anyone NOT want to see josh mcdaniels as next HC? - The Orange Mane

tsiguy96 · 12-30-2008, 07:14 PM

hes a perfect fit in so many ways, and considering he gets a true DC, which shanny refused to do, it could be a match made in heaven. hes a great OC, we have great talent on offense, we could easily be #1 in all offense categories next year. any objections?

extralife · 12-30-2008, 07:16 PM

I don't want to see it. We already have our own version in Jeremy Bates. That one has a relationship with our quarterback, too. Bring in an offense guy and you can also kiss Bobby Turner and Rick Dennison good bye. Where is the upside here?

socalorado · 12-30-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I don't want to see it. We already have our own version in Jeremy Bates. That one has a relationship with our quarterback, too. Bring in an offense guy and you can also kiss Bobby Turner and Rick Dennison good bye. Where is the upside here?

Sorry, but Bates is not in the same building with McDaniels.

I would love this move.
But Bowlen would need to get a good D-coordinator to go with him.

Bronx33 · 12-30-2008, 07:18 PM

These guys are talking about him

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=75613

tsiguy96 · 12-30-2008, 07:18 PM

i dont know that anyone would ever fire bobby turner or rick dennison, given that we had production from about 10 backs this year and none of them looked awful. they are much much better then anyone that mcdaniels can bring in, im sure hes somewhat aware of that.

Rocky Mountain Stampede · 12-30-2008, 07:24 PM

Screw the Patriots and their scum. I don't want anything to do with that franchise. Bob Kraft is Satan. What kind of dirtbag shakes hands with Vladimir Putin and gives him a Super Bowl ring?

Popps · 12-30-2008, 07:26 PM

I wouldn't be upset with this scenario, though I'd still love to see Cowher come in and build a real playoff-style team in Denver again.

gunns · 12-30-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I don't want to see it. We already have our own version in Jeremy Bates. That one has a relationship with our quarterback, too. Bring in an offense guy and you can also kiss Bobby Turner and Rick Dennison good bye. Where is the upside here?

I would be unhappy if Turner left, elated if Dennison did.

TonyR · 12-30-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Mountain Stampede

Screw the Patriots and their scum. I don't want anything to do with that franchise.

Yeah, they suck and never win anything! (shakes head in bewilderment)

Ray Finkle · 12-30-2008, 07:28 PM

I'd still rather see Spags as head coach.

tsiguy96 · 12-30-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

I'd still rather see Spags as head coach.

we have an amazing offense now, if we had a great person to coach them, think how good we could be, especially if he finds a good DC to go with it.

Drek · 12-30-2008, 07:31 PM

I'd prefer Steve Spagnuolo to fix our defense, let the Goodmans keep picking the personnel, and see if we can have Dennison and Bates try to make the offense more consistent.

Rocky Mountain Stampede · 12-30-2008, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

Yeah, they suck and never win anything! (shakes head in bewilderment)

By hiring New England personnel, Denver lets the enemy win. I respect New England for their football know-how, but I don't want to join them or be associated with them. It's principal.

jmz313 · 12-30-2008, 07:32 PM

I want a D minded head coach who will hire well for the O.

montrose · 12-30-2008, 07:37 PM

Considering the recent success (or lack thereof) of Pats Assistants, I'd pass on McDaniels as I'd rather promote Bates if we're going young and offensive at HC.

jbiel · 12-30-2008, 07:38 PM

If there was speculation that shanny wouldnt fire slowik and that is why he got fired, why havent we heard that slowik is out yet. If we let go of shanny and keep slowik, i will no longer be a fan of bowlen. this is tuff news to handle and i dont believe its the right decision, but i'll give bowlen a chance. i'm just nervous that it will be hard to get excited about broncos football for the next 5 years.

This team could be dominant even if it had an average defense, but its tough to expect championships from a pop warner D.

eddie mac · 12-30-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Considering the recent success (or lack thereof) of Pats Assistants, I'd pass on McDaniels as I'd rather promote Bates if we're going young and offensive at HC.

You ever notice that they were all defensive coaches

McDaniel also has the deepest respect for Bill Belicheat and if Bill says he aint ready Josh will stand pat unlike Mangina who went ahead and took the job anyway after being told he wasn't ready.

Pioli is the ultimate hire, the HC is secondary IMO.

SlipperyPete · 12-30-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by montrose

Considering the recent success (or lack thereof) of Pats Assistants, I'd pass on McDaniels

QTF

How many Patriots coaches have to fail elsewhere before people stop giving them jobs?

IHaveALight · 12-30-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Mountain Stampede

By hiring New England personnel, Denver lets the enemy win. I respect New England for their football know-how, but I don't want to join them or be associated with them. It's principal.

