The fragility of QB egos: Thomas Jones Rips Favre, etc - The Orange Mane

Miss I. · 01-01-2009, 07:20 PM

Okay, I realize Favre is not anyone's favorite person, given his constant will I won't I retire stance over the last few years. The real reason I thought this video was funny was the part when Jamie Dukes goes on about the fragility of QB egos and the NFL's focus on QBs and coddling them. It's only a small portion of the video, but I thought it was funny, particularly given the talk about Jay in various threads.

Of course if it also kickstarts additional discussion on things like Brett leaving the Jets or should players talk smack about each other to the press that's okay too. I realize many of these ideas have been batted around prior, but hey it isn't like we don't have multiple threads on the same thing all over this board. I thought this one could consolidate it and genericize it to not just the Broncos, but all QBs, etc.

Here's the video:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80dd0272

And mods if you feel this is more OT or something feel free to move it.

gunns · 01-01-2009, 07:23 PM

I saw it earlier. I do think conflict within the team should be kept within the team but the gist I got from Jones is that Favre is not a team player and thinks it's all about him. No huge surprise there.

Chris · 01-01-2009, 07:27 PM

Is there a video on the fragility of the mane's ego?

skpac1001 · 01-01-2009, 07:27 PM

Funny, when I think of fragile ego's I usually don't think of qb's. I am not sure there is a higher pressure, higher criticized position in sports and I think that qb's in general are as mentally tough as anyone. WR's would probably win my fragile ego award far and away, and RB's would be on that list too. That said, Favre does seem to have some issues and I admit I enjoy the situation.

oubronco · 01-01-2009, 07:30 PM

**** Favre he brought all this on himself and hopefully he rides off into the sunset FOREVER

Steve Prefontaine · 01-01-2009, 07:48 PM

What an awkward situation. Even if the shoulder checks out ok and Farve wants to return, how could he play again on the same team with Jones and Coles (who threw Farve under the bus a few weeks back)?

Bronx33 · 01-01-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ECBronco

What an awkward situation. Even if the shoulder checks out ok and Farve wants to return, how could he play again on the same team with Jones and Coles (who threw Farve under the bus a few weeks back)?

I don't know either but it will be fun to watch

lex · 01-01-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

**** Favre he brought all this on himself and hopefully he rides off into the sunset FOREVER

I dont. I like seeing him getting kicked around by the national media for doing a lot of the same stuff he was doing in Green Bay. Its amazing how when he did that stuff in Green Bay, it was cute and charming but now that he is doing it in NY, the media's tune changes.

Bronx33 · 01-01-2009, 07:54 PM

Farve is trying like hell to go out on a bad note. ( i say let him)

Steve Prefontaine · 01-01-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

I don't know either but it will be fun to watch

Oh yes...next year I would love to see Farve get sacked by a blitzing linebacker because of a T. Jones "missed" block...followed by Jones slipping a $100 to the LB and then giving Coles a chest bump.

MechanicalBull · 01-01-2009, 08:04 PM

A lot of people in the media forget that if you forget about last year is that his 2 yrs prior in GB he was bad there too, even throwing 29 picks in 2005.

Kerry Rhodes and Jerricho Cotchery have said on the radio here in NY that they would want Favre back but only if he takes part in offseason workouts. The Jets are giving him to the combine to make a decision.

Los Broncos · 01-01-2009, 08:06 PM

Go away Brett, just go away already.

Steve Prefontaine · 01-01-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MechanicalBull

A lot of people in the media forget that if you forget about last year is that his 2 yrs prior in GB he was bad there too, even throwing 29 picks in 2005.

Yeah, Farve was coming off a couple of really bad years and then sold his soul for one more good year in GB. Unfortunately he has no more souls to sell.

houghtam · 01-01-2009, 08:25 PM

I want him to come back so we can see if he can throw another 6 INTs in a playoff game.

orinjkrush · 01-01-2009, 08:34 PM

brett seems bipolar. tds and ints.
jay is starting to seem the same.

Majik · 01-01-2009, 09:28 PM

Favre should just call it quits right now, pull his wranglers and straw cap on, head back to Mississippi and do some shrimping with his buddy Forest.

Majik · 01-01-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lex

Its amazing how when he did that stuff in Green Bay, it was cute and charming but now that he is doing it in NY, the media's tune changes.

WABronco · 01-01-2009, 09:41 PM

Deanna should come out and defend him!

watermock · 01-01-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WABronco

Deanna should come out and defend him!

That biatch just wanted the 11 million.

Circle Orange · 01-02-2009, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by lex

I dont. I like seeing him getting kicked around by the national media for doing a lot of the same stuff he was doing in Green Bay. Its amazing how when he did that stuff in Green Bay, it was cute and charming but now that he is doing it in NY, the media's tune changes.

Favre's going through culture shock. NY is a whole different animal than GB, where everyone enabled, coddled, kissed and hugged everything and anything he said and did. Now, he's getting the same treatment most qbs endure. Welcome to the real world, Brett. People ripped Elway. They still rip Marino. They ripped Kelly. Favre ain't that special (although certain talking heads on ESPN still explain away everything and kiss).

Funny how that arm injury spread to his brain, forcing him to throw those pinheaded picks.

Smiling Assassin27 · 01-02-2009, 08:11 AM

Unfortunately, no strong coach exists to tell TJ to shut up. If i'm Favre, I'd come back just to make TJ's life hell next year. Favre had 3 weeks to get acclimated to the playbook and had a coach that had no clue how to use him. If he stays, he'll be better next year, IMO.

