Okay Cutler - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 12-27-2008, 10:00 AM

This is it. The biggest game of your career tomorrow. On the road. With plenty of emotion invested against the team and their quarterback. Against a more talented football team. Against an offense more than capable of scoring against your defense every time it touches the ball.

Until you win this game, and games like this, and go into the post season and rack up a few wins, people will continue to wonder where in the world Jake Plummer is playing handball, regardless of whatever franchise records you can throw for in only your third season.

Until this game is behind you with a victory, and a deep jaunt into the playoffs, people will continue to doubt your coach that helped mold you into the third year pro-bowler, regardless of whatever franchise records of ineptitude your defense is cracking this year.

MechanicalBull · 12-27-2008, 10:18 AM

We need a mixture of Cutler from the first Oak, SD and Cleveland games.

The running game most likely won't be there so he has to be clutch on every play and limit his mistakes. Don't force the ball to anyone.

Schism · 12-27-2008, 10:19 AM

Cutler still has a lot to prove, but I'll be basically in awe of the guy if he can win tomorrow.

With no running game whatsoever, he's going to have to put up upwards of 30 points to compete in this game.

And he'll have bad field position all day, and get no extra chances whatsoever off turnovers.

He basically needs to be perfect.

tsiguy96 · 12-27-2008, 10:19 AM

im sure hell read this and be inspired

Los Broncos · 12-27-2008, 10:23 AM

What a stupid thread.

Ironlung · 12-27-2008, 10:29 AM

With as little heart as Denver has showed this season, they probably already have their vacations booked for Monday.

Dagmar · 12-27-2008, 10:41 AM

Unless we pull a running game out of our asses again, we don't have a hope I'm afraid.

rastaman · 12-27-2008, 11:00 AM

It would be great if Cutler helps Denver to a win tomorrow. Without a running game to keep the SD defense honest....it will be a tall order for Cutler and the Broncos to pull this one out.

However, win or loose what I want to see from Cutler is (1) emotional maturity, (2) smart play, and (3) sound field generalship.

(1) This means no more sulking and pouting on the sidelines....instead Cutler needs to rally his offensive linemen to execute and give him the time he needs.

(2) No more throwing into in double and triple coverage! Take what the Defense is giving you and check down to your 2nd and 3rd WR's.

(3) Cutler must be the leader! Inspire your WR's to run crisp routes and get into the "grills" of those WR's who run the wrong routes and drop passes. Be the "Field General" and build for next year Jay!!! Inspire your team to run thru brick walls for a victory! You lead, and your teammates will follow.

Scheffler, Marshall, Royal, Graham, and Stokely must realize w/o a viable running attack, they themselves and their performances are keys to the Broncos upsetting the Chargers. They must catch every ball conceivably possible, run the crisp-precise routes----and NO TURN-OVERS!!!

For the first two qtrs, the Denver defense will be playing with allot of emotions and gritty termination. But nothing drains a Defense more than when an offense can't convert 3rd and short or 3rd and long!!!!

Nothing drains the emotions and saps the energy of a Defense when they can't get off the field! Which means Slowick can't continue to allow his CB's to play 10 and 12 yards of opposing WR's!!!

The Defense will need to see the OL perform with the least amount of false start and holding penalties. Nor does the Defense after after holding SD to 3 and out, need to see Cutler throw interceptions or a WR or RB fumble the ball.

Yep its going to take a total team effort on both sides of the ball in order for Cutler and the Broncos to pull off the upset.....BUT IT CAN BE DONE!!!

We Bronco Fans, just can't point the finger and single out one player win or loose. Its going to take a total team effort.

ludo21 · 12-27-2008, 11:29 AM

No turnovers and we got a shot.

crawdad · 12-27-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludo21

No turnovers and we got a shot.

Repped for truth

tsiguy96 · 12-27-2008, 11:31 AM

can someone tell me when the 7-8 chargers became the best team in the NFL? thats how you are all talking.

rastaman · 12-27-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

can someone tell me when the 7-8 chargers became the best team in the NFL? thats how you are all talking.

Mentally, the entire Bronco team needs to act as if the Chargers are 14-1!!!! in order to play the game of their young careers!!!

rastaman · 12-27-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AtH2O-27

With as little heart as Denver has showed this season, they probably already have their vacations booked for Monday.

Yep the true quitters who should have been identified, exposed, and cut!! These players were allowed to manipulate and fake their way onto the 2008 Broncos roster.

Now these same players can't wait until the end of the season to go out and spend some of Bowlen money......and start all over again next summer.

Hell coaches don't seem to mind after all they had a chance to find out who the quitters were during the training camp and 4 preseason games.......so why should the players who quit mind

Jason in LA · 12-27-2008, 11:50 AM

First thing, I wouldn't say that the Chargers are that much more talented than the Broncos, if more talented at all. The Chargers being the most talented team in the league has always been BS to me.

Second, anybody who thinks Plummer would take this team, or the '06 team, to the playoffs didn't really follow the situation at all.

