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Old 01-12-2009, 12:00 PM   #1
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Default What Pats fans are saying about McDaniels leaving.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-...ll-follow.html

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Old 01-12-2009, 12:14 PM   #2
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:15 PM   #3
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Interesting to read. Overall complimentary.
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Sounds like a popular guy. But, most coaches are when teams are winning.

There must be something to the guy. To be 32 and running a pro offense, and being considered the best coaching prospect out there is pretty crazy.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #5
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Sounds like a popular guy. But, most coaches are when teams are winning.

There must be something to the guy.
Clearly. His interview was what got him the job. We'll see.
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What he did with Cassell this year was amazing.

Remember - Belichick yanked Cassell out of a game last year when he threw an Int-Ret-TD in mop-up time. Stupid Belichick RE-insterted Brady. That's pretty ego-deflating I think, so all the more amazing what McD did with him this year.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:35 PM   #7
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Interesting reading those.. they sound a lot like we did in the late 90's.

"As long as we still have Shannahan, we'll be fine."
"As long as Bowlen is signing the checks, things will be ok"

Going to be tough for them when reality fully catches up.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:38 PM   #8
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Seems most liked him and wish him well
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nothing like the Giants fans I talked to about Spags. Most of them wanted to FIRE Coughlin and promote Spags. This was BEFORE yesterday's loss too. oh well, McD is the guy, and I'll support him.
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Interesting reading those.. they sound a lot like we did in the late 90's.

"As long as we still have Shannahan, we'll be fine."
"As long as Bowlen is signing the checks, things will be ok"

Going to be tough for them when reality fully catches up.
People said the same thing when Charlie Weiss left. "What the hell is Bill doing letting a 29 year old with almost zero NFL offensive expierence lead a Tom Brady Super Bowl ready team?"

Belichick will plug another nobody just like he did when Crennel left with Mangini & then Dean Peas.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:57 PM   #11
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A mature reaction and minimum drama queen activity. Nice!
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"But come on, Josh McDaniels to replace Mike Shanahan? That would be like Microsoft replacing Bill Gates with George Bush."

Ha.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:13 PM   #13
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Well, Bowlen didn't fire Shanny as a coach, he fired Shanny as a GM. If Bowlen ask Shanny to step as a GM, Shanny would take it as a slap in the face, so that's the reason Bowlen fired Shanny. McD is a innovator as Shanny was 14 years ago. Since Shanny took over the Broncos, the DC always been a thorn, it does matter who Shanny hired, it was never good enough, even Ray Rohde. It is like some of you said, you hire someone you are familiar with and looking at all Shanny DC and those are all he is familiar with. Shanny should have hired Dick LeBeau in 2003 ... no he hired Larry Coyer. Same thing when Ron Riveria was not retained by the Bears, he hired Jim Bate. The problem Shanny always has is defense. So hopefully, McD hired a better DC.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:43 PM   #14
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People said the same thing when Charlie Weiss left. "What the hell is Bill doing letting a 29 year old with almost zero NFL offensive expierence lead a Tom Brady Super Bowl ready team?"

Belichick will plug another nobody just like he did when Crennel left with Mangini & then Dean Peas.
Peas sucks, the NE sports board I frequent was pretty equally divided over what pissed them off more, losing McDaniels or possibly losing Capers and being stuck with Peas.

The big thing people who make this "its Belicheck and and he'll keep plugging guys in!" argument always overlook is the roles each of these "plugs" played in the Pats coaching staff. Mangini had his role repeatedly shrunken because he didn't get the results Belicheck wanted. Meanwhile Belicheck let a 28 year old McDaniels call the offensive plays as just a QB coach, then take over the offense completely and be the official offensive coordinator at 29.

He gave McDaniels more freedom and control over his facet of the team than he'd ever given any of his previous assistants across the board. At 32 he has basically been Belicheck's most trusted assistant of all time. That is some freakishly high praise by action.
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Old 01-12-2009, 01:45 PM   #15
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my only worry is that McDaniels wins a super bowl or 2 in the next 4 years and Bowlen ends up giving him the same powers he gave Mike.

i just want him to coach and that is it, no more power trips by the coach.
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my only worry is that McDaniels wins a super bowl or 2 in the next 4 years
I don't care what comes after that sentence fragment......it could be "and cheats with all our wives," and I'd be ok with it.
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Sounds like there going to miss a real genius!!!

