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Old 01-04-2009, 01:33 PM   #1
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Default How long will it take for this defense to become actually great?

2 safeties that need to be replaced.

Good, but aging starting corners and behind is young inexperienced ones.

Linebackers who are only solid at best or backups at best.

A DL that is filled with question marks and average players.


Face it... this defense will be mediocore to horrid for the next few years at least.

Lets face it and start rebuilding thru the draft and not bring in overpriced FA's.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:35 PM   #2
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Just an improvement to average would be huge.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:36 PM   #4
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average will get u tooled in the playoffs.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:37 PM   #5
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Becoming great may never happen... but with this offense average would be enough.

Problem is average will take 2-3 years.
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Average would have gotten us into the playoffs this year
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:40 PM   #7
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I dont think its ever been great and ive been a broncos fan for 20+ years. Just needs to be 10th-15th overall with our O
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3 yrs (6 starters needed)

Denver needs to revamp whole D.

CB- Denver needs starter youth
S- Both spots need upgrading
LB- We need a leader at MLB
DT- We need another one
DE- A pass rush in Denver please
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It's lacking a leader. That is huge. I think someone like Al Wilson (not the Al Wilson) to help inspire the defense and make sure people are where they're supposed to be could really do wonders. Whenever the defense got down this past season you could not pick out any single player who was helping stem the tide whatsoever. It lacked heart.

It also lacked skills; which could be alleviated or at least leveraged by a competent defensive coach or defensive-minded/tutored head coach.

I really don't think talent was ever the issue with our defense, but instead the above missing facets.
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It's lacking a leader. That is huge. I think someone like Al Wilson (not the Al Wilson) to help inspire the defense and make sure people are where they're supposed to be could really do wonders. Whenever the defense got down this past season you could not pick out any single player who was helping stem the tide whatsoever. It lacked heart.

It also lacked skills; which could be alleviated or at least leveraged by a competent defensive coach or defensive-minded/tutored head coach.

I really don't think talent was ever the issue with our defense, but instead the above missing facets.

woodyard he just needs to get some reps.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:44 PM   #11
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3 yrs (6 starters needed)

Denver needs to revamp whole D.

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LB- We need a leader at MLB
DT- We need another one
DE- A pass rush in Denver please
Shopping champ could address a few defensive needs.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:44 PM   #12
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Becoming great may never happen... but with this offense average would be enough.

Problem is average will take 2-3 years.
I see no reason to be satisfied with average. We need to expect this new regime to commit to them being the best. I keep hearing all we need is a decent D to win the Superbowl. I disagree...two years of excellent drafts and a key FA or two would do it.
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Just having a "competent" defense is the best we can hope and aim for. Itīs pretty much impossible to have a great offense and a great defense in this day and age and I think itīs fair to say our offense is a whole lot closer to "greatness" and has a lot more pieces in place than our D. Having a defense thatīs ranked somewhere around 10 should be enough to make a decent run.
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Old 01-04-2009, 01:45 PM   #14
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It depends on if we pick the right coach. But really, Id settle for a good defense. Our offense isnt even great really.
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This team is compared to the KC team few years ago.

Expect their O was actually top ranked while ours isn't.

We need a great D not just a decent to support this O.
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It depends on if we pick the right coach. But really, Id settle for a good defense. Our offense isnt even great really.

It's an average defense away from being great jay having to consitantly outscore the piss poor defense kept him from moving up to another level.
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just firing Slowik will give us two more wins.
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I see no reason to be satisfied with average. We need to expect this new regime to commit to them being the best. I keep hearing all we need is a decent D to win the Superbowl. I disagree...two years of excellent drafts and a key FA or two would do it.
I'm all for that... problem is, we have the worst D in the league. Yes i know Detroit and St. Louis ranked behind us but they had whoeful offenses that made their D that much worse. This defense is soooo pathetic average would be a significant improvement. Then we can start the how do we become great talk.
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The defense the last two years has been totally horrendous. They don't stop anybody, they don't get sacks, they don't get turnovers, they don't gamble to GET sacks or turnovers, etc, etc. Any improvement in those areas would be good for 3-4 more wins with the offense in place.
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Sad but, true Baja
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How do you define "great" anyway?
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Average would have gotten us into the playoffs this year
Well I didnt wanna see manning break records against us.
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How do you define "great" anyway?
See: The Ravens today.
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How do you define "great" anyway?
at least top 5 in both yards and points allowed for a sustained period of years.
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Another playmaker like Al Wilson. Defense went to hell when he was gone.
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