How do you feel now? - The Orange Mane

Garcia Bronco · 01-05-2009, 06:34 AM

It's been a little less than a week. How do you feel now? There is no right answer here. Be honest. You are allowed to change your mind.

Poll to follow

Broncoman13 · 01-05-2009, 06:40 AM

Good options but I'm still stuck in the middle. Part of me knows that we need change and that change could either be a good thing or really implode on us. I think I would have been fine giving Shanny this year to improve the defense and see what he got out of it. No or little improvement and he was gone. On the other hand, I think this speeds up the process a little bit. Bowlen had lost faith in Shanny the personnel man. That hurt us last year in free agency as much as anything. Mistakes like Travis Henry and Javon Walker prevented us from making moves for players like Kris Jenkins and Shaun Rogers. With a new regime in place it increases our odds of a player like Peppers, Haynesworth, or Suggs.

Blart · 01-05-2009, 06:43 AM

Worse. Hearing about how the Cards were hosting their first playoff game since 1947 made me realize how rare good teams are.

14 seasons, 7 playoff appearances. That's rare.

Rohirrim · 01-05-2009, 06:44 AM

Let's see: The home field advantage of Mile High is dead. The Broncos just made NFL history by being the first team to flush a three game lead in their division and drop out of the playoffs. We watched a horrible Chefs team put an 11 minute, 90 yard drive on our asses for a TD, oh, and the Faders, one of the worst teams in football, came into our house and kicked our asses. Mike? Here's your hat. What's your hurry?

Garcia Bronco · 01-05-2009, 06:45 AM

I can totally understand where the owner is coming from, I just think this is something he should have down 3 seasons ago, or two seasons from now.

I don't think we'll be able to do too much in FA. Carolina isn't going to let Peppers get away. Haynesworth will be out of the park in terms of ROI, and I don't see Suggs leaving Baltimore either. I just hope we get a coach that takes it on the chin and goes to a 3-4. If you look at our opponents next season, it's obviously going to be near impossible to get into the playoffs again. I say switch to the 3-4 and cut our teeth on an already difficult LOOKING season

supermanhr9 · 01-05-2009, 06:46 AM

I am staying strong on my opinion this was not the right choice, but I will eat my words when or if the time comes

Garcia Bronco · 01-05-2009, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by supermanhr9

I am staying strong on my opinion this was not the right choice, but I will eat my words when or if the time comes

Well. On a long enough time line, everybody is right. I mean heck, getting rid of Chuck Knoll was a great decision....16 years later.

WolfpackGuy · 01-05-2009, 06:51 AM

I was pissed when it happened, but maybe it was time for a change.
Losing to two of the worst teams in football (KC and OAK) couldn't have helped.
If Shanahan lost his job over retaining Slowik, then he deserved to go.

frerottenextelway · 01-05-2009, 06:52 AM

My ''gut'' tells me that we'll have our next coach for 32 games (and ''gut'' decisions so totally rock).

Traveler · 01-05-2009, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Let's see: The home field advantage of Mile High is dead. The Broncos just made NFL history by being the first team to flush a three game lead in their division and drop out of the playoffs. We watched a horrible Chefs team put an 11 minute, 90 yard drive on our asses for a TD, oh, and the Faders, one of the worst teams in football, came into our house and kicked our asses. Mike? Here's your hat. What's your hurry?

QFT! Add our usual late season swoons and redzone troubles to the list.

eddie mac · 01-05-2009, 07:00 AM

I'd rather wait until I see the complete coaching set up, then make an initial judgement.

Maybe after 2 seasons I'll tell you my complete thoughts, after 2 drafts, 2 free agencies and 32 or more games.

Afterall Shanahan got 14 each of those did he not

socalorado · 01-05-2009, 07:07 AM

Its been a week, and i still am not 100% sure why shanny was truly fired.
Was there a final verdict?
Was it because he wanted to retain Slowdick?
Was it because he just lost the respect of the players and staff?
Was it because he lost so many damn games to horrid teams?
What was it really?
IF! The main decision was because Shanny told Bowlen to pound sand when Bowlen told him to fire Slowdick, i cannot blame Bowlen. I just cant. If thats the case, then Shanny deserves whatever Bolwen decided. Then this whole thing is on Shanny. I cant blame Bowlen then. Cant do it. Its all on Mike and Mike has no one to blame but himself 100% for his firing.
If its not this issue then i am still on the fence.

lex · 01-05-2009, 07:12 AM

It depends on who Bowlen hires. While I had my concerns and greivances with Shanahan, Im starting to question Bowlen.

Meck77 · 01-05-2009, 07:30 AM

It's a decision that had to be made. Could you guys imagine seeing another pathetic attempt by Shanny/Slowick to improve this sad defense?

As far as feelings for the future I'd imagine we'll win a playoff game and have a real shot at the SB in the next 10 years. That really is the sad bench mark we're dealing with.

Until the new coach is selected we're all in the dark though. I still think Cowher may surface. The guy just didn't go fishing after he was talking to the Jets.

