3 sacks in the last 5 games is a disgrace - The Orange Mane

eddie mac · 12-14-2008, 04:53 PM

Someone's head's gotta role for this.

Be it Slowik or the idiot D-Line coaches we have.

I can't recall the last time we actually got any decent pressure on a QB, that's how bad it is.

Elvis Dumervil, double-teamed all of last year cant beat anyone in one on one match-ups this season. Both Robertson and Thomas are a total non-factor in the middle and dont start me on the fact our 2006 2nd rd pick cant even make the bloody 45 on a Sunday.

Total disgrace and something has to be done about it and now. Everything starts from the front and the lack of pressure is making average LB's and DB's look even worse.

If the line cant get anywhere near the QB then you might as well just not turn up for games.

The last time I checked the Broncos were on course for the 4th all time completion rate for QB's against us this season. That's a joke.

We all know our safeties are total horse**** but it's no excuse that in 60 mins of play every week that not one player can get near the QB nor can a coach come up with a formation/play to get a blitzer free.

I really ****ing hate this defense right now.

Bronx33 · 12-14-2008, 04:55 PM

That's the least of slowiks problems i really don't think the players beleive in him or his system and frankly i don't either ( the man is no motivator)

tsiguy96 · 12-14-2008, 05:01 PM

why should they believe in it if it clearly doesnt work?

Popps · 12-14-2008, 05:02 PM

"3 sacks in 5 games? Is that bad?"

lex · 12-14-2008, 05:03 PM

Well, Champ likes Slowik. Thats all that matters.

CSU Husker · 12-14-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronx33

That's the least of slowiks problems i really don't think the players beleive in him or his system and frankly i don't either ( the man is no motivator)

True, the game is over and our defensive staff still hasnt come to the conclusion that we should cover their best WR.

ludo21 · 12-14-2008, 05:05 PM

Talent is a major issue and coaching of course...

Im not worried tho, if we can hit on a couple picks and once we fire or demote Slowik the D will turn around.

Bronx33 · 12-14-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludo21

Talent is a major issue and coaching of course...

Im not worried tho, if we can hit on a couple picks and once we fire or demote Slowik the D will turn around.

I don't want slowik anywhere near this team in any capacity.

fontaine · 12-14-2008, 05:14 PM

In no way am I defending Slow but it looks to me that the DL is selling out to stop the run and not worry about pass rush.

It's clear in who they line up. Engleberger/Ekuban get a lot of snaps and no coach in the league is going to get them to be pass rushers.

eddie mac · 12-14-2008, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

"3 sacks in 5 games? Is that bad?"

This weather I dunno if you're taking the piss or being serious. That works out at 10 sacks a season. So yes it's ****ing downright awful.

DenverBrit · 12-14-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac

Someone's head's gotta role for this.

Be it Slowik or the idiot D-Line coaches we have.

I can't recall the last time we actually got any decent pressure on a QB, that's how bad it is.

Elvis Dumervil, double-teamed all of last year cant beat anyone in one on one match-ups this season. Both Robertson and Thomas are a total non-factor in the middle and dont start me on the fact our 2006 2nd rd pick cant even make the bloody 45 on a Sunday.

Total disgrace and something has to be done about it and now. Everything starts from the front and the lack of pressure is making average LB's and DB's look even worse.

If the line cant get anywhere near the QB then you might as well just not turn up for games.

The last time I checked the Broncos were on course for the 4th all time completion rate for QB's against us this season. That's a joke.

We all know our safeties are total horse**** but it's no excuse that in 60 mins of play every week that not one player can get near the QB nor can a coach come up with a formation/play to get a blitzer free.

I really ****ing hate this defense right now.

Have you just noticed the lack of talent on the line? It's been this way for a few years now.
So what do you think must be done to fix the problem......other than find talent, which obviously won't happen this year?

orinjkrush · 12-14-2008, 05:40 PM

hopefully we come up with another amazing draft class.

FS, DL, MB, RB, DL, SS, DL, SB

Popps · 12-14-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac

This weather I dunno if you're taking the piss or being serious. That works out at 10 sacks a season. So yes it's ****ing downright awful.

Sweet Christ, of course I'm joking. Did everyone here take a handfull of idiot pills today? My god. The goofy pix of Engelberger wasn't a tell?

bpc · 12-14-2008, 05:56 PM

Above all else, we lack any sort of consistent playmaking ability. I think we have some good parts but we are lacking a dynamic presence on defense.

Br0nc0Buster · 12-14-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

"3 sacks in 5 games? Is that bad?"

Engleberger loves this kind of defense.

"Pass rush, what is pass rush?"

Popps · 12-14-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

Engleberger loves this kind of defense.

"Pass rush, what is pass rush?"

Well, to be fair... Engleberger has 3 sacks himself.

It just happens to be over a period of three years.

Br0nc0Buster · 12-14-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popps

Well, to be fair... Engleberger has 3 sacks himself.

It just happens to be over a period of three years.

well I recall one of his "sacks" was Philip Rivers basically running into him a yard behind the line of scrimmage.
But yeah his sack a year average isnt too bad for this defense I guess, Jarvis is jealous of that kind of production.

snowspot66 · 12-14-2008, 07:01 PM

The day Engleburger is cut we better have somebody on standby to check in on Popps. He might keel over from shear joy. I might too for that matter.

footstepsfrom#27 · 12-15-2008, 02:15 AM

Relax it's almost time to play spin the wheel for the next loser to play sock puppet DC to the Mastermind. The good news is we've probably seen the worst there is.

snowspot66 · 12-15-2008, 07:02 AM

He'll probably keep the ****er because everybody wants "continuity".

