Terry Pierce sums up perfectly why Shanahan had to go. - The Orange Mane

Bob's your Information Minister · 12-31-2008, 08:58 PM

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=33340.390

"Bosz56" is former KSU and Denver Broncos linebacker, Terry Pierce.

Quote from: kst8fan99 on Yesterday at 09:54:33 pm

Having played in Denver for Shanahan, what's your reaction to his firing today?

There is no denying that Shanahan brought to Denver what no other coach was able to bring in winning two super bowls. But to me, it is his arrogance that ruined his stay. Pat Bowlen (the owner) would have given Mike the keys to the damn city after those two super bowls. You could tell that Shanahan had waaaaaay too much power. He only kept the players around that he liked and it didn't matter whether or not they were performing.

I will say that as an offensive coach, the guy is as good as it gets. But as a GM/VP, his arrogance doesnt allow him to do the job. The defense that we had in 2003-2005 was really good(#3-#6 ranking in the NFL). He got rid of the entire defense. Deltha Oneal, Trevor Pryce, Mario Fatefehi, Al Wilson, Myself, Jashon Sykes, Sam Brandon, Kennoy kennedy, Darius Watts, George Foster (this includes several 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks) even Jason Elam wasn't paid minimally for all the success he brought to Denver on his leg.

When I got released, it was on the heels of an awesome training camp along with several others. That year he released 8 players that were in the two deep on defense ( something no team does). We were all high draft picks and it was very surprising that most if not all of us did not get picked up by other teams. This happens a when you leave Denver for some reason. Those are the players that continue in the system when your previous all-stars get old.

To put it bluntly, he ruined a lot of careers in Denver. And, he didn't care. It was ok until the outrageous things he was doing turned into losses.

Ironlung · 12-31-2008, 09:00 PM

Shut up.

Bob's your Information Minister · 12-31-2008, 09:01 PM

Come on, don't be hatin'

I'm happy for you guys.

TheDave · 12-31-2008, 09:03 PM

sounds like terry is still a little red assed over his NFL "Career"

~Crash~ · 12-31-2008, 09:06 PM

Sour graps .... there were plenty of player that left that are still in the NFL Pierce was a mis draft pick like KC never did the same thing .

really weak smack you must want Shanahan

BroncoMan4ever · 12-31-2008, 09:09 PM

he is an ass, but i would love to have some of those types of dudes back on the defense in denver again

Ray Finkle · 12-31-2008, 09:09 PM

if he was so "scary good" why did no other team bring him in?

~Crash~ · 12-31-2008, 09:12 PM

because a snail could beat him out in the 40

Ratboy · 12-31-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

if he was so "scary good" why did no other team bring him in?

He's got a point.

We let these guys go, and they run off a flourish some where else.

tnedator · 12-31-2008, 09:16 PM

Terry Pierce

This guy is really chiming in? What he should have said was, "all you need to know about how bad a GM Mike Shanahan was is that he drafted me..."

tnedator · 12-31-2008, 09:17 PM

That was a joke quote/post, right?

Crushaholic · 12-31-2008, 09:18 PM

About a month and a half ago, I met Terry Pierce at an autograph signing before a Kansas State football game. I introduced myself as a Broncos fan and he told me then that he and Shanahan just didn't get along. This message board post from Terry doesn't surprise me in the least. We have to remember that Pierce was playing behind Al Wilson. That meant he had no chance to start, unless Al was hurt. Al DID eventually get hurt, but that was after Pierce was already out of Denver...

baja · 12-31-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=33340.390

"Bosz56" is former KSU and Denver Broncos linebacker, Terry Pierce.

Quote from: kst8fan99 on Yesterday at 09:54:33 pm

Having played in Denver for Shanahan, what's your reaction to his firing today?

There is no denying that Shanahan brought to Denver what no other coach was able to bring in winning two super bowls. But to me, it is his arrogance that ruined his stay. Pat Bowlen (the owner) would have given Mike the keys to the damn city after those two super bowls. You could tell that Shanahan had waaaaaay too much power. He only kept the players around that he liked and it didn't matter whether or not they were performing.

I will say that as an offensive coach, the guy is as good as it gets. But as a GM/VP, his arrogance doesnt allow him to do the job. The defense that we had in 2003-2005 was really good(#3-#6 ranking in the NFL). He got rid of the entire defense. Deltha Oneal, Trevor Pryce, Mario Fatefehi, Al Wilson, Myself, Jashon Sykes, Sam Brandon, Kennoy kennedy, Darius Watts, George Foster (this includes several 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks) even Jason Elam wasn't paid minimally for all the success he brought to Denver on his leg.