Drek · 01-05-2009, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I can totally understand where the owner is coming from, I just think this is something he should have down 3 seasons ago, or two seasons from now.

I don't think we'll be able to do too much in FA. Carolina isn't going to let Peppers get away. Haynesworth will be out of the park in terms of ROI, and I don't see Suggs leaving Baltimore either. I just hope we get a coach that takes it on the chin and goes to a 3-4. If you look at our opponents next season, it's obviously going to be near impossible to get into the playoffs again. I say switch to the 3-4 and cut our teeth on an already difficult LOOKING season

I don't think moving to a 3-4 necessarily requires the next regime to "take it on the chin" really.

Our front seven has one good linebacker (DJ), one pass rushing specialist DE who is too small for every down duty (Dumervil) and one promising but inconsistent DT (Thomas). Other than that its a couple of rookies and second year guys who might be good some day and a bunch of scrubs. We were the 30th defense in the league last year. We got basically no place to go but up.

Rohirrim · 01-05-2009, 07:33 AM

I would hate to see Cowher spitting and drooling on the Broncos' sidelines. I've never liked that guy.

Hogan11 · 01-05-2009, 07:35 AM

I was kinda on the fence before, but have changed into the "a change had to be made" catagory. If they hire Spagoo or Morris I'll be happy....if it's McDaniels or Dennison, then I won't be. Someone defensively minded must be brought in or there's gonna be very lean years ahead methinks.

broncofan7 · 01-05-2009, 07:39 AM

Absolutely, positively the correct think to do. As Pat said, 14 years was a long time and over the last 10 seasons--1 division title, 1 playoff win--this isn't KC or SD. That is not acceptable. We are BETTER than that. We WERE the envy of our division for almost 30 years..both Shanny and Dan Reeves had the largest part in that and I am very thankful for both. But it was time.

Jason in LA · 01-05-2009, 07:49 AM

I'm still pissed. **** Pat Bowlen!

El Guapo · 01-05-2009, 07:54 AM

I was on a cruise for the last 7 days trying to relax. My first day on was the loss in SD and then I found out a couple days later shanny was canned. ARGH. I was pissed to say the least.

I was able to root Denver on with a couple other fans on the cruise ship and when the news came out we all magically found each other on the ship and were all equally distressed by the firing. way to go bowlen.

enjolras · 01-05-2009, 07:57 AM

After watching Trevor Pryce, Bertrand Berry, and Foxworth play this weekend... I have to be honest, I think it was the right decision. We've had a lot of talent slip out the door (and it shows).

Taco John · 01-05-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Let's see: The home field advantage of Mile High is dead.

Interesting... Another thing that Pat Bowlen killed...

broncofan7 · 01-05-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

Interesting... Another thing that Pat Bowlen killed...

Is it because of his insistence on a new stadium with higher ticker prices and a very sanitary feel to it? Unfortunately, outside of GB, that is the new direction of the NFL....

bowtown · 01-05-2009, 08:10 AM

Not quite as upset as I was, but I still think this was a mistake.

Hotrod · 01-05-2009, 08:12 AM

It was and still is a major mistake. One that we are going to pay for over the next 3-5 years.

View Poll Results: Now that you've had it sink in
I still think it was time for a chnage	61	45.19%
I still think it was a bad decision	51	37.78%
I have changed my mind, this is the way to go	21	15.56%
I have changed my mind, this was a bad decision	2	1.48%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

01-05-2009, 06:34 AM	#1
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	How do you feel now? It's been a little less than a week. How do you feel now? There is no right answer here. Be honest. You are allowed to change your mind. Poll to follow Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 01-05-2009 at 06:47 AM..

01-05-2009, 07:30 AM	#14
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,307	It's a decision that had to be made. Could you guys imagine seeing another pathetic attempt by Shanny/Slowick to improve this sad defense? As far as feelings for the future I'd imagine we'll win a playoff game and have a real shot at the SB in the next 10 years. That really is the sad bench mark we're dealing with. Until the new coach is selected we're all in the dark though. I still think Cowher may surface. The guy just didn't go fishing after he was talking to the Jets. Last edited by Meck77; 01-05-2009 at 07:34 AM..

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01-05-2009, 06:40 AM	#2
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Good options but I'm still stuck in the middle. Part of me knows that we need change and that change could either be a good thing or really implode on us. I think I would have been fine giving Shanny this year to improve the defense and see what he got out of it. No or little improvement and he was gone. On the other hand, I think this speeds up the process a little bit. Bowlen had lost faith in Shanny the personnel man. That hurt us last year in free agency as much as anything. Mistakes like Travis Henry and Javon Walker prevented us from making moves for players like Kris Jenkins and Shaun Rogers. With a new regime in place it increases our odds of a player like Peppers, Haynesworth, or Suggs.

