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Old 10-28-2008, 04:45 PM   #1
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Default Halloween at Obama’s Whitehouse, 2009.

A pack of costumed kids ring the doorbell at 1600 Ave., 2009. Obama smiles and reaches into each bag’s kid to grab half. The kiddies object, but the Messiah explains – “This will go to the less fortunate, and more worthy kids who wouldn’t get off their butts, but stayed at home to watch South Park.” They object “Its not fair that 10% should give more candy than everyone else combined!” Obama teaches the selfish, candy-clinging children: “But 95% will benefit from your anonymous sacrifice, it is patriotic.” A fat kid in the back mumbles, “But 40% dont trick or treat.” The secret service escort him away for re-education. The rest learn the lesson of trickle up poverty, leave their bags on the door step, and wait for their share of redistributed candy.
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The right believe people in the middle class deserve the money they earn less than the wealthiest do. That's what the argument boils down to.
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Still beats, the Republicans in this narrative, who would be the the teenagers out bag-snatching. Of course, they'd get too sick, and for a cure, demand more candy.

The whole 40% thing is ridiculous. Using that argument one might suggest that we the military only protect the 60% who pay taxes, that those 60% be the ones to use the interstates, the only ones who can vote and get passports.

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A pack of costumed kids ring the doorbell at 1600 Ave., 2009. Obama smiles and reaches into each bag’s kid to grab half. The kiddies object, but the Messiah explains – “This will go to the less fortunate, and more worthy kids who wouldn’t get off their butts, but stayed at home to watch South Park.” They object “Its not fair that 10% should give more candy than everyone else combined!” Obama teaches the selfish, candy-clinging children: “But 95% will benefit from your anonymous sacrifice, it is patriotic.” A fat kid in the back mumbles, “But 40% dont trick or treat.” The secret service escort him away for re-education. The rest learn the lesson of trickle up poverty, leave their bags on the door step, and wait for their share of redistributed candy.
What an idiotic analogy. Obama is giving a tax cut to 95% of PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES, not to people who aren't working. Learn to to at least actually understand something before you attempt to attack it.
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.. meanwhile, McCain straight up says he wants to greatly increase my taxes by taxing my employer co-paid health insurance benefits while at the saem time giving tax breaks to companies experiencing windfall profits.

**** McCain and his deceitful tax claims.
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:11 PM   #9
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What an idiotic analogy. Obama is giving a tax cut to 95% of PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES, not to people who aren't working. Learn to to at least actually understand something before you attempt to attack it.
And for the 40% of those who dont pay income tax in America, they will not get some type of check from Big Brother? -- I would really like to know...as he is the champ of the poor, that sounds so unfair....does he hate poor people?
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So Bob:

Why do you favor the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%?

Why do you favor the concentration of wealth in the hands of hedge funds and Fortune 500 companies?
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And for the 40% of those who dont pay income tax in America, they will not get some type of check from Big Brother? -- I would really like to know...as he is the champ of the poor, that sounds so unfair....does he hate poor people?
Stop it... you can't possibly be this retarded.
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And for the 40% of those who dont pay income tax in America, they will not get some type of check from Big Brother? -- I would really like to know...as he is the champ of the poor, that sounds so unfair....does he hate poor people?
This is all speculative noise. There's nothing to suggest anyone's getting hand outs. Absurd.
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So Bob:

Why do you favor the redistribution of wealth from the middle class to the top 1%?

Why do you favor the concentration of wealth in the hands of hedge funds and Fortune 500 companies?
In part because I see that only Japan has higher tax rates for businesses in the industrialized world -- when 40% of Americans pay no income tax at all they would be more inclined to want various goodies paid by others -- I dont think that a system so out of whack and demonizes those that earn the most money and the many small businesses that are the backbone of the country is the way to get out of the mess we are in. Also, I believe that as you tax businesses more many will leave overseas and will be less inclined to hire, which in turn will impact average folks.

It is simply not true that the rich dont pay their part -- they pay a higher percentage then the middle class -- and a higher percentage than the 40% who do not pay any income tax at all. Look at the states that tax the most, vs those like TX who keep state taxes low -- that draws business, jobs and money to those states, while other states loose their tax base and jobs.
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The great thing about posting on the Mane is that based on the fairness doctrine one could never make the claim that the left is not well represented...
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You've been drinking the RNC Kool-Aid.

