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Old 10-30-2008, 11:32 AM   #1
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What was your evolution in the president's horses you were hoping would get traction during this election?

Hate to say my final pick has been devolution of sorts – starting with my first pick, and moving down the line:

Tencreado: (yes, I know despised by most on the left) but at the time I felt the number one issue was illegal immigration, and although I think it is still in my top few issues, it is not #1.) He dropped out.

Huckabee: – when I didn’t know him well, but had heard several speeches, thought we needed a conservative who could actually string two sentences, and thought for a could weeks he might be my guy, but found he didn’t care much for LDS folks, and was a bit weak on immigration.

Fred Thompson: – liked what we seemed to be, but turned to be a dead fish with no passion.

Romney: I turned on to Romney, as I felt he was the most conservative of the three left, and knew the economy was unraveling, but he dropped out.

Ron Paul: At first I thought he was crazy – hated his stance on the war, but he is the only one who would actually cut deep enough to save the Country, but then he dropped out.

McCain: Until he picked Palin, I was not going to vote for him – if he would have gone after Liberman – I would have gone for a third party.

So, call me a flip-flopper – but don’t know if it has been indecisiveness as much as poor conservatives to choose from, and a changing economy. Anyone on the left who has changed horses as much as me? Just curious if Obama for some is the 1st pick, the second pick, or like in my case the 6th.
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Old 10-30-2008, 11:41 AM   #3
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If I can ask has it been Ron Paul the whole time, or none of the above?
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I've had 4 different horses in my life. I sold the last 2 about 6 months ago. Too expensive of a habit for no more then I used them.

I've pretty much been anti-everyone in this election to be honest.
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What was your evolution in the president's horses you were hoping would get traction during this election?

Hate to say my final pick has been devolution of sorts – starting with my first pick, and moving down the line:

Tencreado: (yes, I know despised by most on the left) but at the time I felt the number one issue was illegal immigration, and although I think it is still in my top few issues, it is not #1.) He dropped out.

Huckabee: – when I didn’t know him well, but had heard several speeches, thought we needed a conservative who could actually string two sentences, and thought for a could weeks he might be my guy, but found he didn’t care much for LDS folks, and was a bit weak on immigration.

Fred Thompson: – liked what we seemed to be, but turned to be a dead fish with no passion.

Romney: I turned on to Romney, as I felt he was the most conservative of the three left, and knew the economy was unraveling, but he dropped out.

Ron Paul: At first I thought he was crazy – hated his stance on the war, but he is the only one who would actually cut deep enough to save the Country, but then he dropped out.

McCain: Until he picked Palin, I was not going to vote for him – if he would have gone after Liberman – I would have gone for a third party.

So, call me a flip-flopper – but don’t know if it has been indecisiveness as much as poor conservatives to choose from, and a changing economy. Anyone on the left who has changed horses as much as me? Just curious if Obama for some is the 1st pick, the second pick, or like in my case the 6th.

I was backing Biden for President the whole election. People thinks he drones on forever. I think he knows his ****. I was thrilled that Obama picked Biden but I thought Hillary would have been the better choice politically. Now that it looks like he is going to win I'm glad Obama went the way he did.
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I supported Huckabee in the primaries. To me, Romney seems like an empty suit. He essentially mouths a conservative mantra without any original thought whatsoever. At least Huckabee has some reasoning behind his stands on issues. I actually considered voting for Obama just because I do like Joe Biden and really, really don't like Sarah Palin, but I just can't. I'll stick with McCain and pray he stays healthy.
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Old 10-30-2008, 12:04 PM   #10
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I supported Huckabee in the primaries. To me, Romney seems like an empty suit. He essentially mouths a conservative mantra without any original thought whatsoever. At least Huckabee has some reasoning behind his stands on issues. I actually considered voting for Obama just because I do like Joe Biden and really, really don't like Sarah Palin, but I just can't. I'll stick with McCain and pray he stays healthy.
I too had problems with Romney's slickness, plastic-like presentation...and although I am LDS, didnt care to have my faith bashed for a year.
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I'll stick with McCain and pray he stays healthy.
C'mon, give the man some credit. Even Vegas doesn't have him literally dropping dead in the next 5 days.
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Being that I'm not a partisan individual I was pulling for a horse in each primary, hoping for a "can't lose" kind of presidential battle. My political ideologies are probably closest to the libertarians, but not nearly enough for me to want to be a member, largely because the party as it is today mostly just wants fiscal liberties while I'm much more concerned with social liberties.

