Your top 3 - The Orange Mane

ZONA · 01-01-2009, 04:03 PM

I'll go on the record and say Bowlen hires a DC as his next HC. These are the top 3 guys I think. I'm pretty sure one of these guys will be the next HC in Denver. The reason I think so is because DC's really know what kind of players to get (via draft or FA) and who ever the GM is, these guys can really help evaluate the defensive talent. At this stage, we have so many good offensive young players and hardly any defensive players that I think we really do need a defensive minded HC and I will be shocked if one of these guys is not the next HC.

Rex Ryan (Ravens)
Clancy Pendergast (Cardinals)
Steve Spagnuolo (Giants)

Broncobiv · 01-01-2009, 04:18 PM

ZONA · 01-01-2009, 04:20 PM

Thanks Biv. Fixed.

Broncobiv · 01-01-2009, 04:21 PM

No, thank you!

SureShot · 01-01-2009, 04:24 PM

1. Mike Shanahan
2. Spags
3. However can bring in Haynesworth

Bronx33 · 01-01-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broncobiv

No, thank you!

you mean you're welcome.

Dexter · 01-01-2009, 04:35 PM

1. Spagnoulo
2. Morris
3. Mcdaniels

Dagmar · 01-01-2009, 04:42 PM

Spagnoulo
Spagnoulo
Spagnoulo

montrose · 01-01-2009, 04:56 PM

1) Morris
2) Spagnoulo
3) Ryan

chaz · 01-01-2009, 05:02 PM

Spagnuolo
Morris
Frasier/Ryan

Rock Chalk · 01-01-2009, 05:05 PM

I did some reading on Morris and Im convinced I dont want the guy. Too young, too inexperienced and too easy for him to **** up real bad.

I dont mind going young but this guy is a little too young.

minibronco · 01-01-2009, 05:15 PM

Spagnuolo
Carroll
Ryan

ZONA · 01-01-2009, 06:11 PM

It looks like more of us prefer the DC over an OC.

I'd be curious, I wonder how many of the past 20 Superbowls were won by a HC that used to be a DC and how many by an OC.

I'm going to guess DC's get the nod.

bloodsunday · 01-01-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford

Spagnoulo
Spagnoulo
Spagnoulo

Noooooooooooooooo....

It's too obvious and too safe to work with a move like Bowlen just made.

Here is what I posted on another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodsunday

Not a big fan of Spagnuolo because the "hottest assistant for the best team" is usually a disaster. It's kinda like the Heisman Trophy (aka "The Best Player on the Best Team Award"). Never works out for the next team. See every New England or Pittsburgh assistant that ever left.

bloodsunday · 01-01-2009, 06:16 PM

1) Morris - by a country mile.
...
2) Josh McDaniels - I love the idea of him working with Cutler
3) Schwartz

Steve Sewell · 01-01-2009, 06:19 PM

Foneco
Foneco
Foneco

SonOfLe-loLang · 01-01-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

Noooooooooooooooo....

It's too obvious and too safe to work with a move like Bowlen just made.

Here is what I posted on another thread:

This reasoning makes zero sense.

montrose · 01-01-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZONA

It looks like more of us prefer the DC over an OC.

I'd be curious, I wonder how many of the past 20 Superbowls were won by a HC that used to be a DC and how many by an OC.

I'm going to guess DC's get the nod.

Coughlin - Offense
Dungy - Defense
Cowher - Defense
Belichick - Defense
Belichick - Defense
Gruden - Offense
Belichick - Defense
Billick - Offense
Vermeil - Offense
Shanahan - Offense
Shanahan - Offense
Holmgren - Offense
Swtizer - Offense
Seifert - Defense
Johnson - Defense
Johnson - Defense
Gibbs - Offense
Parcells - Defense
Seifert - Defense

Steve Sewell · 01-01-2009, 06:25 PM

On a serious note, can anyone tell me why the board has essentially eliminated names like Cowher and Parcells? I've been scouring the intarwebz and have found nothing that eliminates them as candidates. Just curious.

Also, why is everyone dismissing Stoops? I hate the ****er (probably because he is so good and also arrogant as hell- which translates well to the league). Is it because of all the recent failed college coaches in the NFL? He just seems like he's cut from a different cloth than them. He also seems to run a very tight ship with a fantastic eye for defensive talent. His defenses are always top notch and well coached.

bloodsunday · 01-01-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

This reasoning makes zero sense.

Actually it does. "Spags" has already made his masterpiece. BUT, he made it with a quality DL, something Denver does not have and likely will not acquire in one or two offseasons. (Remember that draft picks are 50/50 and DL are the #1 commodity in drafts and FA).

It is NOT A GIVEN that he could come in here and take this bunch of left over parts and create a great D by trying to force his system on players that cannot run it.

Bowlen took a huge chance at firing Mike Shanahan. He should follow-up that decision by hiring the best available candidate, not the most obvious one.

That's a more complete version of my "reasoning".

bloodsunday · 01-01-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

On a serious note, can anyone tell me why the board has essentially eliminated names like Cowher and Parcells? I've been scouring the intarwebz and have found nothing that eliminates them as candidates. Just curious.