Spider · 12-27-2008, 11:51 AM

this thread should have started out like this ...........
Dear mr Cutler , as you are well aware , this coming sunday you will be facing the greatest 7-8 team evah in the NFL . it will take all of your skill to beat this greatest evah 7-8 team .........
We fans of the orange mane can not handle another melt down this year .....
So man up and beat the greatest 7-8 team evah ...........

Jason in LA · 12-27-2008, 11:57 AM

How about calling out the defense. If they could actually stop somebody then maybe Cutler wouldn't have to turn in a HOF performance to win a game.

ludo21 · 12-27-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

How about calling out the defense. If they could actually stop somebody then maybe Cutler wouldn't have to turn in a HOF performance to win a game.

When the offense goes into stall/Turnover mode it doesnt help the defense at all... it goes both ways.

We will need good efforts by both teams, and of course Special Teams needs to show up.

Broncos4tw · 12-27-2008, 12:15 PM

It's the defense that needs to step up. Cutler is FINE. Our offense is FINE.

Our pathetic second to last (thanks Lions!) interception #s is the key reason we are -15 on the year. It's pathetic. Guess who has as many fumbles as Denver? The Titans. Guess who is +14 as opposed to our -15? The Titans.

You can't win if you can't EVER even up the turnovers. All teams turn the ball over. Stop pinning our defenses (thanks Slowik!) inability to ever get the ball, with our offenses very AVERAGE # of turnovers.

Our offense shouldn't have to play like juggernauts to win games. It would be kind of nice if our defense helped out a little.

Play2win · 12-27-2008, 12:23 PM

Put Larsen in at MLB and you would think our chances improve by 1000%...

TheReverend · 12-27-2008, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doom Crew72

What a stupid thread.

You're right. It's not nearly as good as this insightful gem:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=70983

TheReverend · 12-27-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsiguy96

im sure hell read this and be inspired

I didn't think you of all people would miss the point...

Ironlung · 12-27-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

You're right. It's not nearly as good as this insightful gem:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=70983

TonyR · 12-27-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broncos4tw

Our offense shouldn't have to play like juggernauts to win games. It would be kind of nice if our defense helped out a little.

Well, our offense only managed 279 yards and 10 points against Carolina, and then only put up 23 last week despite 532 yards. Yes, our defense is awful but our offense didn't do enough either.

Jason in LA · 12-27-2008, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludo21

When the offense goes into stall/Turnover mode it doesnt help the defense at all... it goes both ways.

We will need good efforts by both teams, and of course Special Teams needs to show up.

In theory I agree with that, but even if the offense is playing great the defense still sucks. And the offense isn't always going to play great. At some point the defense is going to have to step up and win a game.

bpc · 12-27-2008, 12:28 PM

This thread is retarded.

We'll be wondering where Jake is? No. Not really.

I know what Jay can do. I know what Jake can do. There isn't any similarity between them. The circumstances are totally different.

I'll be disappointed if we don't win but for those that know what they are looking at, there is light at the end of the tunnel either way. If we win, its just hastening the process.

Shanahan isn't a fool. He knows what the issues with this team are. We are going to find an answer to our running game and we're going after some players or coaches that can impact the defense.

Win or lose this game, Jay is going over the .500 mark next year for his career record. He also will have a great chance of winning the AFC West for a 1st or 2nd time depending on Sunday night.

This weekend will provide one of two things. It will either provide a division championship and playoff experience or it will drop us to 11th or 12th in the draft where we will be in prime position to select an impact player on defense (DL, LB or DB) or a blue chip HB like Beanie Wells.

Either way I think this team is moving forward. I'm not really worried about a thing. The worst thing that can happen is that we'll have to hear SD run their mouth for another week or an offseason. It sucks but they aren't walking away with any trophies this year.

12-27-2008, 10:00 AM	#1
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,966 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Okay Cutler This is it. The biggest game of your career tomorrow. On the road. With plenty of emotion invested against the team and their quarterback. Against a more talented football team. Against an offense more than capable of scoring against your defense every time it touches the ball. Until you win this game, and games like this, and go into the post season and rack up a few wins, people will continue to wonder where in the world Jake Plummer is playing handball, regardless of whatever franchise records you can throw for in only your third season. Until this game is behind you with a victory, and a deep jaunt into the playoffs, people will continue to doubt your coach that helped mold you into the third year pro-bowler, regardless of whatever franchise records of ineptitude your defense is cracking this year.

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12-27-2008, 10:18 AM	#2
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	We need a mixture of Cutler from the first Oak, SD and Cleveland games. The running game most likely won't be there so he has to be clutch on every play and limit his mistakes. Don't force the ball to anyone.

12-27-2008, 10:19 AM	#3
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Cutler still has a lot to prove, but I'll be basically in awe of the guy if he can win tomorrow. With no running game whatsoever, he's going to have to put up upwards of 30 points to compete in this game. And he'll have bad field position all day, and get no extra chances whatsoever off turnovers. He basically needs to be perfect.

12-27-2008, 10:19 AM	#4
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	im sure hell read this and be inspired

12-27-2008, 10:23 AM	#5
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	What a stupid thread.

