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Old 01-12-2009, 04:46 AM   #51
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Nice work, Pat.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:20 AM   #52
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I don't know why people take local hatchet job stories so seriously.

Did his defenses statistically fail to produce? Sure did, but a lot of that goes on the offense for not being able to produce anything resembling a sustained drive.

Did he suck as a HC? Yep. But we aren't hiring him to do that. He also sucked as a GM, we aren't hiring that either.

He's a very knowledgeable DC in the 3-4 system who has done some great things with the front seven pretty much wherever he's been allowed to do his thing. Hell, his first position of significant influence was working under Joe Collier teaching LBs. He did some great things just recently with Patrick Willis and was developing some ok talent from basically thin air on their DL.

I'd hate it if he was the HC, but he's a damn good DC choice and if we're bringing Capers along to help work with the secondary and team up on the week to week scheme I can't see its anything but a good thing for this organization.

'Bout damn time we got back to the 3-4.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:38 AM   #53
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Jack - Wesley Woodyard
Will - DJ Williams
Mike - Rey Maualuga
Sam - Terrel Suggs

FS- OJ Atogwe
SS-Josh Barrett
So DEN aquires two FA's, and they draft a LB in the 1st round.
DEN would then have to trade away Jarvis Moss and Elvis Dumervil, but they would only help to get more draft picks, which DEN could parlay into a high pick in the, say, 2nd round.
DEN would still need another NT. I know Robertson played NT in NY, but i donr see him dominating.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:41 AM   #54
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If theyre going to go with "read and react" why did they even bother interviewing Spagnola? This just goes to show what a charlie foxtrot this has been and that Glenfiddich Bowlen was flying by the seat of his pants when firing Shanahan. This organization has no vision. Absolutely rudderless.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:42 AM   #55
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:43 AM   #56
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I love it that since Retard Lex thinks this is horrid the team has no direction. I wish the whiney little b**** would just go away.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:54 AM   #57
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This was an interesting sentence in the Wiki write-up for Mike Nolan: Nolan's strongest roots are in the Dan Reeves Coaching tree.

Anyway, he's from Oregon. Maybe that gives us a better shot at bringin in Unger. As far as D goes, we're only three spots off the bottom anyway. If he moves us up to the 20th rated D, it's an improvement. So, we've got that going for us.

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Old 01-12-2009, 08:23 AM   #58
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If theyre going to go with "read and react" why did they even bother interviewing Spagnola? This just goes to show what a charlie foxtrot this has been and that Glenfiddich Bowlen was flying by the seat of his pants when firing Shanahan. This organization has no vision. Absolutely rudderless.
I disaprove of everything but the Glenfiddich part in this post.

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Old 01-12-2009, 08:50 AM   #59
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Great post, I am pumped for Nolan. I remember when he got canned from the Niners, just abtou every analysist had a problem with it and went above and beyond defending his reputation blaming San Fran for the lack of success ratehr than Nolan. I wonder if he'll sport his full suit as a DC?
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #60
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You think Nolan and Capers can deliver that?
If they can manage to coach up Crowder and Moss and Bowlen opening up his wallet to hotly purse Terrell Suggs and Bart Scottduring FA, sure they can deliver.
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Old 01-12-2009, 09:42 AM   #61
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Those are good LB's to pick up, but what about our pick? we go safety then I spose.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:05 AM   #62
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What is Capers system like? just for comparison...are they similar? wondering if pairing them makes sense or not.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:10 AM   #63
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Humm, the 3-4 - Sortof reminiscent of the 1977 Denver Bronco Orange Crush Defense, also a 3-4 Defense. Tom Jackson, Randy Gradishar, Lyle Alzado, .....
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:13 AM   #64
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The 2008 Broncos defense was more like a Squint and Retreat scheme.

Thats the funniest thing I have read all day...thanks buddy
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:31 AM   #65
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The bottom line is this. It doesn't matter who our DC is, until we improve our overall talent level on defense any DC will struggle.
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Old 01-12-2009, 10:44 AM   #66
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I could have done without reading that...

Mike Nolan as Defensive Coordinator*:
(*ranking based on yards per game, so there may be a 1 or 2 spot variation compared to the standard "total yards" ranking)

1993: NY Giants (5th ranked defense)
1994: NY Giants (11th ranked defense)
1995: NY Giants (17th ranked defense)
1996: NY Giants (14th ranked defense)

Not a good trend. But, hey, at least he made some progress in that final year.

1997: Washingon (16th ranked defense)
1998: Washington (24th ranked defense)
1999: Washington (30th ranked defense)

Ouch.

2000: NY Jets (10th ranked defense)

Not much to say here, since he was only there a year. But...

2001: Baltimore (receivers' coach)

Then Marvin Lewis took off and Nolan lucked into the easiest job ever, taking over a D that had been at the top of the league over the previous three seasons. Although it was a little rough that first year.

2002: Baltimore (22nd ranked defense)
2003: Baltimore (3rd ranked defense)
2004: Baltimore (6th ranked defense)

Then he went to the 49'ers. Their defenses, BTW:

2005: 49'ers (32nd ranked defense)
2006: 49'ers (26th ranked defense)
2007: 49'ers (25th ranked defense)

Well, it'd be hard to decline from 32nd.
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oh crap, i thought he was better than this
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:17 PM   #68
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I talked to some Raven fans today, just as passionate about thier team as we are about ours. Lots of eye rolling when I mention Nolans name as DC. But remember Nolan ran a 4/3 a couple of years in both NYG and BALT before he moved to the 3/4
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This will not be the same defense that was ran in san fran.

Mike Nolan did not call weak non aggresive defenses in baltimore!
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