For democrat its always been Obama. He's intelligent and has a clear plan for the future of this country. He also is not a extreme left winger like Hillary is or someone who comes off as incredibly false like John Edwards always did to me. I liked a lot of Kucinich's ideas but he's way too damn far left as well.

For republican I was on the McCain bandwagon back in 2000, but he's been a very dark shadow of his former self for several years now. I'd prefer him over a corporate swindler (Romney) and a religious ideologue (Huckabee), but I'd have prefered Fred Thompson and I far and away prefered Ron Paul of all the GOP candidates.

If it was Obama v. Paul I'd have a tought choice. I think some of Paul's ideas are a little too extreme, but then that is why we have three branches of government.

I guess its fortunate for me that we got Obama v. McCain where I could clearly see just how much of a sellout con man McCain has let himeself become just to make it on a the ticket, makes my choice easy.

Hopefully the republican party can come up with some sort of compelling candidate for future elections. If Palin ever makes a serious bid I'd campaign hard for whomever her opposition is because she's not only a religious idealogue like Huckabee, she's also just not very bright on subjects like foreign affairs and economics. Unfortunately I think the GOP has a lot of growing pains to go through before they can remove the shackles of their christian extremist "base" and get back to true fiscal conservatism that the party is supposed to represent.
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Being that I'm not a partisan individual I was pulling for a horse in each primary, hoping for a "can't lose" kind of presidential battle. My political ideologies are probably closest to the libertarians, but not nearly enough for me to want to be a member, largely because the party as it is today mostly just wants fiscal liberties while I'm much more concerned with social liberties.

For democrat its always been Obama. He's intelligent and has a clear plan for the future of this country. He also is not a extreme left winger like Hillary is or someone who comes off as incredibly false like John Edwards always did to me. I liked a lot of Kucinich's ideas but he's way too damn far left as well.

For republican I was on the McCain bandwagon back in 2000, but he's been a very dark shadow of his former self for several years now. I'd prefer him over a corporate swindler (Romney) and a religious ideologue (Huckabee), but I'd have prefered Fred Thompson and I far and away prefered Ron Paul of all the GOP candidates.

If it was Obama v. Paul I'd have a tought choice. I think some of Paul's ideas are a little too extreme, but then that is why we have three branches of government.

I guess its fortunate for me that we got Obama v. McCain where I could clearly see just how much of a sellout con man McCain has let himeself become just to make it on a the ticket, makes my choice easy.

Hopefully the republican party can come up with some sort of compelling candidate for future elections. If Palin ever makes a serious bid I'd campaign hard for whomever her opposition is because she's not only a religious idealogue like Huckabee, she's also just not very bright on subjects like foreign affairs and economics. Unfortunately I think the GOP has a lot of growing pains to go through before they can remove the shackles of their christian extremist "base" and get back to true fiscal conservatism that the party is supposed to represent.
I was on the Hillary bandwagon because she laid out here ideas, but that might be what did her in.

Your right about Huckabee, he's like voting for a TV evangelist.

I've taken to Obama cause he has begun to lay out his actual ideas and they sound good.

Your dead on about the religious base, if the republicans stop pandering to them, they could do some damage in the next election. The problem is, I don't think a good candidate will ever get through the primary's, because the base is too far right right now. A lot of the centered right have gone Independent. So has the centered left like myself.
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What was your evolution in the president's horses you were hoping would get traction during this election?

