Let's Hope That Bowlen Doesn't Screw This Up - The Orange Mane

telluride · 01-01-2009, 01:18 PM

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

tsiguy96 · 01-01-2009, 01:34 PM

elway is not an operations guy, i dont know why he should ever even be considered for the GM job.

telluride · 01-01-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

elway is not an operations guy, i dont know why he should ever even be considered for the GM job.

That's probably the scariest scenario I've heard. We don't want Elway anywhere near the front office.

bronco militia · 01-01-2009, 01:47 PM

John Goodman will probably be the GM

DenverBrit · 01-01-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by telluride

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then let's Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

Do your own thoughts scare you much?

You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

telluride · 01-01-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Do your own thoughts scare you much?

You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

snowspot66 · 01-01-2009, 01:50 PM

Seeing as how the Goodman's are a big reason for our recent drafts I have no issue with them taking the GM spot.

socalorado · 01-01-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by telluride

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

Aw, cumrag, just be happy shannys gone! give it a rest will ya!??!
Now your acting like a freakin whiner about the next GM and HC already.
just relax, go have some chips and dip. Jeez.

DenverBrit · 01-01-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by telluride

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

The nearest you will get is as a season ticket holder.....otherwise, you're not a stockholder.
If you think posting 'I hate Shanahan' threads makes you a stockholder.....you're really delusional.
Spending time in a fan board means you're a fan, not a stockholder.

But keep dreaming.

rastaman · 01-01-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by telluride

That's probably the scariest scenario I've heard. We don't want Elway anywhere near the front office.

I'd be comfortable with Elway so long as its a mentorship learning position of how to become a GM over lets say 3-5 year period.

rastaman · 01-01-2009, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Do your own thoughts scare you much?

You have a lot of demands for someone who doesn't own stock.

You must admit....those are some good points!!!

DenverBrit · 01-01-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

You must admit....those are some good points!!!

Only if you think Bowlen is an incompetent retard.

Seriously. Bowlen is running a business, an $800 million franchise.
He's a smart man who just made a very tough decision that he knew would garner criticism from the Broncos fan base and NFL talking heads.
There really is no need to talk down to him, it's his franchise and so far he's made a lot of sound decisions.

Telluride has spent most of his time here demanding Shanahan be fired.
Now that it's happened, he wants to dictate who the next HC will be and who will be the new GM and insists the front office be fired.
You only get to make those demands when you own stock.
Telluride owns no stock.

Oh, and there was no need to start another thread on the topic....it's being beaten to death elsewhere.

Hercules Rockefeller · 01-01-2009, 02:15 PM

Sweet, another new thread with your opinion to go with everyone else's new thread with their opinion on the coaching/GM search.

Maybe someone in the future should just make a single thread with everyone's opinion on the direction they think the franchise should go?

Steve Sewell · 01-01-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telluride

That means:

No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood.

No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells.

No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go.

My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold.

I stopped taking this post seriously when you commented that Goodman is an amateur.

Oh and according to your standards, Bowlen has already screwed up because he said, emphatically, that the front office would remain intact.

watermock · 01-01-2009, 02:19 PM

I'll do it right now!

oubronco · 01-01-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalorado

Aw, cumrag, just be happy shannys gone! give it a rest will ya!??!
Now your acting like a freakin whiner about the next GM and HC already.
just relax, go have some chips and dip. Jeez.

Taco John · 01-01-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telluride

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

You should have used the word "stakeholder." People will quibble over the word "stockholder." But they can't say anything about the word "stakeholder."

Bronx33 · 01-01-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telluride

I am a stockholder. We all are. Anyone who cares enough about the Broncos to spend time on this board owns a piece of them. We're invested.

Holy****!

Taco John · 01-01-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Sweet, another new thread with your opinion to go with everyone else's new thread with their opinion on the coaching/GM search.

Maybe someone in the future should just make a single thread with everyone's opinion on the direction they think the franchise should go?

People are dreaming if they think a single thread is going to be able to contain the thoughts of such a diverse fan base. I'd be here 24 hours a day merging threads. People are going to have to get used to the idea that it's going to be very "stream of consciousness" around here (and everywhere else for that matter) until we get some solid ground back under us.

Dagmar · 01-01-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

John Goodman will probably be the GM

An LSU fan?
hmmmm.

enjolras · 01-01-2009, 02:27 PM

Reading between the lines of Bowlens presser yesterday, Goodman is the GM. That's why he's looking for a coach, not a GM.

Steve Sewell · 01-01-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

People are dreaming if they think a single thread is going to be able to contain the thoughts of such a diverse fan base. I'd be here 24 hours a day merging threads. People are going to have to get used to the idea that it's going to be very "stream of consciousness" around here (and everywhere else for that matter) until we get some solid ground back under us.

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.

Taco John · 01-01-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.

Public scorn pretty much does most of the moderating around here. I'm just the guy with the broom, a spray bottle, and a squeege.

Bronx33 · 01-01-2009, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

If 50% of the stream of consciousness posts weren't generated by complete buffoons who don't take the time to research their facts and present well thought out opinions, this would be a much more informative board.

Just being smart enough to use the search function would help and changing the title a little doesn't make it different fact is people don't care if they are posting the same thing over and over and over.

elsid13 · 01-01-2009, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

Public scorn pretty much does most of the moderating around here. I'm just the guy with the broom, a spray bottle, and a squeege.

Don't look now but I am sure Popps is starting a thread why you suck as a janitor, based upon his 30 years of watching cleaning staffs.

01-01-2009, 01:18 PM	#1
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	Let's Hope That Bowlen Doesn't Screw This Up That means: No cronies. Which means no GM or HC with old ties to the Broncos. No Fassel. No 'Dinger. No Kubiak. We need new blood. No amateurs as GM. Which means no Elway. No Goodmans. We need a real, proven, experienced GM to rework our front office. Let the Goodmans learn under a Pioli or Parcells. No, "we're just one person away" approach. Which means not simply hiring a HC and leaving the front office essentially as is. We need a clean break from past debacles. Keep Turner and maybe Dennison; the rest of the coaching and training staff must go. Keep the Goodmans as asst. GMs; the rest of the front office must go. My fear is that Bowlen tries to do this on the cheap. Hires a HC and then lets Elway play GM. Which would be a disaster. This franchise needs a full reboot, not a tweak. And Bowlen needs to seize this opportunity. A Pioli or a Parcells as GM. Plus a Spags or Ferentz. Be bold. Last edited by telluride; 01-01-2009 at 01:49 PM..

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01-01-2009, 01:34 PM	#2
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	elway is not an operations guy, i dont know why he should ever even be considered for the GM job.

01-01-2009, 01:47 PM	#4
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	John Goodman will probably be the GM

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snowspot66 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,642	Seeing as how the Goodman's are a big reason for our recent drafts I have no issue with them taking the GM spot.

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Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Sweet, another new thread with your opinion to go with everyone else's new thread with their opinion on the coaching/GM search. Maybe someone in the future should just make a single thread with everyone's opinion on the direction they think the franchise should go?

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watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	I'll do it right now!

01-01-2009, 02:27 PM	#21
enjolras Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,939	Reading between the lines of Bowlens presser yesterday, Goodman is the GM. That's why he's looking for a coach, not a GM.