Ex-Raiders coach Kiffin files grievance. - The Orange Mane

24champ · 10-29-2008, 11:20 PM

By JOSH DUBOW, AP Sports Writer 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP)—Former Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin filed a grievance with the NFL on Wednesday to claim the lost salary he maintains he is still owed by the team.

Kiffin was fired late last month for cause because of what owner Al Davis described as acts of insubordination and lying by his second-year coach.

Kiffin was still owed about $2.6 million from the three-year contract that he signed in January 2007. But Davis has refused to pay, leading to the grievance. Commissioner Roger Goodell will ultimately rule on the grievance, but there was no date for a hearing scheduled.

Raiders executive John Herrera issued a statement to The Associated Press refuting Kiffin’s claims, saying “Mr. Kiffin was terminated for cause. The grievance is without merit.”

The statement says that Kiffin’s grievance “completely ignores the fact that Mr. Kiffin repeatedly made reckless statements that attacked players, assistant coaches and the owner of the team and were damaging to the Raiders organization.” The statement also alleges that Kiffin made false statements to the media that damaged the Raiders.

The Raiders said that Kiffin’s grievance did not address provisions in his contract that required him to avoid any conduct that would “would embarrass, discredit or disgrace” the Raiders, as well as an NFL resolution passed in April that required coaches to “avoid actions that undermine or damage the club’s reputation or operating success.”

Kiffin’s agent Gary Uberstine said he looked forward to having the case heard by Goodell.

“Although I am disappointed that the Raiders continue to perpetuate the spectacle they created by inappropriately trying their case in the media, we will continue to adhere to our policy not to comment on a matter which is the subject of a pending legal proceeding,” Uberstine said. “Needless to say, we are anxious to present our case to the commissioner under a system in which the truthfulness of statements must be proven to an impartial arbiter. We are as confident as ever that the commissioner will conclude that Coach Kiffin was not fired for ‘good cause.”’

At his news conference announcing Kiffin’s firing, Davis said the move was made because of criticisms Kiffin made of players like Javon Walker, coaches like defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, and the organization as a whole.

Davis also refuted claims Kiffin had made to the media saying that he had not communicated with the owner for weeks before his firing. Davis detailed a conversation between the two and a letter he had sent to Kiffin warning him to stop criticizing the organization.

Davis also refused to pay the remainder of Mike Shanahan’s salary when he fired him four games into the 1989 season. Shanahan won a grievance, but Davis has refused to pay him the approximately $300,000 that the Denver coach claims he’s owed.

Kiffin had a 5-15 record in just over one season with the Raiders, but Davis said his reasons for firing the coach were about his frequent public criticisms of the organization and some of its players even after he had been ordered to stop.

Kiffin was replaced by Tom Cable, who has lost two of his three games as interim head coach.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

Goobzilla · 10-29-2008, 11:35 PM

I hope Kiff gets the money and custody of the track suit on alternating weekends.

Atwater His Ass · 10-29-2008, 11:39 PM

So Kiffen's good for at least 1 SB win with someone now right?

Crushaholic · 10-29-2008, 11:48 PM

ALF is the coolest TV alien ever....HA!

Garcia Bronco · 10-30-2008, 05:26 AM

Kiffin is gonig to get nothing out of this. I watched Davis' conference. while I was embrassed for Davis and his claims, it looks like he's got the contract on his side. Why anyone would work for this guy is beyond me.

Beantown Bronco · 10-30-2008, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Kiffin is gonig to get nothing out of this. I watched Davis' conference. while I was embrassed for Davis and his claims, it looks like he's got the contract on his side. Why anyone would work for this guy is beyond me.

This is my impression as well. As long as Kiffin's contract includes the clauses that they explicitly mention above, there's no way Kiffin wins this one. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut for a few months and he'd be rolling in the "free" dough....but he just couldn't help himself. Don't get me wrong. His comments always brought a smile to my face. But they certainly hurt his cause right now.

Tombstone RJ · 10-30-2008, 12:28 PM

Let it go before a mediator. There's no such thing as an "open and shut case" in America. Hell, Kiff could win the grievance and still not get paid, but, he has to try.

Popps · 10-30-2008, 01:15 PM

Awesome.

Go Lane!

Garcia Bronco · 10-30-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Let it go before a mediator. There's no such thing as an "open and shut case" in America. Hell, Kiff could win the grievance and still not get paid, but, he has to try.

He could charge that Davis created a hostile work environment by writing Kiffin's resignation and putting it on Kiffin's desk during the summer. He needs the letter from this summer though.

BroncoBuff · 10-30-2008, 01:32 PM

The league should consider placing this franchise into some kind of recievership. Not just this ridiculous failure to pay Kiffin, but the musical chairs of coaches, the Tommy Kelly thing, Javon, Deangelo, and on and on.

I'll betcha ZERO teams would have matched the Kelly, Deangelo or Javon contracts, even without giving compensation to get the player. The contracts alone would've nixed these deals for all 31 other teams.

