Heisman Goes To Bradford - The Orange Mane

Rohirrim · 12-13-2008, 09:04 PM

There ya go, Sooners.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/sp...eisman.html?em

SouthStndJunkie · 12-13-2008, 09:10 PM

Tebow received the most 1st place votes and still came in third place in the voting.

Anaximines · 12-13-2008, 09:12 PM

go Bradford! Can't wait to see his statue up in Heisman Park.

theAPAOps5 · 12-13-2008, 09:15 PM

Undeserving just like his team doesn't deserve the National Championship game.

Jason in LA · 12-13-2008, 09:17 PM

So how do these QBs look as NFL prospects?

24champ · 12-13-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Undeserving just like his team doesn't deserve the National Championship game.

Mark my words....Urban and UF will light em up like a christmas tree.

ludo21 · 12-13-2008, 09:34 PM

I think the Championship could actually be a good game.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 09:51 PM

it used to be a nice award way back . i put it up there with the grammys these days. how many of the last ten heisman winners play in the nfl? tim couch was the last straw for me. i think the winner of "the best player in college football award" maybe should play a few downs in the nfl for me to respect it.

ludo21 · 12-13-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

it used to be a nice award way back . i put it up there with the grammys these days. how many of the last ten heisman winners play in the nfl? tim couch was the last straw for me. i think the winner of "the best player in college football award" maybe should play a few downs in the nfl for me to respect it.

That argument is bad...

Its "Best Player in COLLEGE Football", not "Best player who translates to the NFL" award...

I would agree that the award is going to wayyyy too many QB's these past 10 years. That is stupid.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 10:00 PM

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That argument is bad...

Its "Best Player in COLLEGE Football", not "Best player who translates to the NFL" award...

I would agree that the award is going to wayyyy too many QB's these past 10 years. That is stupid.

ill give you that. but the award has become "the best player on a BCS team"
back in the day a heisman trophy winner was actually supposed to be a decent nfl player. it used to actually be embarrissing for a heisman winner to fail in the nfl.

24champ · 12-13-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

ill give you that. but the award has become "the best player on a BCS team"
back in the day a heisman trophy winner was actually supposed to be a decent nfl player. it used to actually be embarrissing for a heisman winner to fail in the nfl.

I would compare the Heisman to the NFL's HOF.

TheChamp24 · 12-13-2008, 10:13 PM

Bradford is a very good NFL prospect, and was deserving of the Heisman. Guy lite up opposing defenses and led the #1 offense in NCAA HISTORY.

Man, so much hate for OU the past couple months from nearly everybody I've talked to.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 10:19 PM

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I would compare the Heisman to the NFL's HOF.

dont even get me started

Natedog24 · 12-13-2008, 10:27 PM

*yawn*

ludo21 · 12-13-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jth1331

Bradford is a very good NFL prospect, and was deserving of the Heisman. Guy lite up opposing defenses and led the #1 offense in NCAA HISTORY.

Man, so much hate for OU the past couple months from nearly everybody I've talked to.

Can it really be proven that this was the best offense in NCAA history??

The hate is because Texas beat them and then they represented the Big 12 South in the Big 12 'ship....

not right, not cool

s0phr0syne · 12-13-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jth1331

Bradford is a very good NFL prospect, and was deserving of the Heisman. Guy lite up opposing defenses and led the #1 offense in NCAA HISTORY.

Man, so much hate for OU the past couple months from nearly everybody I've talked to.

Every time I see someone post some OU-hate, I want to defend against it with solid, logical arguments, but at this point I'm pretty sure it'll fall on deaf ears.

Only way to shed the hate is to show up against FL and shut everyone up. I hope OU is up to task, otherwise it's just another OU Bowl bust.

SouthStndJunkie · 12-13-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason in LA

So how do these QBs look as NFL prospects?

Sam Bradford will be the most coveted draft prospect of the three whenever they do enter.

cabronco · 12-13-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Can it really be proven that this was the best offense in NCAA history??