01-05-2009, 06:43 AM	#3
Blart I'm gay for the Broncos! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: All @ same time	Worse. Hearing about how the Cards were hosting their first playoff game since 1947 made me realize how rare good teams are. 14 seasons, 7 playoff appearances. That's rare.

01-05-2009, 06:44 AM	#4
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,787	Let's see: The home field advantage of Mile High is dead. The Broncos just made NFL history by being the first team to flush a three game lead in their division and drop out of the playoffs. We watched a horrible Chefs team put an 11 minute, 90 yard drive on our asses for a TD, oh, and the Faders, one of the worst teams in football, came into our house and kicked our asses. Mike? Here's your hat. What's your hurry?

01-05-2009, 06:45 AM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I can totally understand where the owner is coming from, I just think this is something he should have down 3 seasons ago, or two seasons from now. I don't think we'll be able to do too much in FA. Carolina isn't going to let Peppers get away. Haynesworth will be out of the park in terms of ROI, and I don't see Suggs leaving Baltimore either. I just hope we get a coach that takes it on the chin and goes to a 3-4. If you look at our opponents next season, it's obviously going to be near impossible to get into the playoffs again. I say switch to the 3-4 and cut our teeth on an already difficult LOOKING season

01-05-2009, 06:46 AM	#6
supermanhr9 Ring of Famer "I'm gonna burn this mother down" Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ST. LOUIS, MO Posts: 1,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nobody	I am staying strong on my opinion this was not the right choice, but I will eat my words when or if the time comes

01-05-2009, 06:51 AM	#8
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,674	I was pissed when it happened, but maybe it was time for a change. Losing to two of the worst teams in football (KC and OAK) couldn't have helped. If Shanahan lost his job over retaining Slowik, then he deserved to go.

01-05-2009, 06:52 AM	#9
frerottenextelway █████ █████ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: █████ Posts: 7,888 Adopt-a-Bronco: ██	My ''gut'' tells me that we'll have our next coach for 32 games (and ''gut'' decisions so totally rock).

01-05-2009, 07:00 AM	#11
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	I'd rather wait until I see the complete coaching set up, then make an initial judgement. Maybe after 2 seasons I'll tell you my complete thoughts, after 2 drafts, 2 free agencies and 32 or more games. Afterall Shanahan got 14 each of those did he not

01-05-2009, 07:07 AM	#12
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,209	Its been a week, and i still am not 100% sure why shanny was truly fired. Was there a final verdict? Was it because he wanted to retain Slowdick? Was it because he just lost the respect of the players and staff? Was it because he lost so many damn games to horrid teams? What was it really? IF! The main decision was because Shanny told Bowlen to pound sand when Bowlen told him to fire Slowdick, i cannot blame Bowlen. I just cant. If thats the case, then Shanny deserves whatever Bolwen decided. Then this whole thing is on Shanny. I cant blame Bowlen then. Cant do it. Its all on Mike and Mike has no one to blame but himself 100% for his firing. If its not this issue then i am still on the fence.

01-05-2009, 07:12 AM	#13
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It depends on who Bowlen hires. While I had my concerns and greivances with Shanahan, Im starting to question Bowlen.

01-05-2009, 07:33 AM	#16
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,787	I would hate to see Cowher spitting and drooling on the Broncos' sidelines. I've never liked that guy.

01-05-2009, 07:35 AM	#17
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	I was kinda on the fence before, but have changed into the "a change had to be made" catagory. If they hire Spagoo or Morris I'll be happy....if it's McDaniels or Dennison, then I won't be. Someone defensively minded must be brought in or there's gonna be very lean years ahead methinks.

01-05-2009, 07:39 AM	#18
broncofan7 AKA "THE STANDARD" BQ looks ALMOST as good as I do Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BIG D Posts: 6,022	Absolutely, positively the correct think to do. As Pat said, 14 years was a long time and over the last 10 seasons--1 division title, 1 playoff win--this isn't KC or SD. That is not acceptable. We are BETTER than that. We WERE the envy of our division for almost 30 years..both Shanny and Dan Reeves had the largest part in that and I am very thankful for both. But it was time.

01-05-2009, 07:49 AM	#19
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	I'm still pissed. **** Pat Bowlen!

01-05-2009, 07:54 AM	#20
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,444	I was on a cruise for the last 7 days trying to relax. My first day on was the loss in SD and then I found out a couple days later shanny was canned. ARGH. I was pissed to say the least. I was able to root Denver on with a couple other fans on the cruise ship and when the news came out we all magically found each other on the ship and were all equally distressed by the firing. way to go bowlen.

01-05-2009, 07:57 AM	#21
enjolras Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,939	After watching Trevor Pryce, Bertrand Berry, and Foxworth play this weekend... I have to be honest, I think it was the right decision. We've had a lot of talent slip out the door (and it shows).

01-05-2009, 08:10 AM	#24
bowtown Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Aaron Brewer	Not quite as upset as I was, but I still think this was a mistake.

01-05-2009, 08:12 AM	#25
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	It was and still is a major mistake. One that we are going to pay for over the next 3-5 years.