Jens1893 · 01-02-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

Unfortunately, no strong coach exists to tell TJ to shut up. If i'm Favre, I'd come back just to make TJ's life hell next year. Favre had 3 weeks to get acclimated to the playbook and had a coach that had no clue how to use him. If he stays, he'll be better next year, IMO.

Improving from a TD/INT ratio of 22/22 ain´t really that hard ...

supermanhr9 · 01-02-2009, 08:52 AM

Brett Favre is a ego maniac that will be limping the rest of his life in his wrangler jeans because he has convinced himself he is still pro-bowl material! In my eyes he tarnished his legacy with this whole ordeal. He should be like Dennis Quaid in Any Given Sunday and give up

Smiling Assassin27 · 01-02-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens1893

Improving from a TD/INT ratio of 22/22 ain´t really that hard ...

Point taken. It still remains to be seen if Favre has only glimmers left or if he can sustain a 16 game season at a high level. He's only one year removed from a very good year in Green Bay. He had much better WR's and a better RB and coach there. This was a transition year. Next year will be the tell-tale sign, IMO.

rugbythug · 01-02-2009, 09:29 AM

Jones Goes off on Farve and then Favre has a fragile Ego? Cmon

01-01-2009, 07:20 PM	#1
Miss I. Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,025	The fragility of QB egos: Thomas Jones Rips Favre, etc Okay, I realize Favre is not anyone's favorite person, given his constant will I won't I retire stance over the last few years. The real reason I thought this video was funny was the part when Jamie Dukes goes on about the fragility of QB egos and the NFL's focus on QBs and coddling them. It's only a small portion of the video, but I thought it was funny, particularly given the talk about Jay in various threads. Of course if it also kickstarts additional discussion on things like Brett leaving the Jets or should players talk smack about each other to the press that's okay too. I realize many of these ideas have been batted around prior, but hey it isn't like we don't have multiple threads on the same thing all over this board. I thought this one could consolidate it and genericize it to not just the Broncos, but all QBs, etc. Here's the video: http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80dd0272 And mods if you feel this is more OT or something feel free to move it.

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01-01-2009, 07:23 PM	#2
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,661 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	I saw it earlier. I do think conflict within the team should be kept within the team but the gist I got from Jones is that Favre is not a team player and thinks it's all about him. No huge surprise there.

01-01-2009, 07:27 PM	#3
Chris Millenium Scrooge McDuck Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,501 Adopt-a-Bronco: OrlandoFranklin	Is there a video on the fragility of the mane's ego?

01-01-2009, 07:27 PM	#4
skpac1001 Ring of Famer I brings the ruckus Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Temecula, Ca Posts: 1,129 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Funny, when I think of fragile ego's I usually don't think of qb's. I am not sure there is a higher pressure, higher criticized position in sports and I think that qb's in general are as mentally tough as anyone. WR's would probably win my fragile ego award far and away, and RB's would be on that list too. That said, Favre does seem to have some issues and I admit I enjoy the situation.

01-01-2009, 07:30 PM	#5
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,604	**** Favre he brought all this on himself and hopefully he rides off into the sunset FOREVER

01-01-2009, 07:48 PM	#6
Steve Prefontaine Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,289 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	What an awkward situation. Even if the shoulder checks out ok and Farve wants to return, how could he play again on the same team with Jones and Coles (who threw Farve under the bus a few weeks back)?

01-01-2009, 07:54 PM	#9
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Farve is trying like hell to go out on a bad note. ( i say let him)

01-01-2009, 08:04 PM	#11
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	A lot of people in the media forget that if you forget about last year is that his 2 yrs prior in GB he was bad there too, even throwing 29 picks in 2005. Kerry Rhodes and Jerricho Cotchery have said on the radio here in NY that they would want Favre back but only if he takes part in offseason workouts. The Jets are giving him to the combine to make a decision.

01-01-2009, 08:06 PM	#12
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Go away Brett, just go away already.

01-01-2009, 08:25 PM	#14
houghtam WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION MethWolfeAlliance Member #11001001 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 5,034 Adopt-a-Bronco: Demon Eagles	I want him to come back so we can see if he can throw another 6 INTs in a playoff game.

01-01-2009, 08:34 PM	#15
orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,914 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	brett seems bipolar. tds and ints. jay is starting to seem the same.

01-01-2009, 09:28 PM	#16
Majik Man7 3-0 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 647	Favre should just call it quits right now, pull his wranglers and straw cap on, head back to Mississippi and do some shrimping with his buddy Forest.

01-01-2009, 09:41 PM	#18
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	Deanna should come out and defend him!

01-02-2009, 08:11 AM	#21
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,983 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Unfortunately, no strong coach exists to tell TJ to shut up. If i'm Favre, I'd come back just to make TJ's life hell next year. Favre had 3 weeks to get acclimated to the playbook and had a coach that had no clue how to use him. If he stays, he'll be better next year, IMO.

01-02-2009, 08:52 AM	#23
supermanhr9 Ring of Famer "I'm gonna burn this mother down" Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ST. LOUIS, MO Posts: 1,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nobody	Brett Favre is a ego maniac that will be limping the rest of his life in his wrangler jeans because he has convinced himself he is still pro-bowl material! In my eyes he tarnished his legacy with this whole ordeal. He should be like Dennis Quaid in Any Given Sunday and give up

01-02-2009, 09:29 AM	#25
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,788 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	Jones Goes off on Farve and then Favre has a fragile Ego? Cmon