Hate to say my final pick has been devolution of sorts – starting with my first pick, and moving down the line:

Tencreado: (yes, I know despised by most on the left) but at the time I felt the number one issue was illegal immigration, and although I think it is still in my top few issues, it is not #1.) He dropped out.

Huckabee: – when I didn’t know him well, but had heard several speeches, thought we needed a conservative who could actually string two sentences, and thought for a could weeks he might be my guy, but found he didn’t care much for LDS folks, and was a bit weak on immigration.

Fred Thompson: – liked what we seemed to be, but turned to be a dead fish with no passion.

Romney: I turned on to Romney, as I felt he was the most conservative of the three left, and knew the economy was unraveling, but he dropped out.

Ron Paul: At first I thought he was crazy – hated his stance on the war, but he is the only one who would actually cut deep enough to save the Country, but then he dropped out.

McCain: Until he picked Palin, I was not going to vote for him – if he would have gone after Liberman – I would have gone for a third party.

So, call me a flip-flopper – but don’t know if it has been indecisiveness as much as poor conservatives to choose from, and a changing economy. Anyone on the left who has changed horses as much as me? Just curious if Obama for some is the 1st pick, the second pick, or like in my case the 6th.
As far as I was concerned, Ron Paul was the only real republican. Everyone else is just a bunch of posers.

I figured if I was going to vote for a liberal, it would be a real one and somebody who didnt vote for the stupid war we are waging. I was going to write in Ron Paul on my mail in ballot, but there was no area to do that. So I ended up voting for Obama.

There is nothing conservative about our current group of republicans. Our 10 Trillion $ Debt Proves this.

These neocon nut jobs like to preach that they're for the little guy! Only up to the point where they'd have to pay for it, then they say F you. All of these jesus freak "conservatives" love to preach about god, but wasn't one of the key elements one could learn from the bible was to take care of your neighbor, and your brother. Be good people. Not "be a good person" until it takes money out of your wallets. No affordable health care for you, because it takes money out of my wallet!

The only difference between Democrats and Republicans, is that democrats actually try to pay for all their bull**** spending through taxes, and Republicans decide to let debt stack up, while we borrow money from the Chinese.

Pro War, Policing the world? That's conservative? I'm sorry but we don't have the MONEY to police the whole f'ing world, and quite frankly doing so pisses off a lot of people and burns a lot of bridges.

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As far as I was concerned, Ron Paul was the only real republican. Everyone else is just a bunch of posers.

I figured if I was going to vote for a liberal, it would be a real one and somebody who didnt vote for the stupid war we are waging. I was going to write in Ron Paul on my mail in ballot, but there was no area to do that. So I ended up voting for Obama.
I had thought that a lot of people might write in, but i always caution against that. Unless your candidate is on the ballot, your just helping the opposition win.
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Turned to Obama after Paul dropped out. I figured if we can't have Paul we can at least have an intelligent, eloquent, hopeful President who has the backing of countless experts.
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The first candidate I actually supported was Fred Thompson, but he turned out to be a lifeless candidate, as the thread starter pointed out. I also seriously looked at Tancredo and Romney. Now that McCain is the only candidate left on the Republican side, it's like pulling teeth for me to support this guy. Maybe I should just vote for Obama and hope he doesn't carry through with his promise of raising taxes on certain segments of the American population. After all, he is a politician and is prone to lie. I'm crossing my fingers...
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For me it's been Obama the whole way, although I did support Ron Paul for the Republican nomination.

I seriously can't understand how someone would describe themselves as a Libertarian and then get behind Fred Thompson. His policy is more neo-liberal (errr I guess we're calling them 'neocons') than anything else.

Of course the sentence: "Until he picked Palin, I was not going to vote for him" absolutely makes my head explode. I mean I get how picking a anti-intellectual, incurious, and altogether incapable person as your VP pick would make a candidate MORE attractive... but still.
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I was a Biden guy, though I knew he had no shot. Was thrilled he at least got on the ticket.
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