The hate is because Texas beat them and then they represented the Big 12 South in the Big 12 'ship....

not right, not cool

Ya I can understand why Texas would be upset with it. When the computers do their computing and mix in Texas Tech. who was ranked right up there with OK. & Texas for awhile . Oklahoma blew Texas Tech. away 65 to 21 and it wasnt even that close. Where Texas only beat T.T. by 6. I think Texas defeating OK. by 10 points could of very well went the other way since Ok. lost there star receiver early in the game. I think Bradford is a good candidate and deserved heisman trophy winner.

s0phr0syne · 12-13-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cabronco

Ya I can understand why Texas would be upset with it. When the computers do their computing and mix in Texas Tech. who was ranked right up there with OK. & Texas for awhile . Oklahoma blew Texas Tech. away 65 to 21 and it wasnt even that close. Where Texas only [got beat by] T.T. by 6. I think Texas defeating OK. by 10 points could of very well went the other way since Ok. lost their linebacker early in the game. I think Bradford is a good candidate and deserved heisman trophy winner.

Fixed version.

SouthStndJunkie · 12-13-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TomServo

it used to be a nice award way back . i put it up there with the grammys these days. how many of the last ten heisman winners play in the nfl? tim couch was the last straw for me. i think the winner of "the best player in college football award" maybe should play a few downs in the nfl for me to respect it.

I disagree....if the Heisman ever became the award for the best NFL prospect, I would be disappointed.

The NFL should have absolutely zero to do with the award.

College prowess does not always translate to the next level....the best player in college football might not be great NFL material, but that does not mean they cannot dominate in college.

The NFL covets size and speed and sheer talent....in college a guy like Tim Tebow can be a great and gutsy leader without having a 1st round NFL arm. The college game has so many different offenses compared to the pro game. Some of the players from these offenses will not fit in the NFL. The Heisman Trophy is a college award, not an NFL award.

cabronco · 12-13-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

Fixed version.

Thanks it is kind of late & I'm tired. I know they lost their LB, but earlier in that game or maybe it was the week earlier where they lost one of their better receivers for a few games. He fractured his arm or elbow.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 11:12 PM

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The NFL should have absolutely zero to do with the award.

i go back to my post where i said it used to be the heisman trophy winner was actually expected to play in the NFL, even help or "save" a team. pretty damn sad when the "best player in college football" cant play a down in the next level.

s0phr0syne · 12-13-2008, 11:16 PM

Not saying I disagree, but why do YOU think that it's sad that the best college player doesn't translate to the NFL?

They are two totally different types of football.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 11:18 PM

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Not saying I disagree, but why do YOU think that it's sad that the best college player doesn't translate to the NFL?

They are two totally different types of football.

i guess i just remember the day when, you won the heisman but couldnt play pro it was...embarrassing.

TomServo · 12-13-2008, 11:20 PM

i guess the shame is gone.

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12-13-2008, 09:04 PM	#1
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	Heisman Goes To Bradford There ya go, Sooners. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/sp...eisman.html?em

12-13-2008, 09:10 PM	#2
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,237	Tebow received the most 1st place votes and still came in third place in the voting.

12-13-2008, 09:12 PM	#3
Anaximines Anaximines Anaximines Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 532 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	go Bradford! Can't wait to see his statue up in Heisman Park.

12-13-2008, 09:15 PM	#4
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Undeserving just like his team doesn't deserve the National Championship game.

12-13-2008, 09:17 PM	#5
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	So how do these QBs look as NFL prospects?

12-13-2008, 09:34 PM	#7
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,898 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	I think the Championship could actually be a good game.

12-13-2008, 09:51 PM	#8
TomServo Ring of Famer Dancing is Forbidden! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,013	it used to be a nice award way back . i put it up there with the grammys these days. how many of the last ten heisman winners play in the nfl? tim couch was the last straw for me. i think the winner of "the best player in college football award" maybe should play a few downs in the nfl for me to respect it.

12-13-2008, 10:13 PM	#12
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,874	Bradford is a very good NFL prospect, and was deserving of the Heisman. Guy lite up opposing defenses and led the #1 offense in NCAA HISTORY. Man, so much hate for OU the past couple months from nearly everybody I've talked to.

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s0phr0syne Symbiotic Absorb and Redirect Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,592 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Not saying I disagree, but why do YOU think that it's sad that the best college player doesn't translate to the NFL? They are two totally different types of football.

12-13-2008, 11:20 PM	#25
TomServo Ring of Famer Dancing is Forbidden! Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,013	i guess the shame is gone.