Kaylore · 12-15-2008, 07:06 AM

I think its funny that Popps keeps singling out Engleberger when there are four or five players playing worse than him and we have coordinator who has a track record for fewest sacks created, fewest turnovers in a season (we're right on schedule there) and giving up huge pass plays. This is a Slowik defense to a T and cutting Engleberger wouldn't change the production at all. In fact it would just make our rush defense worse than it is.

Garcia Bronco · 12-15-2008, 07:57 AM

John Engelberger is not in there to rush the passer. He's there to stop the run. In the one game he didn't play this year we got utterly destroyed in the run game.

Tombstone RJ · 12-15-2008, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac

Someone's head's gotta role for this.

Be it Slowik or the idiot D-Line coaches we have.

I can't recall the last time we actually got any decent pressure on a QB, that's how bad it is.

Elvis Dumervil, double-teamed all of last year cant beat anyone in one on one match-ups this season. Both Robertson and Thomas are a total non-factor in the middle and dont start me on the fact our 2006 2nd rd pick cant even make the bloody 45 on a Sunday.

Total disgrace and something has to be done about it and now. Everything starts from the front and the lack of pressure is making average LB's and DB's look even worse.

If the line cant get anywhere near the QB then you might as well just not turn up for games.

The last time I checked the Broncos were on course for the 4th all time completion rate for QB's against us this season. That's a joke.

We all know our safeties are total horse**** but it's no excuse that in 60 mins of play every week that not one player can get near the QB nor can a coach come up with a formation/play to get a blitzer free.

I really ****ing hate this defense right now.

and yet, the team is 2-1 in the last three games. go figure.

bpc · 12-15-2008, 08:01 AM

I think we have some players on defense that can be part of a great defense. We are just missing any sort of a playmaker in the front 7 or secondary right now. Get a couple impact guys and this unit could look a lot different.

rastaman · 12-15-2008, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orinjkrush

hopefully we come up with another amazing draft class.

FS, DL, MB, RB, DL, SS, DL, SB

Denver has 9 or 10 picks in the 2009 draft, and can go the FA route to address the needs, so we will see.

12-14-2008, 04:53 PM	#1
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	3 sacks in the last 5 games is a disgrace Someone's head's gotta role for this. Be it Slowik or the idiot D-Line coaches we have. I can't recall the last time we actually got any decent pressure on a QB, that's how bad it is. Elvis Dumervil, double-teamed all of last year cant beat anyone in one on one match-ups this season. Both Robertson and Thomas are a total non-factor in the middle and dont start me on the fact our 2006 2nd rd pick cant even make the bloody 45 on a Sunday. Total disgrace and something has to be done about it and now. Everything starts from the front and the lack of pressure is making average LB's and DB's look even worse. If the line cant get anywhere near the QB then you might as well just not turn up for games. The last time I checked the Broncos were on course for the 4th all time completion rate for QB's against us this season. That's a joke. We all know our safeties are total horse** but it's no excuse that in 60 mins of play every week that not one player can get near the QB nor can a coach come up with a formation/play to get a blitzer free. I really **ing hate this defense right now.

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12-14-2008, 04:55 PM	#2
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	That's the least of slowiks problems i really don't think the players beleive in him or his system and frankly i don't either ( the man is no motivator)

12-14-2008, 05:01 PM	#3
tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	why should they believe in it if it clearly doesnt work?

12-14-2008, 05:02 PM	#4
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	"3 sacks in 5 games? Is that bad?"

12-14-2008, 05:03 PM	#5
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Well, Champ likes Slowik. Thats all that matters.

12-14-2008, 05:05 PM	#7
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Talent is a major issue and coaching of course... Im not worried tho, if we can hit on a couple picks and once we fire or demote Slowik the D will turn around.

12-14-2008, 05:14 PM	#9
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,422	In no way am I defending Slow but it looks to me that the DL is selling out to stop the run and not worry about pass rush. It's clear in who they line up. Engleberger/Ekuban get a lot of snaps and no coach in the league is going to get them to be pass rushers.

12-14-2008, 05:40 PM	#12
orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,914 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	hopefully we come up with another amazing draft class. FS, DL, MB, RB, DL, SS, DL, SB

12-14-2008, 05:56 PM	#14
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Above all else, we lack any sort of consistent playmaking ability. I think we have some good parts but we are lacking a dynamic presence on defense.

12-14-2008, 07:01 PM	#18
snowspot66 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,642	The day Engleburger is cut we better have somebody on standby to check in on Popps. He might keel over from shear joy. I might too for that matter.

12-15-2008, 02:15 AM	#19
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Relax it's almost time to play spin the wheel for the next loser to play sock puppet DC to the Mastermind. The good news is we've probably seen the worst there is.

12-15-2008, 07:02 AM	#20
snowspot66 Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,642	He'll probably keep the ****er because everybody wants "continuity".

12-15-2008, 07:06 AM	#21
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,025 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I think its funny that Popps keeps singling out Engleberger when there are four or five players playing worse than him and we have coordinator who has a track record for fewest sacks created, fewest turnovers in a season (we're right on schedule there) and giving up huge pass plays. This is a Slowik defense to a T and cutting Engleberger wouldn't change the production at all. In fact it would just make our rush defense worse than it is.

12-15-2008, 07:57 AM	#22
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	John Engelberger is not in there to rush the passer. He's there to stop the run. In the one game he didn't play this year we got utterly destroyed in the run game.

12-15-2008, 08:01 AM	#24
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I think we have some players on defense that can be part of a great defense. We are just missing any sort of a playmaker in the front 7 or secondary right now. Get a couple impact guys and this unit could look a lot different.