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It was pretty impressive that McDaniels adjusted the offense so cassels could function pretty damn well after losing marsha, that was not an easy situation to deal with.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:06 PM   #19
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"But come on, Josh McDaniels to replace Mike Shanahan? That would be like Microsoft replacing Bill Gates with George Bush."

Ha.
Only if Gates suddenly lost his $50 billion or whatever it is and ended up sacking groceries at WalMart to make ends meet, and Bush then had a brain transplant.
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All I gotta say is change is exciting, not always positive, we'll see. I think what happens this off season in FA and the Draft will be a huge "tone" setter with how this new staff is going to run the team. If our first pick isn't a stud defensive guy then someone start the mutiny and I'll follow. But for now, lets support "the kid"
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:42 PM   #21
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Peas sucks, the NE sports board I frequent was pretty equally divided over what pissed them off more, losing McDaniels or possibly losing Capers and being stuck with Peas.

The big thing people who make this "its Belicheck and and he'll keep plugging guys in!" argument always overlook is the roles each of these "plugs" played in the Pats coaching staff. Mangini had his role repeatedly shrunken because he didn't get the results Belicheck wanted. Meanwhile Belicheck let a 28 year old McDaniels call the offensive plays as just a QB coach, then take over the offense completely and be the official offensive coordinator at 29.

He gave McDaniels more freedom and control over his facet of the team than he'd ever given any of his previous assistants across the board. At 32 he has basically been Belicheck's most trusted assistant of all time. That is some freakishly high praise by action.
Peas sucks my ass. They didn't miss a beat when Mangini left. They gave up the least amount of points in football his first year.

The fact is no matter what coach has left the Patriots staff over the years they continue to win games & be contenders ever single year.

Until proven otherwise. McDaniels isn't any different then Weiss leaving or Romeo or Mangini.

Until someone Belichick retires or someone kidnaps him. The Patriots ain't missing a beat.

Tom Brady is the offesnive coordinator anyway really.
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What I want to know is, will Jay listen to Josh?
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Peas sucks my ass. They didn't miss a beat when Mangini left. They gave up the least amount of points in football his first year.
Because Belichick has been running the defense the entire time.

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The fact is no matter what coach has left the Patriots staff over the years they continue to win games & be contenders ever single year.

Until proven otherwise. McDaniels isn't any different then Weiss leaving or Romeo or Mangini.

Until someone Belichick retires or someone kidnaps him. The Patriots ain't missing a beat.

Tom Brady is the offesnive coordinator anyway really.
Mangini and Crennel were the equivalent of positional coaches on that team, Belichick always had final say in the defense. Weis went to a situation where you can't make direct comparison, but even if you try McDaniels' offense greatly out-performed Weis', often with a lot of the same talent.
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Old 01-12-2009, 05:42 PM   #24
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Peas sucks my ass. They didn't miss a beat when Mangini left. They gave up the least amount of points in football his first year.

The fact is no matter what coach has left the Patriots staff over the years they continue to win games & be contenders ever single year.

Until proven otherwise. McDaniels isn't any different then Weiss leaving or Romeo or Mangini.

Until someone Belichick retires or someone kidnaps him. The Patriots ain't missing a beat.

Tom Brady is the offesnive coordinator anyway really.

Hmm...Mangini...no franchise QB in NY...Crennel...no franchise QB in Cleveland..McDaniels...Jay Cutler. He has a good chance of success, he has an offense here. He needs to fix the defense. His job is relatively easy in comparison to the jobs in NY and Cleveland. But you can say mangini and crennel left NY and Cle in better shape then when they got there.


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What I want to know is, will Jay listen to Josh?
Jays a smart guy, All he has to do is look at what josh did with Cassell and the fact that the patriots set two records under Josh the last two years.
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