American businesses pay the second lowest taxes in the world.
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Memo to Fox News & the GOP: America Has the Second-Lowest Business Taxes In the World
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Well, here’s a fact: Two thirds of profitable U.S. corporations pay no income taxes whatsoever. Think about that. Nothing. You can be forgiven for not knowing that, because even though it is obviously newsworthy, and just flat out insane, somehow it hasn’t made its way into discussions of the tax code in the corporate press. In fact, John McCain thinks our corporate tax rate is too high, and he wants to cut it. It hardly matters, I guess—any percentage of nothing is still nothing. The fact that the wealthiest entities on the planet are skating on their taxes while dishwashers have money extracted from their measly paychecks on a weekly basis would seem like a talking point tailor-made to slap all the new plumber fans out there into relative fiscal sobriety, but Obama hasn’t brought it up.

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In part because I see that only Japan has higher tax rates for businesses in the industrialized world -- when 40% of Americans pay no income tax at all they would be more inclined to want various goodies paid by others -- I dont think that a system so out of whack and demonizes those that earn the most money and the many small businesses that are the backbone of the country is the way to get out of the mess we are in. Also, I believe that as you tax businesses more many will leave overseas and will be less inclined to hire, which in turn will impact average folks.

It is simply not true that the rich dont pay their part -- they pay a higher percentage then the middle class -- and a higher percentage than the 40% who do not pay any income tax at all. Look at the states that tax the most, vs those like TX who keep state taxes low -- that draws business, jobs and money to those states, while other states loose their tax base and jobs.
It's a bogus myth that the rich are demonized by what they pay. Yes they are held to the highest percentage, but of that percentage they actually only pay 31% of it because of the loopholes. Those in the second lowest tax bracket pay 90% of what they owe. Cry me a ****ing river for "demonizing" the rich with some taxes.

And I wonder what TX is going to do now that their unemployment cases are rising and they are basically bankrupt in that area. I guess borrow from the fed.

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Can you imagine how Bob's head would explode if he knew what the tax rate on the top 5% was under Eisenhower and Nixon?
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It's a bogus myth that the rich are demonized by what they pay. Yes they are held to the highest percentage, but of that percentage they actually only pay 31% of it because of the loopholes. Those in the second lowest tax bracket pay 90% of what they owe. Cry me a ****ing river for "demonizing" the rich with some taxes.

And I wonder what TX is going to do now that their unemployment cases are rising and they are basically bankrupt in that area. I guess borrow from the fed.
If they do, they would have to get in line behind California.
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Well, here’s a fact: Two thirds of profitable U.S. corporations pay no income taxes whatsoever. Think about that. Nothing. You can be forgiven for not knowing that, because even though it is obviously newsworthy, and just flat out insane, somehow it hasn’t made its way into discussions of the tax code in the corporate press. In fact, John McCain thinks our corporate tax rate is too high, and he wants to cut it. It hardly matters, I guess—any percentage of nothing is still nothing. The fact that the wealthiest entities on the planet are skating on their taxes while dishwashers have money extracted from their measly paychecks on a weekly basis would seem like a talking point tailor-made to slap all the new plumber fans out there into relative fiscal sobriety, but Obama hasn’t brought it up.

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I can play that game as well -- care to hear from NewsMax? Love it when you get your crap directly from your butt -- or the post above www.buffalobeast.com/132/letsgetsocial.htm I hear that Code Pink has some great stats as well about how America is evil, and that we are kills many more innocent folks that bad guys. Try reading something like the WallStreet Journal.
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And for the 40% of those who dont pay income tax in America, they will not get some type of check from Big Brother? -- I would really like to know...as he is the champ of the poor, that sounds so unfair....does he hate poor people?
Ronald Reagan already took care of that. Or have you never heard
of something called the Earned Income Tax Credit. In a nutshell
it gives a rebate of several thousand dollars to people who owe
no income tax.
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That's interesting I didn't know that. Thanks for the link!
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