When I got released, it was on the heels of an awesome training camp along with several others. That year he released 8 players that were in the two deep on defense ( something no team does). We were all high draft picks and it was very surprising that most if not all of us did not get picked up by other teams. This happens a when you leave Denver for some reason. Those are the players that continue in the system when your previous all-stars get old.

To put it bluntly, he ruined a lot of careers in Denver. And, he didn't care. It was ok until the outrageous things he was doing turned into losses.

you didn't get picked up because you weren't worth a shiit.

Rock Chalk · 12-31-2008, 09:26 PM

Ive summed up perfectly why Bob's ass needs to go yet, our fearless leader sticks with him.

I wish our fearless leader had as much balls as Bowlen did with Shanny and just banned Bob permanently.

baja · 12-31-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

About a month and a half ago, I met Terry Pierce at an autograph signing before a Kansas State football game. I introduced myself as a Broncos fan and he told me then that he and Shanahan just didn't get along. This message board post from Terry doesn't surprise me in the least. We have to remember that Pierce was playing behind Al Wilson. That meant he had no chance to start, unless Al was hurt. Al DID eventually get hurt, but that was after Pierce was already out of Denver...

Another wasted 2nd round pick

Rock Chalk · 12-31-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

About a month and a half ago, I met Terry Pierce at an autograph signing before a Kansas State football game. I introduced myself as a Broncos fan and he told me then that he and Shanahan just didn't get along. This message board post from Terry doesn't surprise me in the least. We have to remember that Pierce was playing behind Al Wilson. That meant he had no chance to start, unless Al was hurt. Al DID eventually get hurt, but that was after Pierce was already out of Denver...

Why the hell were you at a KSU game instead of a KU game? I should smack you.

Bronco LB 59 · 12-31-2008, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

About a month and a half ago, I met Terry Pierce at an autograph signing before a Kansas State football game. I introduced myself as a Broncos fan and he told me then that he and Shanahan just didn't get along. This message board post from Terry doesn't surprise me in the least. We have to remember that Pierce was playing behind Al Wilson. That meant he had no chance to start, unless Al was hurt. Al DID eventually get hurt, but that was after Pierce was already out of Denver...

Who would want Terry Pierce's autograph?

His ink is worth as much as yours.

Rock Chalk · 12-31-2008, 09:33 PM

Piece was a good MLB in college. His problem was he was slow and not very football smart outside of the simplistic collegiate schemes. Slow is one thing but if you are an MLB in the NFL you have to be intelligent and highly instinctual. He was not.

Rock Chalk · 12-31-2008, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco LB 59

Who would want Terry Pierce's autograph?

His ink is worth as much as yours.

K State fans. He was pretty good at K State. Led a good defense that upset OU and knocked them out of a title game in the Big 12 championship game (IIRC, Sproles was also in that game? Im pretty sure he was on that team).

Ironlung · 12-31-2008, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Why the hell were you at a KSU game instead of a KU game? I should smack you.

Real men DO NOT wear purple.

Ironlung · 12-31-2008, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

K State fans. He was pretty good at K State. Led a good defense that upset OU and knocked them out of a title game in the Big 12 championship game (IIRC, Sproles was also in that game? Im pretty sure he was on that team).

He ran for over 250 on em.

Crushaholic · 12-31-2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

K State fans. He was pretty good at K State. Led a good defense that upset OU and knocked them out of a title game in the Big 12 championship game (IIRC, Sproles was also in that game? Im pretty sure he was on that team).

I think you're right. Sproles was on the team during the Big XII title game. He finished 5th in Heisman voting that year (2003). An interesting tidbit of that autograph signing is that Kevin Lockett was also there. He briefly played WR for the Chorfs. He had the nerve to give me an autographed picture of him in a Chiefs uniform. I thought "Good. Now I have toilet paper"...

Florida_Bronco · 12-31-2008, 10:10 PM

I can understand why Pierce would be pissed. We drafted him thinking that we would need to replace Al Wilson, but then Wilson ended up re-signing and we tried to plug Pierce in at SAM, which he was not suited to play.

baja · 12-31-2008, 10:12 PM

he was too stupid to play mlb

Taco John · 12-31-2008, 10:21 PM

Thanks for the laugh Bob. Terry Pierce!

I can't wait to hear what Quentin Griffin thinks of this!

