malualuga.

HEAV · 01-14-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gcver2ver3

if anyone chooses Nate Webster i'll kill ya...

He's a freeagent anyway.

gyldenlove · 01-14-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

I think it makes good sense, in the 3-4 you need ILBs with excellent football IQ and solid instincts who can tackle. I think Larsen would make a pretty good ILB. If we pair him up with a sideline to sideline athlete it could be really good.

My biggest hope by a mile is that DJ Williams will turn into Mike Vrabel. He can be that sort of zone, run, cover guy who blitzes a few times but mostly does the dirty work.

socalorado · 01-14-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PRBronco

Something to keep in mind is that Nolan was the coach of the Niners when they got rid of winborn.

I am just thinking of a reserve situation. He played hard for DEN, ( and celebrated waaay tooo much!) and seemd to improve. In case of injury, its nice to have a veteran.

HEAV · 01-14-2009, 11:44 AM

Sadly I can't see Elvis Dumervil working in the 3-4. He could be traded sadly...

Nice guy, great motor but not a 3-4 DE and linebacker may be too much to ask for.

jmz313 · 01-14-2009, 11:45 AM

I just want to see these guys play when there are consiquinces for bad play. I think everyone except DJ and Robertson can be successful with nolan. DJ needs a change, he;s been praise here too long to change. Robertson, well he just hates 3-4 and has not been good as a NT in the past. Thats how he got to denver.

Dudeskey · 01-14-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

If you put those 2 Lbers in the middle of a 3-4 you would get run on all day. You just can't play the middle in a 3-4 at 230 pounds like Woodyard is. DJ may be big enough but he would need a big stout partner to help him out. Someone like a Bart Scott from Balt or a rookie like Malualuga.

Ok, I forgot woodyard was two hundred freakin' 12 pounds..... thats a lot of LB's that gotta go off our rosterin addition to WW. I like what I've read on Malualuga so far though.

View Poll Results: Which Broncos do you want in Nolan's 3-4?
Elvis Dumervil	90	66.67%
Ebenzer Ekuban	51	37.78%
Jarvis Moss	109	80.74%
Tim Crowder	77	57.04%
John Engelberger	9	6.67%
Marcus Thomas	114	84.44%
Dewayne Robertson	60	44.44%
Kenny Peterson	71	52.59%
Nic Clemons	28	20.74%
Jamie Winborn	31	22.96%
Boss Bailey	32	23.70%
Wesley Woodyard	117	86.67%
DJ Williams	122	90.37%
Spencer Larsen	111	82.22%
Mario Haggan	24	17.78%
Nate Webster	2	1.48%
Champ Bailey	123	91.11%
Dre' Bly	83	61.48%
Jack "MF" Williams	75	55.56%
Marquand Manual	3	2.22%
Josh Bell	67	49.63%
Josh Barrett	93	68.89%
Vernon Fox	7	5.19%
Marlon McCree	6	4.44%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2009, 11:01 AM	#1
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	What current Broncos do you want in Mike Nolan's 3-4 defense? This assuming we go to a 3-4, choose all that apply.

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01-14-2009, 11:05 AM	#2
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Personally I don't want to cut very many players from our defense, but I do want to upgrade the starting positions and have starters from 08 like McCree, Manual and Webster to be playing on special teams.

01-14-2009, 11:05 AM	#3
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	i want to see Doom get a chance at the SAM (and Moss too)... i want to see Woodyard play the Jack (although him playing SS with Champ moving to FS sounds intriguing)... Thomas to play end... DJ to play Will... that's about it...

01-14-2009, 11:08 AM	#4
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	if anyone chooses Nate Webster i'll kill ya...

01-14-2009, 11:25 AM	#6
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I voted for John Engleberger because I want to see what Popps will do.

01-14-2009, 11:26 AM	#7
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	By the way, am I crazy for thinking that Larsen would make a good MLB in the 3-4?

01-14-2009, 11:37 AM	#15
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	Woodyard & Williams would be a good fit pared up @ ILB. IMO Doom's a better served playing DE in a 4-3, he could get us some value somewhere. But I've been wrong about him before. I thought tackles were going to push him around in the NFL w/ his size. Moss for sure needs to be given a shot @ OLB wether it be will or sam.

01-14-2009, 11:37 AM	#16
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Whoops I voted more based on who I thought Would be involved more then who I Wanted to be. Face it if we are going 3-4 some of our square pegs are going to have to be shoved into a somewhat round hole....atleast for the first year or two.

01-14-2009, 11:44 AM	#23
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Sadly I can't see Elvis Dumervil working in the 3-4. He could be traded sadly... Nice guy, great motor but not a 3-4 DE and linebacker may be too much to ask for.

01-14-2009, 11:45 AM	#24
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	I just want to see these guys play when there are consiquinces for bad play. I think everyone except DJ and Robertson can be successful with nolan. DJ needs a change, he;s been praise here too long to change. Robertson, well he just hates 3-4 and has not been good as a NT in the past. Thats how he got to denver.