12-27-2008, 10:29 AM	#6
Ironlung Terminator Snake Bitten Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 891	With as little heart as Denver has showed this season, they probably already have their vacations booked for Monday.

12-27-2008, 10:41 AM	#7
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Unless we pull a running game out of our asses again, we don't have a hope I'm afraid.

12-27-2008, 11:00 AM	#8
rastaman Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,180 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It would be great if Cutler helps Denver to a win tomorrow. Without a running game to keep the SD defense honest....it will be a tall order for Cutler and the Broncos to pull this one out. However, win or loose what I want to see from Cutler is (1) emotional maturity, (2) smart play, and (3) sound field generalship. (1) This means no more sulking and pouting on the sidelines....instead Cutler needs to rally his offensive linemen to execute and give him the time he needs. (2) No more throwing into in double and triple coverage! Take what the Defense is giving you and check down to your 2nd and 3rd WR's. (3) Cutler must be the leader! Inspire your WR's to run crisp routes and get into the "grills" of those WR's who run the wrong routes and drop passes. Be the "Field General" and build for next year Jay!!! Inspire your team to run thru brick walls for a victory! You lead, and your teammates will follow. Scheffler, Marshall, Royal, Graham, and Stokely must realize w/o a viable running attack, they themselves and their performances are keys to the Broncos upsetting the Chargers. They must catch every ball conceivably possible, run the crisp-precise routes----and NO TURN-OVERS!!! For the first two qtrs, the Denver defense will be playing with allot of emotions and gritty termination. But nothing drains a Defense more than when an offense can't convert 3rd and short or 3rd and long!!!! Nothing drains the emotions and saps the energy of a Defense when they can't get off the field! Which means Slowick can't continue to allow his CB's to play 10 and 12 yards of opposing WR's!!! The Defense will need to see the OL perform with the least amount of false start and holding penalties. Nor does the Defense after after holding SD to 3 and out, need to see Cutler throw interceptions or a WR or RB fumble the ball. Yep its going to take a total team effort on both sides of the ball in order for Cutler and the Broncos to pull off the upset.....BUT IT CAN BE DONE!!! We Bronco Fans, just can't point the finger and single out one player win or loose. Its going to take a total team effort.

12-27-2008, 11:29 AM	#9
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,898 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	No turnovers and we got a shot.

12-27-2008, 11:31 AM	#11
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	can someone tell me when the 7-8 chargers became the best team in the NFL? thats how you are all talking.

12-27-2008, 11:50 AM	#14
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	First thing, I wouldn't say that the Chargers are that much more talented than the Broncos, if more talented at all. The Chargers being the most talented team in the league has always been BS to me. Second, anybody who thinks Plummer would take this team, or the '06 team, to the playoffs didn't really follow the situation at all.

12-27-2008, 11:51 AM	#15
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	this thread should have started out like this ........... Dear mr Cutler , as you are well aware , this coming sunday you will be facing the greatest 7-8 team evah in the NFL . it will take all of your skill to beat this greatest evah 7-8 team ......... We fans of the orange mane can not handle another melt down this year ..... So man up and beat the greatest 7-8 team evah ...........

12-27-2008, 11:57 AM	#16
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	How about calling out the defense. If they could actually stop somebody then maybe Cutler wouldn't have to turn in a HOF performance to win a game.

12-27-2008, 12:15 PM	#18
Broncos4tw Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,458	It's the defense that needs to step up. Cutler is FINE. Our offense is FINE. Our pathetic second to last (thanks Lions!) interception #s is the key reason we are -15 on the year. It's pathetic. Guess who has as many fumbles as Denver? The Titans. Guess who is +14 as opposed to our -15? The Titans. You can't win if you can't EVER even up the turnovers. All teams turn the ball over. Stop pinning our defenses (thanks Slowik!) inability to ever get the ball, with our offenses very AVERAGE # of turnovers. Our offense shouldn't have to play like juggernauts to win games. It would be kind of nice if our defense helped out a little.

12-27-2008, 12:23 PM	#19
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Put Larsen in at MLB and you would think our chances improve by 1000%...

12-27-2008, 12:28 PM	#25
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,566 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	This thread is retarded. We'll be wondering where Jake is? No. Not really. I know what Jay can do. I know what Jake can do. There isn't any similarity between them. The circumstances are totally different. I'll be disappointed if we don't win but for those that know what they are looking at, there is light at the end of the tunnel either way. If we win, its just hastening the process. Shanahan isn't a fool. He knows what the issues with this team are. We are going to find an answer to our running game and we're going after some players or coaches that can impact the defense. Win or lose this game, Jay is going over the .500 mark next year for his career record. He also will have a great chance of winning the AFC West for a 1st or 2nd time depending on Sunday night. This weekend will provide one of two things. It will either provide a division championship and playoff experience or it will drop us to 11th or 12th in the draft where we will be in prime position to select an impact player on defense (DL, LB or DB) or a blue chip HB like Beanie Wells. Either way I think this team is moving forward. I'm not really worried about a thing. The worst thing that can happen is that we'll have to hear SD run their mouth for another week or an offseason. It sucks but they aren't walking away with any trophies this year.