Let's the enemy win by hiring guys from the Pat's??
How the hell do the Pat's win by losing a guy that had a lot to do with their success?
Further more, every NFL team not named the Broncos is the enemy. So what, we're not supposed to hire anyone from the NFL now?

Taco John · 12-30-2008, 07:52 PM

I'm always dubious of hiring 30 year old guys to coach an NFL team. If it goes south, it goes south quickly...

Florida_Bronco · 12-30-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gunns

elated if Dennison did.

Didn't Mediator already straighten you out on that one?

BroncoBuff · 12-30-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jbiel

If there was speculation that shanny wouldnt fire slowik and that is why he got fired, why havent we heard that slowik is out yet. If we let go of shanny and keep slowik, i will no longer be a fan of bowlen.

No ... Bowlen fired Shanny because Shanny would not fire Slowick. That's a matter of record now. So relax ... Slowick is history.

I must agree with the thrust of this thread ... sure, McDaniel would be an intriguing HC, but we need an intriguing DC. That's the sticky wicket here.

ludo21 · 12-30-2008, 08:08 PM

I want a defensive coach.

The offense could be coached by monkeys and be top 10, we need a defensive mind now.

Rocky Mountain Stampede · 12-30-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 13WaysToBleed

Let's the enemy win by hiring guys from the Pat's??
How the hell do the Pat's win by losing a guy that had a lot to do with their success?
Further more, every NFL team not named the Broncos is the enemy. So what, we're not supposed to hire anyone from the NFL now?

The Patriots treat their players like pieces of meat. I don't want their organizational philosophies spreading to Denver. I hate their dink-and-dunk offense, too.

This is not any other franchise, this is one of Denver's top five most hated rivals.

It's deeper than just football. Bob Kraft, their owner, is a deplorable human being.

extralife · 12-30-2008, 08:09 PM

...the Pats are our rivals?

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12-30-2008, 07:14 PM	#1
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	anyone NOT want to see josh mcdaniels as next HC? hes a perfect fit in so many ways, and considering he gets a true DC, which shanny refused to do, it could be a match made in heaven. hes a great OC, we have great talent on offense, we could easily be #1 in all offense categories next year. any objections?

12-30-2008, 07:16 PM	#2
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,907	I don't want to see it. We already have our own version in Jeremy Bates. That one has a relationship with our quarterback, too. Bring in an offense guy and you can also kiss Bobby Turner and Rick Dennison good bye. Where is the upside here?

12-30-2008, 07:18 PM	#4
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	These guys are talking about him http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=75613

12-30-2008, 07:24 PM	#6
Rocky Mountain Stampede Solid Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 226	Screw the Patriots and their scum. I don't want anything to do with that franchise. Bob Kraft is Satan. What kind of dirtbag shakes hands with Vladimir Putin and gives him a Super Bowl ring?

12-30-2008, 07:26 PM	#7
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	I wouldn't be upset with this scenario, though I'd still love to see Cowher come in and build a real playoff-style team in Denver again.

12-30-2008, 07:28 PM	#10
Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,411	I'd still rather see Spags as head coach.

12-30-2008, 07:31 PM	#12
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,317	I'd prefer Steve Spagnuolo to fix our defense, let the Goodmans keep picking the personnel, and see if we can have Dennison and Bates try to make the offense more consistent.

12-30-2008, 07:32 PM	#14
jmz313 Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 982	I want a D minded head coach who will hire well for the O.

12-30-2008, 07:37 PM	#15
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Considering the recent success (or lack thereof) of Pats Assistants, I'd pass on McDaniels as I'd rather promote Bates if we're going young and offensive at HC.

12-30-2008, 07:38 PM	#16
jbiel Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: ND Posts: 304	If there was speculation that shanny wouldnt fire slowik and that is why he got fired, why havent we heard that slowik is out yet. If we let go of shanny and keep slowik, i will no longer be a fan of bowlen. this is tuff news to handle and i dont believe its the right decision, but i'll give bowlen a chance. i'm just nervous that it will be hard to get excited about broncos football for the next 5 years. This team could be dominant even if it had an average defense, but its tough to expect championships from a pop warner D.

12-30-2008, 07:52 PM	#20
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I'm always dubious of hiring 30 year old guys to coach an NFL team. If it goes south, it goes south quickly...

12-30-2008, 08:08 PM	#23
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,911 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I want a defensive coach. The offense could be coached by monkeys and be top 10, we need a defensive mind now.

12-30-2008, 08:09 PM	#25
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,907	...the Pats are our rivals?