Should the new coach be required to keep Dennison and Bates? - The Orange Mane

RunSilentRunDeep · 12-30-2008, 02:50 PM

I think so. It's a young offense and continuity is important. Fire the whole D-staff since there was no continuity at all.

no-pseudo-fan · 12-30-2008, 02:53 PM

Hire a defensive coach, and leave bates and turner alone.

crowebomber · 12-30-2008, 02:54 PM

Maybe. New coach will come in and clean house. One or some coaches will be kept if they saw success this year because the new coach will need someone who knows the players, the organization. .

sirhcyennek81 · 12-30-2008, 02:57 PM

Leave the offensive staff in place and bring in a man who knows defense...Cowher would be good. This sucks though. Completely.

orange crusher · 12-30-2008, 03:06 PM

I like the idea of keeping Bates and Turner, but could care less about Dennison.

Taco John · 12-30-2008, 03:08 PM

Why wouldn't Shanahan take his guys with him?

bowtown · 12-30-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by orange crusher

I like the idea of keeping Bates and Turner, but could care less about Dennison.

I see, so you want to keep the guys responsible for running and throwing the ball but really have no interest in opening the holes and protecting them. Interesting.

BroncoInferno · 12-30-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Why wouldn't Shanahan take his guys with him?

I think he will unless either Shanny decides to take some time off or if Bowlen makes an inhouse hire like Bates.

Rock Chalk · 12-30-2008, 03:12 PM

If Dennison and Turner go (I could care less about Bates aka Martz Jr), our offense will get set back.

yerner · 12-30-2008, 03:14 PM

Of course not.

clint7 · 12-30-2008, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Why wouldn't Shanahan take his guys with him?

Exactly.

chaz · 12-30-2008, 03:20 PM

The losses on the offensive staff/system, will hurt more than losing shanahan

RunSilentRunDeep · 12-30-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Why wouldn't Shanahan take his guys with him?

Cause they're under contract. Bates just got an extension. Shanny would have to pay them more and provide the illusion of a promotion.

Also, Denver is a sweet gig. What's Mike gonna say? "Hey guys, want to live in Detroit with me and develop Dan Orvolsky?"

Taco John · 12-30-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

I think he will unless either Shanny decides to take some time off or if Bowlen makes an inhouse hire like Bates.

If Shanahan does that, we're absolutely screwed. Bowlen is on the hook for his salary until he gets a new job. We can't even participate in the first round of coaching hires because of the money situation.

This move will prove to be the unravelling of what we've just built.

Ray Finkle · 12-30-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

If Shanahan does that, we're absolutely screwed. Bowlen is on the hook for his salary until he gets a new job. We can't even participate in the first round of coaching hires because of the money situation.

This move will prove to be the unravelling of what we've just built.

gets the cash either way....

BroncoInferno · 12-30-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

If Shanahan does that, we're absolutely screwed. Bowlen is on the hook for his salary until he gets a new job. We can't even participate in the first round of coaching hires because of the money situation.

This move will prove to be the unravelling of what we've just built.

Bowlen's got deep pockets, I doubt he would have made this move unless he was confident he could lure in a top level candidate. Don't get me wrong, I think Shanny should have gotten another year like you did. But sometimes a fresh approach can help things. I am taking a wait and see approach. I think talk of a coach is putting the cart before the horse. The first target will be a GM. I will be happy if we bring in Pioli.

chaz · 12-30-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Bowlen's got deep pockets, I doubt he would have made this move unless he was confident he could lure in a top level candidate. Don't get me wrong, I think Shanny should have gotten another year like you did. But sometimes a fresh approach can help things. I am taking a wait and see approach. I think talk of a coach is putting the cart before the horse. The first target will be a GM. I will be happy if we bring in Pioli.

Ya Pioli would be a great pickup...I'd love to adopt the patriots draft strategies

BroncoBuff · 12-30-2008, 03:39 PM

JIM GOODMAN for General Manager

Bob · 12-30-2008, 03:39 PM

All I know is our O doesnt need a major overhaul -- so hopefully we will get a D minded coach...

titan · 12-30-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

The first target will be a GM. I will be happy if we bring in Pioli.

I said the same thing when I broke the news to a friend. Everybody is talking about the next coach - I'd get the top GM available, the best talent evaluator out there, and let the GM pick the coach. I'd go with an experienced talent evaluator GM/young coach combo instead of bringing in a retread old coach to handle both roles.

broncofan7 · 12-30-2008, 03:49 PM

Not if we hire Josh McDaniels......

12-30-2008, 02:50 PM	#1
RunSilentRunDeep Ring of Famer I root for laundry Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,403 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Should the new coach be required to keep Dennison and Bates? I think so. It's a young offense and continuity is important. Fire the whole D-staff since there was no continuity at all.

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crowebomber Ring of Famer Old School Sucka Fool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: P-Town Posts: 1,517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Frank Tripucka	Maybe. New coach will come in and clean house. One or some coaches will be kept if they saw success this year because the new coach will need someone who knows the players, the organization. . Last edited by crowebomber; 12-30-2008 at 02:56 PM.. Reason: answering question in wrong thread

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12-30-2008, 02:53 PM	#2
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	Hire a defensive coach, and leave bates and turner alone.

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sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,678 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Leave the offensive staff in place and bring in a man who knows defense...Cowher would be good. This sucks though. Completely.

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orange crusher Predominately Orange Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 2,563	I like the idea of keeping Bates and Turner, but could care less about Dennison.

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,706 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Why wouldn't Shanahan take his guys with him?

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Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	If Dennison and Turner go (I could care less about Bates aka Martz Jr), our offense will get set back.

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yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,305	Of course not.

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chaz highly touted recruit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,455 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Bruton	The losses on the offensive staff/system, will hurt more than losing shanahan

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Bob Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,330	All I know is our O doesnt need a major overhaul -- so hopefully we will get a D minded coach...

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broncofan7 AKA "THE STANDARD" BQ looks ALMOST as good as I do Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BIG D Posts: 6,022	Not if we hire Josh McDaniels......