Also, why is everyone dismissing Stoops? I hate the ****er (probably because he is so good and also arrogant as hell- which translates well to the league). Is it because of all the recent failed college coaches in the NFL? He just seems like he's cut from a different cloth than them. He also seems to run a very tight ship with a fantastic eye for defensive talent. His defenses are always top notch and well coached.

Because both want to either be a GM or have control and Bowlen has not suggested that even part of this process.

AND because they are both unavailable. Cowher has told anyone that "listens" that he won't coach until at least 2010 (when his youngest daughter graduates HS). Parcells has a contract with Miami until further notice.

lex · 01-01-2009, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZONA

It looks like more of us prefer the DC over an OC.

I'd be curious, I wonder how many of the past 20 Superbowls were won by a HC that used to be a DC and how many by an OC.

I'm going to guess DC's get the nod.

1988- Bill Walsh O
1989- George Seigert D
1990- Bill Parcells D(?)
1991- Joe Gibbs O
1992- Jimmy Johnson D
1993- Jimmy Johnson D
1994- George Seifert D
1995- Barry Switzer ?
1996- Mike Holmgren O
1997- Mike Shanahan O
1998- Mike Shanahan O
1999- Dick Vermiel O?
2000- Brian Billick D ironic
2001- Bill Bilichick D
2002- John Gruden O
2003- Bill Bilichick D
2004- Bill Bilichick D
2005- Bill Cowher D
2006- Tony Dungy D
2007- Tom Coughlin ?

COWBELL · 01-01-2009, 06:37 PM

ryan
Spags
Johnson

Steve Sewell · 01-01-2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloodsunday

Because both want to either be a GM or have control and Bowlen has not suggested that even part of this process.

AND because they are both unavailable. Cowher has told anyone that "listens" that he won't coach until at least 2010 (when his youngest daughter graduates HS). Parcells has a contract with Miami until further notice.

Parcells has an out in his contract with the recent pending ownership change with the Miami Dolphins.

MechanicalBull · 01-01-2009, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lex

1988- Bill Walsh O
1989- George Seigert D
1990- Bill Parcells D(?)
1991- Joe Gibbs O
1992- Jimmy Johnson D
1993- Jimmy Johnson D
1994- George Seifert D
1995- Barry Switzer ?
1996- Mike Holmgren O
1997- Mike Shanahan O
1998- Mike Shanahan O
1999- Dick Vermiel O?
2000- Brian Billick D ironic
2001- Bill Bilichick D
2002- John Gruden O
2003- Bill Bilichick D
2004- Bill Bilichick D
2005- Bill Cowher D
2006- Tony Dungy D
2007- Tom Coughlin ?

Billick was an O guy.

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01-01-2009, 04:03 PM	#1
ZONA Ring of Famer If you smacked your screen, hahaha Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,492 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Your top 3 I'll go on the record and say Bowlen hires a DC as his next HC. These are the top 3 guys I think. I'm pretty sure one of these guys will be the next HC in Denver. The reason I think so is because DC's really know what kind of players to get (via draft or FA) and who ever the GM is, these guys can really help evaluate the defensive talent. At this stage, we have so many good offensive young players and hardly any defensive players that I think we really do need a defensive minded HC and I will be shocked if one of these guys is not the next HC. Rex Ryan (Ravens) Clancy Pendergast (Cardinals) Steve Spagnuolo (Giants) Last edited by ZONA; 01-01-2009 at 04:19 PM..

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Broncobiv Tee many martoonis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,271

01-01-2009, 04:20 PM	#3
ZONA Ring of Famer If you smacked your screen, hahaha Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,492 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Thanks Biv. Fixed.

01-01-2009, 04:21 PM	#4
Broncobiv Tee many martoonis Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,271	No, thank you!

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SureShot Te-believer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Paradise Divide Posts: 5,996 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Russell	1. Mike Shanahan 2. Spags 3. However can bring in Haynesworth

01-01-2009, 04:35 PM	#7
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Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,942 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I did some reading on Morris and Im convinced I dont want the guy. Too young, too inexperienced and too easy for him to **** up real bad. I dont mind going young but this guy is a little too young.

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01-01-2009, 06:11 PM	#13
ZONA Ring of Famer If you smacked your screen, hahaha Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,492 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	It looks like more of us prefer the DC over an OC. I'd be curious, I wonder how many of the past 20 Superbowls were won by a HC that used to be a DC and how many by an OC. I'm going to guess DC's get the nod.

01-01-2009, 06:16 PM	#15
bloodsunday Ring of Famer Nothing lasts forever. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dove Valley Posts: 5,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	1) Morris - by a country mile. ... 2) Josh McDaniels - I love the idea of him working with Cutler 3) Schwartz

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Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	Foneco Foneco Foneco

01-01-2009, 06:25 PM	#19
Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	On a serious note, can anyone tell me why the board has essentially eliminated names like Cowher and Parcells? I've been scouring the intarwebz and have found nothing that eliminates them as candidates. Just curious. Also, why is everyone dismissing Stoops? I hate the ****er (probably because he is so good and also arrogant as hell- which translates well to the league). Is it because of all the recent failed college coaches in the NFL? He just seems like he's cut from a different cloth than them. He also seems to run a very tight ship with a fantastic eye for defensive talent. His defenses are always top notch and well coached.

01-01-2009, 06:37 PM	#23
COWBELL Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lafayette, la Posts: 82 Adopt-a-Bronco: Cutler	ryan Spags Johnson