JCMElway · 10-30-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

So Kiffen's good for at least 1 SB win with someone now right?

If Detroit was smart they would hire Kiffen of Cowher as their next coach.

Bronx33 · 10-30-2008, 03:40 PM

God AL just excels at ******* himself and driving away any potential head coaches out there atleast be a honorable businessman and not a lowlife POS.

Abqbronco · 10-30-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

The league should consider placing this franchise into some kind of recievership. Not just this ridiculous failure to pay Kiffin, but the musical chairs of coaches, the Tommy Kelly thing, Javon, Deangelo, and on and on.

I'll betcha ZERO teams would have matched the Kelly, Deangelo or Javon contracts, even without giving compensation to get the player. The contracts alone would've nixed these deals for all 31 other teams.

Shhh!!! Long live Crazy Al

10-29-2008, 11:20 PM	#1
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,705 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Ex-Raiders coach Kiffin files grievance. By JOSH DUBOW, AP Sports Writer 2 hours, 59 minutes ago ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP)—Former Oakland Raiders coach Lane Kiffin filed a grievance with the NFL on Wednesday to claim the lost salary he maintains he is still owed by the team. Kiffin was fired late last month for cause because of what owner Al Davis described as acts of insubordination and lying by his second-year coach. Kiffin was still owed about $2.6 million from the three-year contract that he signed in January 2007. But Davis has refused to pay, leading to the grievance. Commissioner Roger Goodell will ultimately rule on the grievance, but there was no date for a hearing scheduled. Raiders executive John Herrera issued a statement to The Associated Press refuting Kiffin’s claims, saying “Mr. Kiffin was terminated for cause. The grievance is without merit.” The statement says that Kiffin’s grievance “completely ignores the fact that Mr. Kiffin repeatedly made reckless statements that attacked players, assistant coaches and the owner of the team and were damaging to the Raiders organization.” The statement also alleges that Kiffin made false statements to the media that damaged the Raiders. The Raiders said that Kiffin’s grievance did not address provisions in his contract that required him to avoid any conduct that would “would embarrass, discredit or disgrace” the Raiders, as well as an NFL resolution passed in April that required coaches to “avoid actions that undermine or damage the club’s reputation or operating success.” Kiffin’s agent Gary Uberstine said he looked forward to having the case heard by Goodell. “Although I am disappointed that the Raiders continue to perpetuate the spectacle they created by inappropriately trying their case in the media, we will continue to adhere to our policy not to comment on a matter which is the subject of a pending legal proceeding,” Uberstine said. “Needless to say, we are anxious to present our case to the commissioner under a system in which the truthfulness of statements must be proven to an impartial arbiter. We are as confident as ever that the commissioner will conclude that Coach Kiffin was not fired for ‘good cause.”’ At his news conference announcing Kiffin’s firing, Davis said the move was made because of criticisms Kiffin made of players like Javon Walker, coaches like defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, and the organization as a whole. Davis also refuted claims Kiffin had made to the media saying that he had not communicated with the owner for weeks before his firing. Davis detailed a conversation between the two and a letter he had sent to Kiffin warning him to stop criticizing the organization. Davis also refused to pay the remainder of Mike Shanahan’s salary when he fired him four games into the 1989 season. Shanahan won a grievance, but Davis has refused to pay him the approximately $300,000 that the Denver coach claims he’s owed. Kiffin had a 5-15 record in just over one season with the Raiders, but Davis said his reasons for firing the coach were about his frequent public criticisms of the organization and some of its players even after he had been ordered to stop. Kiffin was replaced by Tom Cable, who has lost two of his three games as interim head coach. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

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10-29-2008, 11:35 PM	#2
Goobzilla Lights Out B*h! BA-ZING!!** Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Wellington Posts: 6,530 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mitch Erickson	I hope Kiff gets the money and custody of the track suit on alternating weekends.

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Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,374 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	So Kiffen's good for at least 1 SB win with someone now right?

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Kiffin is gonig to get nothing out of this. I watched Davis' conference. while I was embrassed for Davis and his claims, it looks like he's got the contract on his side. Why anyone would work for this guy is beyond me.

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Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,527 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Let it go before a mediator. There's no such thing as an "open and shut case" in America. Hell, Kiff could win the grievance and still not get paid, but, he has to try.

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Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	Awesome. Go Lane!

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BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,470 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	The league should consider placing this franchise into some kind of recievership. Not just this ridiculous failure to pay Kiffin, but the musical chairs of coaches, the Tommy Kelly thing, Javon, Deangelo, and on and on. I'll betcha ZERO teams would have matched the Kelly, Deangelo or Javon contracts, even without giving compensation to get the player. The contracts alone would've nixed these deals for all 31 other teams.

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Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	God AL just excels at ******* himself and driving away any potential head coaches out there atleast be a honorable businessman and not a lowlife POS.