12-31-2008, 08:58 PM	#1
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Terry Pierce sums up perfectly why Shanahan had to go. http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=33340.390 "Bosz56" is former KSU and Denver Broncos linebacker, Terry Pierce. Quote from: kst8fan99 on Yesterday at 09:54:33 pm Having played in Denver for Shanahan, what's your reaction to his firing today? There is no denying that Shanahan brought to Denver what no other coach was able to bring in winning two super bowls. But to me, it is his arrogance that ruined his stay. Pat Bowlen (the owner) would have given Mike the keys to the damn city after those two super bowls. You could tell that Shanahan had waaaaaay too much power. He only kept the players around that he liked and it didn't matter whether or not they were performing. I will say that as an offensive coach, the guy is as good as it gets. But as a GM/VP, his arrogance doesnt allow him to do the job. The defense that we had in 2003-2005 was really good(#3-#6 ranking in the NFL). He got rid of the entire defense. Deltha Oneal, Trevor Pryce, Mario Fatefehi, Al Wilson, Myself, Jashon Sykes, Sam Brandon, Kennoy kennedy, Darius Watts, George Foster (this includes several 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks) even Jason Elam wasn't paid minimally for all the success he brought to Denver on his leg. When I got released, it was on the heels of an awesome training camp along with several others. That year he released 8 players that were in the two deep on defense ( something no team does). We were all high draft picks and it was very surprising that most if not all of us did not get picked up by other teams. This happens a when you leave Denver for some reason. Those are the players that continue in the system when your previous all-stars get old. To put it bluntly, he ruined a lot of careers in Denver. And, he didn't care. It was ok until the outrageous things he was doing turned into losses.

12-31-2008, 09:18 PM	#12
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	About a month and a half ago, I met Terry Pierce at an autograph signing before a Kansas State football game. I introduced myself as a Broncos fan and he told me then that he and Shanahan just didn't get along. This message board post from Terry doesn't surprise me in the least. We have to remember that Pierce was playing behind Al Wilson. That meant he had no chance to start, unless Al was hurt. Al DID eventually get hurt, but that was after Pierce was already out of Denver... Last edited by Crushaholic; 12-31-2008 at 09:22 PM..

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12-31-2008, 09:00 PM	#2
Ironlung Terminator Snake Bitten Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 891	Shut up.

12-31-2008, 09:01 PM	#3
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Come on, don't be hatin' I'm happy for you guys.

12-31-2008, 09:03 PM	#4
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	sounds like terry is still a little red assed over his NFL "Career"

12-31-2008, 09:06 PM	#5
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	Sour graps .... there were plenty of player that left that are still in the NFL Pierce was a mis draft pick like KC never did the same thing . really weak smack you must want Shanahan

12-31-2008, 09:09 PM	#6
BroncoMan4ever Ring of Famer Here to chew bubblegum and kick ass Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 11,565 Adopt-a-Bronco: VIRGIL GREEN!!!	he is an ass, but i would love to have some of those types of dudes back on the defense in denver again

12-31-2008, 09:09 PM	#7
Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,406	if he was so "scary good" why did no other team bring him in?

12-31-2008, 09:12 PM	#8
~Crash~ My new dog Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,600 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kuper	because a snail could beat him out in the 40

12-31-2008, 09:16 PM	#10
tnedator Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,835 Adopt-a-Bronco: He be gone..	Terry Pierce This guy is really chiming in? What he should have said was, "all you need to know about how bad a GM Mike Shanahan was is that he drafted me..."

12-31-2008, 09:17 PM	#11
tnedator Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,835 Adopt-a-Bronco: He be gone..	That was a joke quote/post, right?

12-31-2008, 09:26 PM	#14
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Ive summed up perfectly why Bob's ass needs to go yet, our fearless leader sticks with him. I wish our fearless leader had as much balls as Bowlen did with Shanny and just banned Bob permanently.

12-31-2008, 09:33 PM	#18
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Piece was a good MLB in college. His problem was he was slow and not very football smart outside of the simplistic collegiate schemes. Slow is one thing but if you are an MLB in the NFL you have to be intelligent and highly instinctual. He was not.

12-31-2008, 10:10 PM	#23
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	I can understand why Pierce would be pissed. We drafted him thinking that we would need to replace Al Wilson, but then Wilson ended up re-signing and we tried to plug Pierce in at SAM, which he was not suited to play.

12-31-2008, 10:12 PM	#24
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	he was too stupid to play mlb

12-31-2008, 10:21 PM	#25
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Thanks for the laugh Bob. Terry Pierce! I can't wait to hear what Quentin Griffin thinks of this!